Who was in the wrong here?

Who was in the wrong here?

Whenever somebody makes the claim "It's no masterpiece", you can dismiss it as complete bullshit.

Nobody is wrong when it comes to opinions

Lmao thanks for reminding me about that faggot, just unsubscribed. Shit reviewer and shit taste in games

Joseph your content is garbage. kys

>This guy needed 2 hours to express his opinion
Ridiculous. I skimmed through it and he could easily condense his points and make this 40 minutes.

>needing 2 hours to prove your point

Joseph Anderson’s review isn’t in the wrong

His attitude towards his own reviewed compared to everybody else, aka, his Fucking ego, is the problem

This arguement just has him running in circles

the guy tends to say a game is shit because of things he doesn't like, not thing that are bad.

his botw video is exactly the same.

Give it Delfino Island DLC and maybe a playable peach mode since she has all her different outfits and her own cap, then its a masterpiece.

>people pay for the privilege of shilling his videos on Sup Forums and leddit

I thought it was fun, but I thought it was not as good as either Galaxy or Sunshine or 64. A very large number of the moons are really easy to get, it’s like you just walk around and they fall into your pocket. New Donk City was great.

Isnt he the footfag furry? He is wrong by default.

Why is everyone hating on Joe here? The game is entirely overrated and he's completely correct on everything he says. He never said he hated the game and it's not bad, but a 97 is fucking ridiculous. People hand out perfect scores like they're pennies nowadays

Make it 4

Nah, then he would be rushing through without proper explanation.
20 minutes should be enough tho.

Someone post it

>who is in the wrong here?
>113 people
Or
>1 random youtuber

I think you know the answer user.

You called?

So now critics aren't paid?

>implying any youtuber does videos for free

Even sunshine is better than odyssee
Modern nintendo fans have garbage taste.

holy fuck

are you expecting us to make our own opinions?

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>97/100 score
>video claims it's no masterpiece
>lel, who's in the wrong

If you know basic math you should know the answer.

Both.

>caring about literal who's opinion
>caring about sheep's opinion
>caring about japanese trash

is this a common thing?
i dont notice

its an average user. Even if half of those 113 people were paid it wouldn't be at 97.

>caring about japanese trash
Two bombs weren't enough, eradicate nips and save glorious American gaming.

Everyone that takes game journalists and E celebs seriously

SURE I WILL LISTEN TO 2 HOURS OF AN ATTENTION WHORE.

New Donk city felt like the only level where they said "yeah this is a platformer" the rest of the levels are boring when it comes to traversing them
Way too many freebie moons
Dual button inputs when there is a free trigger
12 broodal fights
I think everyone can agree that whether you liked the game or not it's very casual

He's not wrong, it's not a masterpiece. It's a fine game though and it doesn't need 2 hours of criticism to explain why it's not a perfect game. He's got an extreme lack of conciseness in all his videos.

Some of his criticisms are dumb too, like no shit you spend time hearing the jingle when you get a moon, it's celebration for doing the thing the game wants you to do the most. Do you bitch about the victory screen in a final fantasy? That shit builds up if you play a game for several tens of hours.

I was absolutely sick of platformers but I gave Odyssey a whirl and even got 100% completion, so it did something right.

>critiques M:O filler
>video has 1 hour and 30 mins of filler

Was it intentional?

Odyssey is to Mario what BotW is to Zelda. The only real issue is that Odyssey is too small in scale. It doesn't leave enough of an impact and is over too quickly.

>it's very casual
So it's a typical Mario game, what are you people throwing this nonstop shitfest over?

>refuse to play the game properly then lambaste it for being too easy
Son of Hamster, no doubt.

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>he deleted dunky's comment calling the review shit

I got it on the first try

>mfw he sperged out about watching a 3 second moon animation
He must hate Mario 64 since they force you out of the level after every star

It is a bit bloated with filler content and redundant moons left and right, and it could use some more focus. But fucking hell, needing 2 hours talking while full of yourself to explain these points that you can grt across in 20 minutes while opening your video with 'DUDE LE EPIK DARK SOULS COMPARISON LMAO' along with Undertale music to top it off is not how you do it, people

S E E T H I N G

No no no Mario 64 is perfection all Mario games should do it that way Banjo-Kazooie sucks for letting you stay in after getting Jiggies

He also complains about not being able to get every moon before moving on, not like that's a perfectly legitimate game design decision that was also in Mario 64 or anything.

From what I recall, he said he was okay with that because it doesn't happen as often and the level is usually different somehow to fit the objective.

He also didn't like getting kicked back to the start of a kingdom after getting the one or two triple moons after a boss fight when the kingdom changes somehow.

>tfw shills pay you for the privilege of shilling for you

It’s amazing how one person simply expressing their opinion makes people so mad.

a-am I seething

BotW is too shallow in scale and concept. Having to fill the map with shrines and seeds does not make for a compelling open world

>the level is usually different somehow to fit the objective
Isn't this very rarely the case? It feels like Odyssey levels changed more than 64.

It's more incredible how many times one faggot can post their shitty opinion on Sup Forums in a single day.

they're right about then nintendo part

I honestly think that most critics are really bad at writing and not being totoally sincere. Reading their reviews it sounds less like they are expressing their opinion and more like they are just towing the party line.

End of the day it's this.

