No heavens....No hells

No heavens....No hells....

Only this..

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Dota 2 lines are so fucking good. Dirge is best boy thematically.

what are we if not slaves to this torment

This image makes me so fucking happy.

what video is this from

That's a weird way to spell Lion

Lion was cool until they changed him from fat smug warlock to generic edgy spiky faced cat.

You could say that about half the cast. I don't know where it all went wrong but it's like they're going out of their way fucking up the few good designs they have left.

carl

is that you

DotA 2 died along with skeleton king

yep, they did it to venomancer, viper, wraith king, lion, and probably mirana too

Fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you cunt why you reminded me of this. THEY MURDERED OUR KING!
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Who would win?
Who was in the wrong?

Leoric (HotS) is much muck fucking cooler looking than DotA2 WK/Skeleton King. Dunno about the character gameplay in DotA2. DotA is better game without doubt and gotta appreciate that you can wear individual armor pieces instead of the gay skin shit that we have here in HotS.

MY WORDS ENTER THE MIND, BUT NOT THE EAR.

>My wings beat with the rhythms of eternity.
>I have been here many times in my dreams.
>I am the midnight of your soul.
>From a place beyond time, and time beyond counting.
>The murk of Avernus floods my veins.

so many fuckign good ones honestly....To bad the game went into 7.00

I stand my position that there is literally nothing wrong with 7.00 after they fixed XP curves, nerfed shrines, removed base shrines, and got rid of the XP gain talents

My issue is a lack of balance in trees more then anything else. Looking at Phantoms for example. What other carry gets a free farming tool so early in the game? lvl15 is nothing for a carry. And 75% is over kill considering you can afk in fountain with 45% eva.

I dunno, its a bunch of small stuff.

NO MORE GODS, NO MORE GREEN
ARE YOU FRIEND OR FIEND

>They say it was I that brought the first light into the universe...
>That may be right, I...can't quite remember

Nolan North is fucking amazing when he isn't forced into doing a shitty fucking Nathan Drake voice

Alright look, heres the plan. Ill hit them and you stand there looking small and.. and weak.

i was legitimately stunned when i found out who he voiced in dota2

before that point i hadn't heard him use his range at all

>This one, my friends, is in the bag, much like myself.

only in the bag line thats good honestly...

this guy is literally in 50% of all matches

Not liking Wyverns
> This must be the battle sung of in the Eldwurm's Edda: the battle that was truly in the bag!

>Pudge!
>The Butcher!
>They call me the Butcher.
>Pudge is here.
>Someone needed a Butcher?
>Make room for Pudge!
>Butcher's in business.
>Pudge!
>Make room!
>Time for a little butchery!
>Look who's coming for dinner!
>Oh, I love a good slaughter
and theyre better for it!

OPPA DENDI

THE GREAT LOOM WEAVES!

eh, id prefer skywraths over it I think
>From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!

I love undying but hate how he is utter trash in pubs past 20 minutes and rubberbanding makes it impossible to win early with him.

Mirana looked like she had an extra chromosome before and Viper looked like a flying dorito. I agree with Veno and Lion being mistakes with Skeleton King being removed the greatest sin Valve has made against it's own creation. He now even spawns skeletons for fuck's sake.
I also miss old Riki with carry stats and 5 blink charges. Nowadays all you can do with him is being a worse Bounty Hunter with a silencr.

>I use my powers for good. Take that as you will.
>I do not kill you lightly. But still, you are dead.
>I gave your death some thought, believe me!
I adore Skywrath's lines.

>play venge just now
>give space to carry
>already took one rax and was so close to victory
>axe suddenly dc
>no win

how do i train for luck?

SF and Pudge need a fucking nerf. And several heroes are in dire need of a buff, like Lina, Clinkz, Alchemist, Naga and Windrunner

What is this guy even good at in this meta/

>pudge needs a nerf
>this line was said unironically

Man ive played dota a long time.

>clinkz need a buff
lina needs to get tone down on her endgame and restore her nuke damage.

>playing venge
and people say there aren't good people on Sup Forums

Just curious, what mmr are you?
The real heroes that need nerfs are Tinker, Lycan, Phantom Lancer and de dusg :DDD.

Sven gets 65% cleave by level 7.
Also PA isn't that strong. Just nuke her down and have your supports get Ghost Scepters

but his Rot already got nerfed.

PL hasn't been good in like 2 years and if you let him get Heart after he already has to commit to Diffusal and a Yasha item then you deserve to lose anyways.

