Moon Presence should honestly have been an unwinnable fight unless you kill his body in the chalice dungeons first. Make the gaze of the moon attack an allant styled level drain except that it automatically drains all of your levels and sends you back to the start of the game when the boss reaches 50% hp or something.
Him being a pushover kind of made him seem like a worthless, threathless, anticlimactic nonentity like true Allant but I dont think his design or place in the lore fits that at all
>being forced to go through the Chalice Dungeons just to fight the true final boss Maybe if they were actually good, but they can fuck off in their current state.
Jordan Green
You can fight him in the chalice dungeons? Never seen him down there.
Alexander Lee
he's only in hacked chalice dungeons, basically cut content.
Ethan Cruz
>forcing players to go through the chalice dungeons
That would have honestly reduced Bloodborne from a strong 8/10 to a 5/10.
Jason Lewis
Cut content, he's not the only thing cut, there's a lot that's been recovered
Isaiah Parker
How is that "forcing" you to do anything. Moon Presence is already a secret boss that you have to collect items for
Tyler Butler
This, chalices are great bonus content but would have made for poor core content
Carter Bailey
It was replaced by the finalized version obviously because its moveset was shit. It had two flail attacks with bed of chaos hitboxes and one float and drop attack that does AoE. Its not cut, its more like it was just shit and they made a better one. Have you beaten that thing in the CD? Doesn't look serviceable to be final boss and is a hollowed King Vendrick repeat.
Zullie must be pissed right now because Vaati plagiarized their find and dubbed the "Cut Content from Bloodborne" the youtube video, pulling in half a million views from youtube retards. Never seen such a blatant desperate attempt to plagiarize from him. And yet Sup Forums still wont learn and will probably help him reign in the free money from the hard work of Sup Forums once Dark Souls 1 HD comes out or when Shadows Die Twice hits. He's like a gay Australian tumor stuck to Fromsoft after bandwagoning as Dark Souls 2 came out. I wish Google's censorship algorithm would do justice for once and remove him from peoples search feeds.
Grayson Edwards
Are you genuinely retarded? Its cut content and its blatantly unfinished, youre an actual downie that has absolutely no idea about what youre drooling about
Angel Butler
Prove it you nigger. I beat him in the CD through zullies codes. Hitboxes are fucked. His name is Moon Presence. The final boss is also called Moon Presence. The final boss is an actual boss and not just a bunch of unanimated tentacles and a flat bottom.
Lucas Moore
LOL AYY LMAO
Joshua Myers
Are you genuinely this fucking stupid? Are you ACTUALLY retarded enough to think that they modeled and rigged a boss and then removed him "because the hitboxes were shit"? Shut the fuck up you fucking drooling retard, they created the boss and stopped working on it halfway through either because it didnt fit into the game anymore or because it was outright replaced by the final form, but its blatantly obvious from all of the cut files that moon presence was going to have at least 3 different forms, 1 of them being unfinished and left into the files and another one never implemented beyond having a rough 3D model (the ice version)
not implausible that it was intended to appear in cainhurst and that the area was supposed to be a longer segment due to how abrupt the crown of illusions=annalises throne room is
John Martin
You're making a fallacy in that you want for there to be cut content, so therefore it has to be cut content. Ignoring the fact that the moon presence is still the final boss of the base game. Are you some sort of moron in that you think companies only make one version of a fight and old discarded spares are therefore cuts? I can name 48 bosses from Shadow of the Colossus, stated by the game's creator who envisioned 64, and beta versions of some of the finalized 16 bosses were datamined from the PS2 disc. That shit is in the internet and youtube too. Doesn't mean that they were cut from the final game. The final game had the finalized versions. Where it was decided that there would only be 16.
Is it so much of an impossibility that maybe they created a beta version and then a final one? The great one beast is also an obvious beta version of the Watchdog in the CDs. It has invisible range fire attacks.
And you're hiding your retardation under the guise that by calling the one with the argument that over and over obscenities you will somehow become right when all you have is circumstantial evidence and no verifiable proof of anything from fromsoft themselves.
Final boss is moon presence. Is it not? Then eat shit you fucking retard nigger.
Brody Myers
>Doesn't mean that they were cut from the final game Well, but they were.
