Legion was good. Judging by the new systems and the latest Q&A about design philosophy, this is gonna be fucking great

Legion was good. Judging by the new systems and the latest Q&A about design philosophy, this is gonna be fucking great.

WoW is finally back. Legion onwards is a new golden era.

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Fuck paying for Legion. When is it free?

>Legion was good
Is that so lads? I skipped it. Rate all expacs.

I'm not rating all xpacs because fuck you, but legion was alright.

Really fun while I was levelling my first char, artifacts were kinda a neat idea, AP levels are getting hilariously high, and dungeons are pretty cool.

Never raided outside of LFR because I'm not pugging that shit and I'm not making the game a goddamn job, so I quit because if you aren't raiding you're pretty much not supposed to play

World of Warcraft - 8
World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade - 6
World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King - 10
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm - 4
World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria - 5
World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor - 3
World of Warcraft: World of Warcraft: Legion - 5

Wait a minute... that art...

>original WoW
>expac

>wotlkfag

actually lmaoing @ u

WoW lost everything that made it good. It hasn't been good since ~WotLK.

I'm giving my rating of all the experiences for comparison.

September, but no one will be playing it

>MoP: WoW is back!
>WoD: WoW is back!
>Legion: WoW is back!

Wrath of the Lich King was when the community finally got their shit together enough to theorycraft best in slot items and stats. No more equipping random green plate armor with agility.

>Wrath of the Lich King was when the community finally got their shit together and threw itself down a diablo-esque hell of minmaxing and achievement whoring
fixed.

World of Warcraft - 9.5
World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade - 8.5
World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King - 7
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm - 4
World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria - 2
World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor - 3
World of Warcraft: World of Warcraft: Legion - 5

>he wasn't min/maxing since Vanilla WoW.

minmaxers were a niche community? lol.

...

Vanilla - 7
BC - 8
WotLK - 8
Cataclysm - 5
MoP - 7.5
WoD - 5.5 (too little content)
Legion - 6

I mean I'm not buying Legion when BFA is releasing soon. But if you have to buy Legion to play BFA thats gay.

>spacing
If I asked for Reddit's opinion I'd be on Reddit, faggot.

>Legion
>The "do one quest and come back next week" expansion
No thanks, Blizzard can suck a cold dick for timegating the fuck out of everything.

>"skill trees" from diablo 3
>dungeon difficulty system from diablo 3
>there are still templates in pvp
>there is still a prestige system in pvp
>scenarios brought back as "expeditions"

You mean WotLK is when people started determining how good people were based on their gearscore. It also started multiple dungeon difficulties, one of the things plaguing WoW today.

Mists was better the legion and bc though nigger

Vanilla 8
TBC 9
WotLK 7
Cata 5 (3 post nerf)
MoP 6
WoD 4
Legion 5

They want the nostalgiafags money. It's every time the same shit ´´guys, buy the new expansion, now the horde and the alliance fight more than ever´´

likely not but it's too early to tell
After draenor everyone was expecting legion to kill the game but it actually turned out pretty well, both for players and blizz
I don't think BFA is going to have nearly as big of an impact on the players

BC- Killed pvp and turned it into a meme
WotLK - Killed progression being based on skill and killed old raids being relevent
Cata - killed old world
MoP - Killed talents
WoD - killed my soul
Legion - Killed alts

I've been typing like this since I came here in high school 10ish years ago, faggot.

How BfA is changing WoW:

General:

>New class design philosophy that emphasizes bring the class, not the player (BC era design)
>Bringing back class buffs like Arcane Intellect and Battle Shout
>Bringing back more abilities to classes in general, at least 3-4 more for each class (DK's got Death's Advance back and a new ability that can copy an enemy buff and give it to teammates)
>RP servers will have zero CRZ and Sharding. Emerald Dream (US) will feel like an actual community.

PvE:

>Warfronts and Islands are two new additions to the PvE engame. Warfronts are a mix or rpg and rts mechanics. You're a hero leading troops, will feel like Old AV with tons of side objectives.
>Random Legendaries are completely gone, and Titanforging is being tuned down to not be so drastic in boost differences
>Leveling has already been improved, heirlooms, nerfed, and dungeons have been actually made somewhat challenging again, rather than a braindead experience

PvP:

>PvP Templates are gone and character customization is coming back, gear matters more rather than purely class balance and team composition
>PvP opt-in removes low levels getting ganked by faggots and invites the opportunity to design PvP-only world content for an area of a zone since PvErs will not be affected

Yeah I can't wait OP. Gonna be sick.

