Literally murders children

>literally murders children
>gets away with it
Why was this allowed?

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Because hes the best character in the game.

He is protecting his race

>made the wrong choice
>shunned forever and loses his wife for being a child killer
>community literally gets by without him and doesn’t want him back now that the wall is in place anyways
>forced to beat off in an eerie hallway forever till the harbinger or savior comes
If you call that “making it” sure

who cares Undertale is shit

shit game

>community literally gets by without him and doesn’t want him back now that the wall is in place anyways
This is wrong though. Sometimes someone else steps in to take over, but most of the time its implied its much worse and Asgore is still beloved by literally everyone but Toriel who is shit anyways desu.
People who hate him try and push that everyone else in the game does as well, but the truth is that he's still universally loved in the game universe.

He planned on killing seven to save hundreds, possibly thousands.

I really hate how even in the perfect ending his wife tells him to stay the fuck away.

>shunned forever
By the end basically nobody cares what he did. Even Toriel cools down on him.

He didn't get away with it.

buzzword ,the post.

People that haven't had a relationship can't under tan that simply because you haven't experienced what it feels being betrayed on your beliefs and being ignored for your own causes, ignoring the relationship altogether to press on on your own beliefs.

It hurts, and forgiving someone like that, on matters that are morally detestable to you is not easy.

Also, the ending left it open on their status, since Asgore is still close to her, working as a gardener in the school Toriel works. She didn't really cut him off form her life, and at most, she tolerates his presence.

>The wrong choice
>Gets shunned
It literally was the best choice (for them, not humans) and every of his subjects love him except that hummiefucker goat Toriel.

Yeah but, ponder this: what if it was the humans who were really the monsters?

Really makes you think

I always admired that honestly. It's one of the progressive messages it got right IMO: not every relationship was meant to last, and there are some things that couples will just never forgive each other for.

When was it stated that the humans he skewered were children?

Its not, but its a thing that has been chosen as canon by the fandom despite it not actually being so.
See Sans and his kiddo stuff and literally everything to do with Chara

They were probably all wh*te so it's all good.

They were problay all black.

>Toriel lets 6 other humans die and spares you because she likes you
>Asgore murders children, and Undyne looks up to him in spite of this and always tries to murder you regardless of the justification
>Alphys does all sorts of fucked up experimentation and gets away with it
Why was everyone so awful? Literally the only good monster was Papyrus, he tries to spare you no matter what, even if you murder him he forgives you.

Asgore also doesn't mind if you kill him and will even smile when you do so. Also he'll straight up kill himself for Frisk during certain endings.

>nearly at the end of your journey
>monlet who hasn't lifted a finger to help starts talking about how he's going to judge you
>can't interrupt or just walk right past him mid-speech

>missing the literal point of the game this hard

>Autistic retard
>a good character

That's why genocide run is the way to go. Filthy monster deserve it.

The gay robot unironically does nothing wrong though

>The gay robot unironically does nothing wrong though
Mettaton is legit morally the worst of the main cast

Just because they weren’t perfect doesn’t mean they’re awful. Papyrus is literally fucking Jesus, anybody would look bad compared to him.

atleast he isn't alphys
he also has the best music

How?

He did one of the worst morably reprehensible thing possible in Toriel's eyes, it's already more than good enough that she talk to him again

He didn't actually kill any of those kids. He just waited for unfortunate accidents. Which might be worse depending on what your morality is

Everything he does is for himself
>ditches his family
>betrays his friend
>planned to kill a child in order to escape the underground and be a star among the humans while ditching his people purely for his own selfish reasons
>his ending is by far the worst since he sets up a secret police that is implied to be killing people that disagree with him

mettaton only wanted to be a star
everyone else wanted to genocide the humans excluding papyrus

The gay robot tries to murder you for ratings and attention, so yeah, he was pretty awful too

Literally the only monsters that deserve to be spared are Papyrus, the monster kid and that guy who worked at the burger shop

Asgore is literally the best character in the whole game and he's treated like shit both in-game and by the autistic Undertale community.

His ending literally involves him becoming a dictator

This.
If you put attention you will notice the "grave flowers" and the past humans weapons scattered all over the game, Asgore only took the corpses and the souls, but he didn't killed anyone.

