If games are art why aren't they in a museum?

If games are art why aren't they in a museum?

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anything is art as long as its made to be art m8.

But there actually are games in a museum

My dick is a piece of art but always stay inside of your sister pussy

this

One of the Smithsonians has a couple of games like Pong and asteroids.

>It's art cause they it's supposed to be art

It also contains a space suit...

>calling me an idiot when you can't even proof read your nine word sentence

Wondering what is art became a pointless thing ever since 1917 when Marcel Duchamp managed to have some urinals exposed in the MoMA.

Disagree with me? Get fucked kiddo

*disappears in the shadows*

>He fell for the modern art meme

youtube.com/watch?v=5ykZwBzdVnM

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_museums

BTFO

>the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.
Anything that is made to be art is art m8.

>any paintings not in a museum aren't art

really twists my melon, man...

Enjoy your postmodern art.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Center_for_the_History_of_Electronic_Games

Thanks!

I don't enjoy post modern art, it's shit, but it's still art.

OP is an absolute failure, as usual.

Dwarf fortress has a generated world that is in a museum, an art museum no less

Something being art doesn't mean it's good art

>It's still art
No, it's a urinal.

There is video games in a museum.
Pong and all that are definitely in at least one museum.

>Sup Forums art threads

Please stop this

And what is this?

If the artist created it (or used it) for its "beauty" or "emotional power" than its art. Could be a literal piece of shit and still be art.

Art. Because it is the application of a skill in pursuit of beauty.

>Definition of art
>1: skill acquired by experience, study, or observation
>2: a branch of learning:
>3:an occupation requiring knowledge or skill
>4:he conscious use of skill and creative imagination especially in the production of aesthetic objects
>5: a skillful plan
>6: decorative or illustrative elements in printed matter

He created nothing. He changed the name of a literal pisspot for shits and giggles because he was a postmodernist who thinks nothing means anything and beauty doesn't exist.

>one of Duchamp's first American works
>signed "R. Mutt"

Art is when a person, having experienced an emotion, intentionally transmits it to someone else. Moving a character on a screen is not art. If the game makes you feel because of the story, then the story is art, but not the game itself. An environment in a game can be art, but not the game itself. A model in a game can be art, but not the game itself. Video games are not inherently art.

I played Flywrench at the New Museum of Contemporary Art in NYC.
only good exhibit there.

Wrong, it is a canvas, some paint and a wooden frame. Nice try though.

>Could be a literal piece of shit and still be art.

Speaking of which.

>1917
>Post-modern

Drawing of an ugly woman. Whats the reason the Mona Lisa is so popular? Doesnt feel like it can hold an inch to something like the Oath if the Horatii

So he was making a statement? an emotionally powerful statement?

It's Dadaism but it led to post modernism.

No it isn't, it's a piece of art that draws attention from every corner of the Earth and will do so for the rest of time because it is skillfully produced, irreplaceable, and beautiful.

>he was a postmodernist
>Sup Forums education

Does someone have the screencap of that guy who hates the term artist because he made a kick ass dragon statue and it got put next to some shitty clay figure of a guy sucking himself off?

>shitty novel stops being a novel

What "emotionally powerful" statement do you pull from a urinal? Every time you go to piss do you marvel at your toilet and tear up? Or is it because a """famous person""" points at a urinal that it becomes powerful. The Mona Lisa doesn't need DaVinci to stand next to it and "contextualize" it for you

>authorial intent
>Relevant to art
Oh boy

I mixed post modernism and Dadaism so sue me. It's the same pseudo intellectual trash.

>What "emotionally powerful" statement do you pull from a urinal?
You answered your own question there buddy
>he was a postmodernist who thinks nothing means anything and beauty doesn't exist.

daily reminder that postmodernism is beaten to death horse at this point and soon to be replaced by metamodernist narrative
which means that vague symbols won't sell anything anymore

>relying on a dictionary to define art
Are you being serious right now?

Yep sorry bud. Art is naught without an artist.

>The thoughts of the artist somehow transpose themselves onto the urinal

You have to define it somehow.

The only pseudo-intellectual here is you. For someone so critical of post-modernism and Dada you seem to know very little about either. None of the influential post-modern thinkers had even been born yet when Fountain was made.