The thing I think MoP did best was the faction war, new lore and atmosphere.
They blew it out of the fucking park with Garrosh's character and atmosphere.
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The fact that WoW is still alive and kept in the mainstream proves its "back"

>10ish minutes ago
Fixed.

>wow is finally back

said literally every time a new expansion is about to land

It will never come close to the WOTLK numbers again, and a vast majority of older players still want nothing to do with new expansions.

That's not "back"

Vanilla 6/10
BC 8/10
WOTLK 10/10
Cata 5/10
MOP - Didnt play but looked like a solid 8/10
WOD - 2/10
Legion 7/10
BfA hype 10/10

Can someone give me a speedy synopsis on the zone changes in old azeroth?

Not talking about when your balls dropped, lad.

>xD

You can level anywhere. zones now scale like in legionExample, barrens is 15-60, blasted lands is 35-60, etc

>I give a fuck about some retard who misuses memearrows

that orc looks fucking terrifying

>new class design philosophy that emphasizes bring the class
no, its not. They still havent achieved classes having actual roles outside of M Blast Furnace (MC) and M Guldan (spellsteal/control demon). Their philosophy is to simply have buffs so bringing the 9th warlock vs 1st mage isnt a good idea. Everybody will still just be damage bots or healing bots.
>bringing back buffs
passive buffs, none spec based like old VE, not even castable so dispell/spellsteal in pvp wont interact with them
>bringing back more abilities to classes in general
meanwhile in reality Shadow Word death is a talent now
>RP servers will have zero crz and sharding
they already changed RP realm crz a long time ago. Doesnt stop people from forming groups to pull people cross realm

>warfronts will feel like old AV
except AV without pvp is fucking retarded boring. Its going to be trivial garbage since its in a queue and will have obscene rewards because they need to shill it
>Titanforging is being tuned down
still on trinkets, still a shit system
>leveling has been improved
little too late when everybody has an army of level capped alts to shit out gold

>PvP gear will matter more than team comp
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>PvP opt in
a terrible change, forcing everybody to play on PvE realms because of crybabies.

Youre retarded and shit at this game. Stop posting.

Who are you quoting?

The number of NA+EU active players was less than 2 million during Nighthold, it's either doing the same or worse than WoD in terms of players.

both look fucking badass. if you think about it, warcraft 1/2 footmen were fucking super powerful/skilled warriors that could go toe to toe with orcish grunts, something footmen from warcraft 3 and beyond couldn't do.

>he thinks this is what matters in MMOs
Neck yourself

>Legion was good.

the main reason i want BfA is warfronts and it's been said they wont always be active or something which makes me think it's gonna be some hitman elusive target server event bullshit which i don't look forward to

>It's the BATTLE FOR AZEROTH
>CLASSIC FUCKING WARCRAFT
>also it's the expansion where we finally admit we don't know how to balance the retarded scaling, flying, etc to make world PvP fun again so we're just removing it outright
>YEAH CLASSIC WARCRAFT

World of Warcraft - 10
World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade - 7
World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King - 4 worst exp by far
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm - 8 liked the plot
World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria - 8 pandas are so friggin cute
World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor - 9 man i spend 20000 hours building my base
World of Warcraft: World of Warcraft: Legion - 3 fuck DH

Vanilla 4/10 (said as a top 50 guild raider)
BC - 3/10
LK - 8/10
Cata - 7/10
MoP - 11/10
WoD - 3/10
Legion 4/10
BfA - Unlikely to break 6/10

If they don't fix the XP curve and stop being boost hungry jews, I probably won't bother. Leveling alts is all I care about now.

>mage has 3 dps spec
>warlock has 3 dps spec
>hunter has 3 dps spec
>druid has tank, melee dps with stealth, healer, and ranged dps

I'm a druid main, but this is bullshit.
Give hunters a tank spec, give warlocks a healing spec, and give mages a melee dps spec or something.

Why does it feel like Blizz had no idea what they want to do with the Horde nowadays and write the Alliance as generic superhero human squad, guest staring other races? Fuck, it might just be me because I'm a Horde Fangay for life, but the Horde is half group of Saturday morning cartoon villains and half group of misunderstood morons who let the first do whatever they want. Really, I just want Sylvanas and Nathanos to die already.

>LK 8/10
>Legion 4/10

now i know you're full of shit

>Descendants of the creations of the jobber that is Aggramar

vs

>Descendants of the creations of the combined Pantheon

Hmmm I wonder who will win

Because 2 factions bruv.
I'm sick of seeing undead and belves be represented by stuff that only feels relevant to the kalimdor races, same problem with nelves being represented by kingdoms stuff.

>Vanilla not a 10

Die in a fire scum

The only thing that could really get me interested in BfA is playable Naga. With allied races, they could have finally done it, but instead we're going to get fox lolis and elf recolors.

