The MvC:I of Fire Emblem games

The MvC:I of Fire Emblem games.

What did OP mean by this?

Just an excuse to have YET ANOTHER FUCKING CONQUEST THREAD

>implying Aqua ever gets to be happy, let alone alive.

Both games were disappointments but the biggest difference people were actually looking forward to Fates while Infinite was a dumpster fire the entire time.

but people play fates

good god was the localization bad

mvc:i has the best gameplay? why isn't it popular in that case, gameplay is like 99% of what matters in a fighting game

>implying conquest has good gameplay
Try playing a game from before the DS era LOL

Polished shit is still shit.

yeah this game wasn't that good especially compared to its predecessor (UMVC3, Awakening)

Alright name a game with better gameplay then. Name a game that has each difficulty scale feel like a new experience, still remain challenging while being virtually fair. Name a game where enemies felt as interesting as they were in Conquest with the fixed skills they had and the roles of tank, healer, and attacker where valued more. Name a game where a lot of the maps felt distinct with each other.

I've played all of them and Conquest is the best. Please expose yourself by saying Genealogy had better gameplay.

Not him but they weren't interesting in Conquest either

>NAME A GAME WITH ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE IN CONQUEST OH YOU CAN'T I GUESS THEY'RE ALL SHIT
I don't care how much the game gets bloated up. Thracia 776, Binding Blade, and Path of Radiance are all better. Go have fun in an empty field fighting nothing but kitsune.

Genealogy had better gameplay you fuckwit, it also blows Conquest's story right out the water and makes it its bitch.

lmao

>implying you've played Tharcia
>Binding Blade
>PoR

>path of radiance
loooooolll

How were those things I said not interesting?

All of those things are what made Conquest. I'm looking for games that had mechanics or whatever the hell they did that would possibly make them better.

don't bother, bitchboi probably thinks rolling over the game with one or two good units is the pinnacle of gameplay

shit thread, post cute corrins

I liked Conquest, but it's incredibly overrated.
New Mystery is the best FE.

Yes I have, all three.

They're good because they're relatively simple with well thought out maps. I like Fire Emblem, not Spreadsheet/Waifu Simulator.

So I should love Xander+Corrin Emblem.

It'd be nice if IS weren't complete faggots and actually patched their games with balance corrections.

I don't know why you're so insisted on wanting simple gameplay and what do you mean by speadsheet/waifu simulator? Are you the same Nigger that thought Conquest was just waifu shit but proceed to get BTFO by it?

Also
>Corrin and Xander soloing it
>When they take like 10-20 magic damage at average
>inb4 Camilla when she's weak to bows

Do it. Royal Emblem is so broken, you can 0% LTC Lunatic.

>enjoyed playing fates once
>enjoyed multiple playthroughs of awakening
>tried playing fates again, got sick of it
I'm not sure why I do, I just do

it takes a shitload more resources to make xander and corrin reach that point than sigurd and aless soloing maps

>I'm looking for games that had mechanics or whatever the hell they did that would possibly make them better.
Like usable mages or roster balance in general?

Leo, Elise, Corrin, Ophelia and Nina can function as useful mages and Conquest had good unit balance.

Same desu
I loved CQ and even BR on my first run, but I found them unplayable a second time.
I can't play Awakening anymore either though.

Conquest is the canon one, right?

mages are perfectly serviceable and tomes are still the best weapon type in the game, retard

You enjoy brainless grinding over actual strategy.

I'm in the same boat. I know that CQ has a lot better gameplay, but it's just such a slog at times.

There's literally no reason to ever make Corrin a mage, and making Nina a mage is idiotic when she can use the Shining Bow instead.

>Conquest had good unit balance
You had to scrape for archers though.

conquest can be stressful because you have to actually think

>what do you mean by speadsheet/waifu simulator?
What the fuck do you think I mean, you odious nigger? Half the time spent with the game is spent mulling about with spreadsheets to determine who and when to promote into what, what pairings to make, all sorts of unnecessary retarded shit. The other half is fapping over your shit cow tit waifu because you have nothing else to do while slaughtering enemies in an empty field.