If music is art why isn't it in a museum?
If literature is art why isn't it in a museum?
If movies are art why aren't they in a museum?

Yes, are you literally retarded?

they are in museums you ignorant retard. You couldn't do one google search?

If artists make so much art how come all of them aren't in a museum?

>The only pseudo intellectual here is you
>t. I'll spend hours discussing the intellectual merits behind putting a toilet in a museum
I addressed the mistake you autist so sorry

If you hang a painting in a video game museum does it become a video game?

National Video Game Museum in Frisco, Texas

Okay, I hope you'll enjoy my new game Emotional Experience. I can't program, make art, write music, animate, write scripts, and don't know what a game engine is. But it does indeed have a DVD with an exe file on it. Buy now for the low low price of $59.99 :^)

So what if I read a book or something and I experience an emotion that the author didn't intend? Where did it come from? How was it transmitted? What happened to the emotion the author intended to transmit? You can't actually directly put an emotion in a work for the audience to retrieve. Our experiences are necessarily mediated, derivative.

I am not fucking arguing whether its good art or not you absolute fucking retard.

On second thought I suppose anti-intellectual might be more appropriate to you.

Do you want greenlight equivalent in all aspects of life?

post art

Because they can't be bought and sold for money laundering schemes.

>If you don't think toilets are art you're anti intellectualism
It isn't art. See

>what is ACMI
Literally a museum with video games

What about that definition do you suppose excludes a video game?

It doesn't exclude a video game. Games are art because they're an amalgam of skills applied in the pursuit of something greater. Games aren't art because the """artist""" said so.

>the pursuit of something greater
That's not what it said.

:(T)he conscious use of skill and creative imagination especially in the production of aesthetic objects
ie greater than the sum of the parts

And what ass did user pull that definition from?

merriam-webster.com/dictionary/art

Games aren't particularly ripe for money laundering.

>ie greater than the sum of the parts
No.

"museums"
"art"

Not an argument
This guy gets it

>nothing means anything and beauty doesn't exist.
That's a correct line of thinking. The world would be better off if everyone got into metaphysics instead of being a fucking art conniseur.

>Not an argument
i.e. flawless reasoning. Thanks!

Is the Toilet not an work of art in Symbolism?

...

you can't look at them and pretend you're an intellectual

>If books are art why aren't they in a museum?

No, because symbolism needs to emerge from the art itself rather than be something the artist explains to you. Same reason real filmmakers try not to explain their films and hacks can never shut up about muh symbolism.

Because they are in a library.

So is HITLER

>skillfully produced
Making a urinal takes skill
>irreplaceable
Every shit I take is irreplaceable, each of them is one-of-a-kind and unique, making them impossible to replace
>beautiful
Define what makes something "beautiful" without giving some trog answer like "something that look good" or "me like it".

To be fair, books aren't art, generally. The stories they contain are.

I would say bringing a toilet to an art exhibition easily symbolises nothing means anything and beauty doesn't exist.

>discussion about art on Sup Forums

Most Museums and Galleries house static work like sculptures and paintings. I haven't seen much Music, Film or Video Games in one. Have you?

Art professor here, in my professional opinion, I can confirm that OP is in fact a faggot

>mutt
who?

I remember that, good stuff.

This is not a pipe.

>Making a urinal takes skill
He didn't make the urinal though. That's the issue. The artist produced nothing and demonstrated no skill.
>Every shit I take is irreplaceable, each of them is one-of-a-kind and unique, making them impossible to replace
But unless you have them in jars in your basement, it's not something that has value in its individuality. Every Bernini sculpture or DaVinci painting has value separate from the author or other works.
>Define what makes something "beautiful" without giving some trog answer like "something that look good" or "me like it".
Well there are studies that talk about how humans find symmetry more aestheticly pleasing and things like color contrast or shading styles. But if you truly think beauty doesn't exist are all women equally beautiful? Is Glacier National Park, Montana equally as beautiful as the slums of New Delhi? It's difficult to quantify yes, but even if you speak differently you know deep down somethings stride closer to "beauty" than others. It exists.