>Le Legion is gud
Why would you admit to having brain damage? Mythic+ is the worst idea they've ever had.

>rating cata higher than wotlk
whats wrong with you?

>You're a hero leading troops

when are they going to drop this fucking "everyone is the hero" shit?

Wow is nothing but a half baked game wrapped around a scam to milk people of their money

Vanilla - 10
TBC - 8
WotLK - 6
Cataclysm - 5
MoP - 2
WoD - 1
Legion - 3

Well it was either that or folks like you would blast through the content and then still bitch and moan about lack of content.

>Legion was good.
>RNG legendaries is good.
>RNG challenge mode dungeons is good.
>World quests are good.
>Even more nonexistent WPvP is good
>Copy/paste raids are good.
>Class homogenization is good.
>Order Halls are good.
>Zero mobility is good.
>Making leveling more of a slog is good.
>Illidan tardwanking is good.
And that's only half my list of legit facts.
Not even giving you a (You)

>Vanilla - 8
>TBC - 9
>Wrath - 7
>Cata - 6
>MOP - 8
>WoD - 3
>Legion - 6
Objective truth

they've done too much damage to the game to change it back to

>the defias are taking my grapes. get me 5 bundles of grapes!

type of quests.

>Legion onwards is a new golden era.
Sure is.
Best viewed at a comedic distance from my wallet.

>wotlk 10
>mop 5
sure senpai

I can't wait.
>TMW Velen comes back to his world's capital for the first time in ages.

>WoW is finally back
Except crossrealm tech kills any sense of community yet again
Except various raid difficulties including tourist mode destroys any sense of progression and adds artificiality into a game about immersion and character building
Except dungeon and raid finder yet again shits on the community aspect of MMOs
Yeah, WoW is definitely back. The wrathbabby tier WoW is back, as has been for 10 years now. Fuck you.

They somewhat did that in MoP, and it was comfy.
I miss Valley of the Four Winds.

MoP was great because Cata's Thrall circle jerk meant the player was a nameless soldier again.
It opens with you on the frontlines of a battle and helping your faction gain a foothold in an unfamiliar land.
It was adventrous
It was exciting
And then it was shit on to pieces by WoD's WE WUZ COMMANDAZ

Why did LF Draenei and VElves turn out so much better than Shiteborne and Tauren w/ Antlers?

Void Elf best elf.

either add a singleplayer mode or dont do that shit because it has no effect when you're becoming a champion of the horde or whatever the fuck and you look around and see 7 other retards doing the exact same thing

Hot damn, Void form is sexy, why can't we be liks this permanently like worgen can?

Could a SP WoW be good?

they should of done it like WAKFU did

> One person in charge as a hero with a group of "Companions"
> they rest contribute towards the effort as adventurers
> every couple of month the hero can be voted out or elected to stay

I mean it prob wouldn't of worked cause most wow players are trash but eh

>Leveling improved

No it isn't you delusional fuck it's still just as easy except the mobs take longer to die.

> Shitting on HMT

Nigga you gay

>theorycrafting started in wotlk

Oh how sad. The retard is flopping around in the streets. Someone really should help him :(

this
>recoloured belfs are better than HMT

Artifacts were a mistake.

I just wish there was way more customization options for the HMT. I don't see why they couldn't just stick Antlers and Paint as Barber Shop options on current Tauren once you meet the requirements to "Make one" Honestly, the same could be said for all the allied races.

Good.

>it'll be just like [pre-cata expansion]!
>it's going back to the [pre-cata expansion] model!
>we're going to get [thing from pre-cata expansion] back!

Maybe....... if a sign of progress is the regression to earlier states....... and something to celebrate..... then the earlier states were better..... and it never should have been changed to begin with.......

How is a pointless timesink good?

Hey a cover that harkens back to the good old Warcraft days of orcs vs humans.
>play as Horde
>It is led by an undead elf
OK, I'm done.

>Soy Elf

TBC > WotLK > Legion = Vanilla > MoP > Cata > WoD

>Wrath of the Lich King - 10

are there any fun specs left in this game?

Sylvannas as warchief is fucking stupid but the alliance is no better, their leader is pic related but 17 years old now

TBC - 7
WotLK - 8
Cata - 8
MoP - Didn't play live, I enjoy it now though. 8
WoD - 4
Legion - 6

looks like utter shit

>PvP opt-in removes low levels getting ganked by faggots and invites the opportunity to design PvP-only world content for an area of a zone since PvErs will not be affected
So world PVP is finally dead and their plan to contain all PVP to small, heavily regulated instances which has been attempted since BC is finally complete.

>muh honorable dindus
ahahaha

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