>brings up Genealogy out of nowhere
What the actual fuck? Where did I ever say Genealogy was good?

>Conquest has good unit balance
>who is Benny, the Awakening trio, and Servant 2

why not make corrin a mage. tomes are busted as fuck.

>shining bow meme
can't critical. can't proc skills. it's just a crutch for a utility class to actually deal damage.

Since facing the same set up of freeze/entrap staves, counter bosses and lunge ninjas every chapter after like 15 isn't fun

It's sad how true this is honestly
>do lunatic+ classic run
>frederick emblem for a bit
>unlock gateway and just farm until units are actually able to survive one strike
>try to play tacticlly
>game throws utter and complete bullshit at you
awakening is so bad but playing dragon quest as a kid apparently made me like this shit so i'm stuck with it

oh noooo I have to check enemy skills and inventory

Nigga Corrin can use the levin sword and the shining bow is a magic weapon. There you go you have more magic users, not everyone needs to use tomes.

You can literally spend zero time in waifu shit and still bea the game just fine and god forbid the game to require you manage resources. And you did not play the game if you think the maps are empty open fields.

How are those not fun? What you don't like strategizing? And ninjas do not have lunge, stop bullshiting.

lmao, you don't have BB or Tharcia. I don't know what you're trying to prove on an anonymous image board.

Yeah good thing lances and daggers aren't common at all, especially on Conquest

OH WAIT A MINUTE

Mages aren't the same as classes that can use magic, idiot. Actual mages are shit in Conquest, Ophelia only manages to be decent because she's so strong.

Sure I've played both. What's your next defense going to be, brainlet?

Yeah, not like a good 60%+ of the enemies after midgame have WTA. And Corrin's res growth even with a boon is only a shitty 35%, so they can't even duel with other mages.

Those are still magic users and Leo and Elise can still function as decent tome users. I don't know why you're complaining about magic when magic weapons beside tomes work as well, ergo filling the magic variety.

primary enemies who use lances and daggers in conquest are anti-mage units in the first place, retard

>using Elise for combat ever

>I don't know how to position my tanks in front after my attackers attack in player phase.

>that magic growth
>in a game with Nyx and Odin, the king and queen of incorrect and bad growths as a mage

>fails to live up to its predecessor
>too many old characters from the last game
>good gameplay
>shit characters
>retarded story

But there's one part incorrect here.
Conquest has a good soundtrack.

Bow as a weapon type is far more useful than any tome in Fates and Shining Bow has much higher mt than any other (usable) tome. Inability to crit or proc skills is an acceptable downside.

corrin with a sword would still be at WTD and lacking 1-2 range on top of hitting def instead of res, what's your point you stupid nigger

Why the fuck does it matter that they're intended to be anti-magic you fucking idiot? It doesn't change the fact that there are a shitload of those enemies in the game.

>if you don't make Corrin a tome user that means you kept him as a class that can ONLY use swords!!!!
Dumbass.

shining bow is a fucking meme, a forged thunder tome is far more valuable. what exactly are you hitting with a shining bow. ninja and peg knights?

corrin either goes sword or tome, weapon rank gains are too slow to invest in multiple weapon types and other characters want the arms scrolls more

Holy shit, does that make Azura and Charlotte great combat units?

>melee units fight at the same range magic units fight in

there are also a shitload of other units that get melted by magic, you are not fighting ninjas and sky knights the whole game stupid. they're not even that common and you have other units who can make short work of them.

Why the fuck wouldn't you use the bow on units it's good on? Not to mention that the units who'll most likely be using it, like Nina and Anna, generally have res high enough to beat enemy mages. It's a great weapon and the downsides are negligible.

>he doesn't run Master Ninja Corrin
t. shitter

it's a niche weapon and Nina's combat stats aren't great in the first place. also why would you use shining bow on mages you retard

because Conquest has such a great selection of daggers, am I right

>this thread
Conquestshitters don't even fight with fans of other games anymore, they're just fighting themselves instead.