Wrong on both accounts actually. The only people who still hate him are the hardcore Toriel fans.

Toby giving him a bunch of cute post game content chilled the fandom out. Most of the big fan stuff still coming out is fairly positive towards him and he's still more popular than Alphys who is the actual most hated character to the point that people are always splitting her and Undyne up to ship the fish with Frisk, Papyrus or the robot

Toriel explicitly calls him out on not having the balls to do it himself. It's almost like these people didn't pay attention to the story.
This is what happens when you don't play games and just watch them on YouTube.

Innocent tier
>Papyrus - Basically perfect
>Monster Kid - Literal child
>Asriel - He's just a fucking kid
Necessary tier
>Asgore - Prevented monsters from getting slaughtered by humans
Shithead tier
>Toriel - Wet blanket cunt that hides and mopes like a useless asshole and doesn't even answer her phone
>Sans - Lazy fucking asshole that doesn't help
>Undyne - Tries to kill you because fishdyke
>Mettaton - Tries to kill you for ratings and is a huge faggot
>Flowey - Is Flowey
Please fucking die tier
>Alphys - Experiments on monsters and turns them into unthinking screaming hellbeasts then hides them in her nazi lab instead of owning up to her mistakes and GETS AWAY WITH IT

Monsters want to kill humans because of Asriel getting killed by one, yet everyone's okay with Dr. Mengele Dino turning their family members into giant blobs of tortured flesh?

>Alphys literally gets away with everything and gets her dream husbando and dream waifu AT THE SAME TIME
>Meanwhile Asriel is still stuck as a flower
Its not fair

You could ask the same of that carpet munching lizard

she got away with more

Well, not exactly.
You only need one (1) human soul to cross the barrier.
He could have crossed it and peacefully collected six other souls (They dont have to be absorbed if you want to break the barrier) or even murdered said six if he were feeling violent but instead he pussied out and did nothing.
Toriel took issue with that since it was the literally the worst possible fucking choice for everyone.

>Its not, but its a thing that has been chosen as canon by the fandom despite it not actually being so.
You literally find all of their gear over the course of the game and the coffins you find at the end are all child sized, unless one of them was a fucking dwarf, it's safe to say they were kids.

Papyrus is literally the only character in the game that can stop his attacks instantly as well as mitigate the damage they deal.
He literally cannot kill you.

I think it's mentioned that when the kids died, other monsters took the souls to asgore.
One death in particular was a complete accident, he tripped and fell in Lava.
But it was probably flowey, people always forget he was dicking around in the underground for quite a while before frisk dropped in.

>A bunch of autistic shut-ins detest the character that reminds them the most of themselves.
Credit where credit is due, Toby called that shot beautifully.

>Papyrus is literally the only character in the game that can stop his attacks instantly as well as mitigate the damage they deal.
Wrong actually, Asgore does the same thing in his fight. Its literally impossible for him to kill you unless you run out of food to heal.

Nope, it's confirmed that Asgore directly met with the humans. If you look at his lost soul during the pacifist route it says
>You stare deep into the eyes of the Lost Soul. He remembers the gaze of humans past.
Also. Undyne says "no human has ever made it past Asgore"

>Tries to kill pacifist run frisk who has performed numerous great deeds in his kingdom and become beloved by nearly every monster
>Forces a pacifist to have to commit violence to move forward in the game
>Allows flowey to absorb all the human souls

He’s a retard. Even if he had reached 7 souls by killing Frisk, nobody else would have thought the cost was worth it.

Could easily be talking about Chara since he directly mentions that Frisk reminds him of them.
But he wants Frisk to kill him and will even kill himself for them and his people
Get over it
He's literally dead by that point

Wrong.

>Could easily be talking about Chara since he directly mentions that Frisk reminds him of them.
But tt said "humanS past", not "a human"

>asgore crosses the border
>gets spotted on the way back from a cemetery
>now in even more deep shit
lol!

He lost his wife

Character, user. Chara doesn't even have one.
I love the implantation these people have that souls are just apparently hanging out around cemeteries or where they died all day despite the fact that the 6 we see in the game all fuck off right away once their free.

>He literally wants to force a pacifist to commit murder

So you’re saying he has the same moral mission as The Joker, and that’s supposed to make him a good person?