Liam Hernandez
How fucking genuinely retarded are you? It is the definition of cut content, I literally never have said that it was intended to be in the final game nor that it was cut for reasons like that, hence why I even said " either because it didnt fit into the game anymore or because it was outright replaced by the final form". Youre the only retard here who was stupid enough to imply that they designed the original fight as if they would be completely oblivious to the end result and then decided "durr it accidentally has a shitty moveset and hitboxes". I cant even comprehend just how retarded do you have to be to say something like that
>nd you're hiding your retardation under the guise that by calling the one with the argument that over and over obscenities you will somehow become right when all you have is circumstantial evidence and no verifiable proof of anything from fromsoft themselves.
You have no fucking "argument", youre genuinely retarded and Ive been enlightening you with how the industry actually operates, especially ones as experienced as fromsoft and japan studio. They were not fucking fumbling around designing bosses and then cutting them because it turned out they couldnt conceive of an interesting moveset for it
>Final boss is moon presence. Is it not? Then eat shit you fucking retard nigger.
Where did I claim otherwise fucking mongrel? Try actually reading my posts
Connor White
But Defiled Amygdala is the true final boss
William Reyes
You're the retarded one friendo, developers remove subpar content from their games all the time. Or at least content they perceive to be subpar anyways. Moon Presence was redesigned to be less of a clusterfuck, it's that simple.
Oliver Wood
Can I just TL;DR? I'm saying that what we got was infinitely better than the one in Zullie's codes. I mean they showed them to us. And this is how I see it now.
If you want to waste your time here's more words. Earlier on I would have agreed with you. But the cut version just doesn't play well with Bloodborne's mechanics. Tentacle hitboxes are wonky, like Bed of Chaos, and once you get behind it you just spam attack and it cannot do a thing until it flies up and AoEs. The AoE is just so that it can face you, then it repeats the tentacle attack that has crazy Bed of Chaos hitboxes again. So then you run behind it and attack over again. Would you have wanted BB to be known for having a Bed of Chaos fight as the last boss.
You see? If it were like the finalized MP with a plethora of attacks and patterns then I would have continued to believe in what you do now. Its just like how Dark Souls fags say undead King Jareel was cut content although New Londo is a very complete area all things considered with comparison to Lost Izalith which is undoubtedly broken. Have a nice day.
Owen Walker
The boss's moveset is tied to its design though, they probably thought it would be less of a headache to just redesign the boss from the ground-up rather than try to salvage a failed concept.
Jeremiah Ortiz
Yes, which is one of the possibilities that Ive already mentioned, Its the actual definition of cut content instead of some boogeyman fantasy that everyone seems to whine about or imply that Ive even referred to. Its unlikely that It was ever designed to be the actual final "boss" of the game although it has literally been named "Inherit the nightmare, final form" which means that moon presence was most likely going to have multiple appearances through the game.
Although, now that everyone is claiming that it was only cut due to artistic reasons, I can drop the bombshell that work on it was actually briefly picked up but dropped again before the goty edition. The fight behaves more like a normal boss in the physical game of the year edition and has the "moon presence" placeholder name. From Software was most likely briefly working on getting some of the unfinished content restored and stopped only when the disks were already being printed, hence why it has slightly more advanced features in the newer disk
Carter Clark
>I can drop the bombshell that work on it was actually briefly picked up but dropped again before the goty edition. Where is your sauce?
This post is all over the place. Mental gymnastics out the ass. You were sperging like a retard trying to claim there was cut content then now there isn't. I've been saying all this time that the one in the finalized game was better. So if you weren't claiming it was cut from the final game then why in the fuck are you even chimping out at me?
What are we supposed to do in this thread? Just say "yes" and "wow"? Fuck off.
Jose Cruz
Are you literally retarded?
>Mental gymnastics out the ass. You were sperging like a retard trying to claim there was cut content
It fucking is literal cut content you retarded piece of shit, and I specifically said that I dont necessarily imply that it was cut for time or money constraints which is clearly the only type of "cut content" that a brainless mongrel like you understands. Go kill yourself
>I've been saying all this time that the one in the finalized game was better.
Arguing with yourself then you fucking piece of shit, the only thing Ive been laughing at you for is your adolescent and naive at best statement of durr it was cut because it was shit, no you fucking drooling autist, it was shit because it was blatantly unfinished with invisible attacks, missing textures and being barely above other cut files that are just laying around in the files of any other game
Its a literal fact you fucking retard, the disc version of the goty edition doesnt have the boss trying to attack you through the foggate and has an actual boss name. The only logical explanation is that they were making changes to the fight and only decided to give up again when the goty discs were already in production with the updated code