>what are Adventurers
Either way, you should never be using Adventurer

Probably because Conquest is the only "hard" game they have ever played.

as opposed to fags who get mad when they're challenged and call the game shit

>pebble
I rest my case.

Or because this is a thread specifically about Conquest.

Yeah, it makes FE threads fucking unbearable. Talk about this nu-FE shit for the 15th time today! Who's your favorite cowtit waifu? How much do you hate the other games? Fuck off GBAbabbies, you aren't welcome here. Nostalgiafags, get out! Awakening and waifufags killed FE! Btw I want Mommy Camilla's milkies!

I don't see anything in the OP dictating this is CQ only, Fatesnigger.

>dlc
>awful anyway unless you're seriously autistic enough to grind forever to forge it up
you never had a case

The ones complaining are the minority, similar to how Camilla is so fucking popular despite having a huge hate cult.

>using DLC

>Difficulty is defined by units constantly having 60-80% hit rates
If that's the challenge of Conquest then nobody is missing anything by passing on it.

If you think this trash heap of a thread is any better than those, you're just as bad.

>free DLC that presents an actual challenge that scales with your level

Why is everyone in this fanbase so god damned obnoxious?
It's like I don't go one thread without seeing people stir up shit. Everyone is guilty. Elibefags, grandpas, Ikefags, and whatever term you want to use for Awakening/Fates shitters because I refuse to use the term "nu-FE".

>picture of conquest
>text describing conquest with an analogy to another game in a different series, which makes no sense at all if it's about the series as a whole

>not enjoying having your characters have 50 different debuffs on them on the one game that doesn't have the restore staff
It's like you hate fun. I have some spreadsheets you should look at. In all fairness, it takes a really high IQ to understand FE Conquest.

Everybody feels entitled, to put it simply.

Make sure you're not in the wtd. Lunatic amplifies the enemy's wta by maxing out their weapon ranks ergo they have a much stronger wta than on normal or hard mode. Also attack stance offers better hit rate bonuses than guard stance.

negative chain is only in the last chapters of a difficulty you've probably never played

>It's comparing itself to a hated half assed entry into a loved series.
>Makes absolutely no sense as an OP if it isn't trying to make a discussion about the claim.

Why are people bringing up unit viability in CQ ass if it's better in any other game
There's like 15 viable units in FE6 because of HM bonuses

people parroting shit about things they have no real clue about

At least Fates actually sold despite its' controversy. I'm just mad they hogged half the roster in Fire Emblem Warriors and force you to grind History Mode just to get Lyn.

Literally the only unviable units in CQ are Nyx, Odin and Kana and even then the former two of them can still do things early game. The rest of the units can still perform decently throughout the game.

Hush. Every older game is a masterpiece of balance where all units are equally good.

Benny is obviously going to be trash if you care about your turn count but for those of us who didn't bench Oswin, Gilliam, Kellam, et al, he's just fine
Severa is good
Odin and Laslow have the interesting gimmick of being trash but giving you seriously good units if you can keep them off the bench long enough to get their dicks wet

Conquest has an absolutely gargantuan middle tier of units that aren't either overpowered or garbage and that you can swap into your team depending upon your personal taste, unlike a lot of FEs where you're pushed to do something because the units that aren't that something are garbage

Conquest is very deterministic for a difficult FE game; dodgetanking and crit abuse are both basically impossible and you have to actually think rather than luck your way through things

Not even Fatesfags are happy with FEW. Nobody fucking asked for Sakura.

My Nyx actually turned out okay, especially since a forged thunder tome helps her HR.

>fails to live up to its predecessor

What did Awakening do right? No seriously.

>Get to Scarlet on chapter 13
>She flies over and attacks Kamui for 9 damage, no follow up, have 29 health so can survive even a crit
>With a steel lance, she crits her for 54 damage because of death blow giving her 20% for free
Do bosses have a hidden x6 critical passive that they didn't tell anybody about? Because I put the game down there and am letting it rest for the next two weeks.

I love Camilla

projecting much? Whatever Hoshido has better girls than that purple bovine anyway.