Shallow though it may be, it's still massive. You spend more time in each area so those areas stay with you longer. It also had two packs of DLC that had people coming back.

Instead of having DLC like BotW where they add a new kingdom which is JUST a bunch of difficult platforming challenges, and another that adds a new moon cube so you can explore all those kingdoms a third time, they add a do-it-yourself kit with balloons.

I swear Mattthew metowhatever is the only watchable "video game essay" review guy, even then his videos are pushing it when they are longer than minutes

But we need ammo for ou debates. Critic reviews are good arguments for a game’s superiority

30 minutes fuck me

>Reading their reviews it sounds less like they are expressing their opinion
That's what I like about yahtzee. Sure, his opinion is fucking SHIT most of the time, but at least he's willing to just straight up go "This is my opinion, that's it. Fuck off if you don't like it." He doesn't try to be professional and unbiased, just gives what he thinks of the game. I wish more critics would follow that example, it would make it easier to find ones that you agree with their taste with mostly, so you can be like "X tends to like games I like, and he likes GAME Y. I should try GAME Y."

Americans haven't made a good game since 2007.
Japs haven't made a good game since 2018

If a reviewer is trying to objective, he is just parroting the dominant subjectivity and doesn’t even realize it. Emotion and personal response clarifies whereas a commitment to being objective prevents us from looking at games beyond a surface level

How can your 3d perspective be so fucking bad, holy shit

I will say, you can break it up a little, and give SOME "objective" statements in your review. For example, I don't like DmC, but I can accept and point out that for all it's (Many) flaws, the actual ACT of controlling your character feels REALLY good. Pressing a button and getting a response is fast and fluid and feels great. The gameplay is just fucking hampered by the awful enemy design, the color coded gimmicks, and the abysmal weapon variety and style meter that gives SSS for doing fuckall.

Who cares. It's kids game.

There's no filler, he's just providing a ton of evidence with in-game footage si that Nintendogs can't. laim he cherry picked moments.

It's really something when people can't refute the points beought up and their only complaint is "the video shows too much footage of the game".

It's what he said, a fun game for kids, a fun first Mario game to introduce to a kid, but terrible for anyone familiar with games or the Mario franchise.

Has hamsterson ever been right?

This

He could have made his argument in less time if he wasn't a failed writer.

you could have written that post with fewer words too

>look at all my opinions, guys, PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!
An intelligent person can make their point in only a few minutes.

He has shorter videos and longer videos, have you ever considered that maybe it was long because he wanted it to be?

>make a 2 hour long shitpost and try ti disguise it as a 2 deep 4 you analysis

i honestly feel sorry for anyone that listened to him prattle on for 2 hours and then fail to use spatial awareness and walk in a complete circle.

I appreciate showing all of his supporting evidence when picking the game apart, but fuck me he really needed to organize his points better. He also could've chopped a ton of footage when showing how repetitive the moons are: just show me one moon type and tell me the number of them in the game.

I also think 100%ing Odyssey is a huge mistake for everybody. Moons are laid out to cast a wide net, just like korok seeds. You shouldn't make yourself suffer through collecting all of them. There's no fucking point.

Did Odyssey really upset him so much he needed to spend two hours whining about it?

The game needed more fun jungle gyms like New Donk City.

Adults playing game made for children

If everyone lived by this philosophy Sup Forums wouldn't exist.

As far as I know, he has a patreon, people pay him monthly to talk about games in what thry perceive to be an in-depth manner. He's not putting out 6 minute videos like Kinda Funny or stuff like that.

I disagree with the fact the Odyssey video could have been shorter. If he had pointed Odyssey's problems in 10 minutes or so, even 20 minutes, people here would CERTAINLY say he's talking out of his ass. He covered every weakness or potential criticism with his 2 hour video, he first published a timelapse of him gathering EVERY SINGLE MOON in his second channel then provided at least 5 examples of every single point he mentioned in his main video, which only makes the length criticism more funny, because people can't refute the rest.

Wrong.

It's all his personal opinion, so why does it need refuting in the first place? The game was designed around having easy to get moons and more difficult moons, it's not supposed to be like 64 or Sunshine and Galaxy.

it's quite obviously joseph whose entire argument hinges around everyone playing the game like he did
no shit it's tedious if you try and 100% a collectathon

Aren't all Mario games post Mario Bros 2 for kids though (beyond extra worlds / levels)?

>Not using the camera to turn

Some are more suited to be played by anyone than others. Some ramp up difficulty in the latter half. Odyssey keeps pumping braindead content in its later kingdoms, though.

They are when they're being contrarian for clicks

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>a game that's like 64 and sunshine is easy
wow

This game was made for toddlers dude.. just staph!

This is absolutely wrong.

He literally went through every moon so as to make his arguments airtight. True, there should be an abridged version for those who don't need all that, but he's not simply being longwinded.

A 2 hour review from a literal nobody critizing minor aspects of a game like a fucking retard coompared to the avarge opinion of 113 critics.

Everybody should have realized how fucking desperate he was to find something negative if he said how long it takes for the game to show that you found a fucking moon.

He loved botw you moron. But of course it has problems. Imo all the korok seeds could've come without the cutscene and item acquisition message, and just that would make the game 2x as good, make it 4x if you could streamline the shrines similarly.

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