Maybe he saw the corpses.

>So you’re saying he has the same moral mission as The Joker, and that’s supposed to make him a good person?
No, he's depressed and suicidal to the point he's happy to die and will literally kill himself on screen. Did you even play the game?

>Chara doesn't have a chara-

So he can kill you.

Yes, but that wasn't what you said. Asgore can stop his attacks and his last attack will always reduce your HP to 1.

Toriel on the other hand...

t. would marry a serial killer

>Toby giving him a bunch of cute post game content chilled the fandom out.

What content?

what was so bad about the monsters staying underground anyway

they all seemed pretty happy and accepting of one another, they wouldn't get on well at all on the surface

Q&A has him joking around with Alphys and Undyne about memes and the alarm clock preview has a story about him hiking with Alphys and Undyne as well as a story that is almost for sure him talking that directly confirms that he's the Santa of the Underground

Their standard of living could improve, given freedom.

Yeah that's another weird thing, the game acts like the Underground is a horrible place and they NEED to leave but it seems like everyone is happy enough.

>Q&A

What and where is that?

>Alarm Clock app
It's kinda pathetic it takes this long.

Why is murdering children worse than murdering adult people?

Because they can't defend themselves.

>They’re standard of living might improve after destroying the barrier between them and humans

Lol

Children can defend themselves and are oblivious to the ambiguous moral decisions of adults.

Adults have a fighting chance at least, and understand when the person trying to kill you its doing it for some ulterior reason or lack thereof.

>One child can murder the entire species single handily
>Can't defend
Ok

unfortunate accidents with him swinging his trident with them on the way, yeah

Except if you actually go through with the genocide route the game heavily implies that you aren't even human and you'll go on to kill all of mankind too

t. Psychopath

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It turns out being forced to live underground for your entire life sucks. Multiple people in the game talk about how Asgore's promise is the only reason they bother to even try anymore.

he's a good antagonist for making such clearly cut mistakes even he sees it himself, his own cowardice being the only thing from making him back down

You can still murder literally everyone you meet aside from a random enemy and be A-okay though.
Point is that humans vastly outpower monsters

>Defending yourself from monsters that want to kill you is consider inhuman
ok

Wow, this is terrible and lazy.

They would be totally wrecked by humans if they came to the surface though

>It turns out being forced to live underground for your entire life sucks
But the game never actually shows that. Everyone seems to be happy, everyone gets along, what's the big deal? It's not like all of the monsters are in poverty or are starving

>gets away with it
say that to his dead corpse

Q&A + ending shows that they've been there for at least a few months and things are okay.
Game has a happy ending.
Its a flaw on Toby's part, but the game does mention that it sucks and that a lot of monsters want to get free.
The mouse in Snowdin is the one that says that Asgore's promise is the only reason he bothers getting up, and Burgerpants basically says its the only reason he hasn't offed himself due to his shitty life

A lot of the games population has to live in areas too hot, or too cold, or too wet, or in ruins. The only place that's fine is New Home, which is overcrowded.

The Genocide run entails having to spend more time and effort than is actually necessary to get through the game killing every last monster. You also have to kill Papyrus in cold blood who refuses to try and harm you.

And the adult that died couldn't either

>sans and toriel eating lunchables and wine together
cute

Yeah that was pretty fucked

A lot of monsters complain in the game. I remember the waterfall area in particular having a ton of bitter monster echos in the flowers and they don't seem to have the ability to make much beyond what falls into the underground. It would have been better if you actually got to see the capital city though, apparently you're just out in the monster boonies the whole game.

Your ability to reload (which obviously canonically exists in game) means that you have no need to defend yourself lethally, so killing monsters is never a necessary decision you have to make.

The only thing weighing against the monster's life is your patience for dealing with it peacefully, so yes, in that context killing in self defence is pretty immoral.

It seems that a lot of monsters are starved for sunlight.

The only decent ending for this piece of shit is when you kill that faggot and leave, end of story.

>no child murdering goat daddy

Yeah this is pretty much what Undyne says, that it wasn't self defense, it was just you taking the easy way out

...

D-DADDY

Wait, undyne says this? She is not aware that the player can save and reload. On what grounds can she claim this?

Sans says it