Thats one of his four main abilities. Now swap that with a movement skill that he never gets and hes a lot closer to PA in terms of movement and farm ability. Im not saying you cant deal with her, I just think her tree is a bit too strong, she has no poor options. Free lifesteal is pretty strong too, considering.

i managed to kill a decently farmed PA with only a solar crest and is able to support at the same time
also helping to take down towers quick really helps out and 400+ magic missile with -5 cooldown makes you relevant throughout

I left a month ago. Played on Ancient.
I thought Icefraud had fixed the Lycan issue considering he announced patches every week but I see he now opperates on Valve time

his manabreak talent stacks with diffusal, so you can burn 140 mana with a geminate attack
bugs and deso are decent if enemies have high armor

playing pos3 with aghs effectively gives your team an aegis every 15 seconds

>enemy pick PA
>pick Bane
>saps her low hp in lane
>take away her damage
>get the armor talent so she couldn't rekt you so easily
>grip her and get free kills
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Leoric is boring and bland. Skeleton King in Dota 2 was at least humorous and flamboyant without it being overbearing like Wraith King. And he didn't have girly long hair either.
>WELL BEGUN

OH TO FALL FROM SUCH A HEIGHT

hello guys i am the meta

Getting this as a tattoo with a traditional style skull/flowers, banner writing.

the only reason bristle isnt higher is because hes so boring not even perus can play him for long

>From the ghastly eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag

here's some quill for you!

I remember when Skywrath came out, how sick it would be landing an entire combo and absolutely nuking anyone.
I quit Dota 2 cold turkey around the time Phoenix dropped. I can still hear these lines perfectly. It gets me a little nostalgic, but I have no desire to go back to the game.

>Hahahaha, your maidenly charms were wasted on me.
What did he mean by this?

Pro players still play Wisp, right?

...

>Looking at Phantoms for example. What other carry gets a free farming tool so early in the game? lvl15 is nothing for a carry.
But it's not actually broken, she's perfectly balanced. What's wrong with giving characters fun and powerful things when they're ultimately still balanced? That idea is what Dota has always been designed around.

The 2 new heroes added look and sound like shit, and Wukong sounds like Riki.

Is this all nu-Valve has to offer?

Hes gay, you already knew that when you asked that

Literally everyone knows, why are you bringing it up

BEEP BEEP

>lone druid

such a dumpster tier hero. design doesnt belong in dota, its like hes from a different game

its never even slightly good unless its too good...just a shit class

yeah
but she's a bit out of the meta

yes, it's pretty strong with tiny or beastmaster
good luck coordinating a relocate gank with your peruvian carry though

WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THEM IS THAT THEY'RE CHEWY
AND
THEY HAVE A BERRY TASTE.

I dont think letting her have amazing movement, damage, and farming abilty by lvl 15, when compared to most other carries that dont have that, is balanced. Theres a reason most PA's rush deso after boots and never need to look back. She has everything else she needs minus BKB which she only needs half the time.

Naga is the best support in the game right now, dude.

>tether a guy for relocate
>goes to a camp and farms and break the tether
AYAAARK

It’s hard to hate Pudge just because he oozes personality. I feel that way about most heroes, really, with a few exceptions like Sniper, Gyro, and Jugg

My oh my are you behind the times

>not liking gyro's self made little whirring and zipping sounds as he flies around
have you no soul?

>sniper
HO HO
HA HA

GOLEM GET YE GONE

I thought that too
until I actually realized Phantom Rush is supposed to be skilled and maxed early for the big agi gain

The longest time I ever quit the game, the HO HO HA HA era. Jesus it was bad

>I dont think letting her have amazing movement, damage, and farming abilty by lvl 15, when compared to most other carries that dont have that, is balanced.
Well, she is balanced.

>remembering the memebacks
oh god why

nothing, play clinkz instead hes better in pretty much every single way except early laning.

>techies will never be brought back to their pre-7.00 glory
why even live?

an interesting counter point user. Im afraid im at a loss as how to counter it.

she has low health,she can be easily controlled and rely too much on getting that crit

I can think of a few ways to counter PA
pick Terrorblade. she will never ever ever be able to reliably kill you until she gets abyssal. Sunder goes through BKB.
pick Bane or Beastmaster. BKB piercing stuns.

never pick Sniper, Storm, Invoker and lane against her mid unless you are MidOne.

user she's not even in the top 50 winrates right now

>enemy PA mid
>go as Zoos
>somebody pick CM as a bonus
>let the fun times begin

I love Jug because he used to be my most used heroe together with Luna

Low stated health, high effective health. As well as one of the better movement skills in the game making it so if she starts losing she can just leave. Its not just about the green bar user.
Im by no means saying she isnt counterable, she very much is. Im saying that by lvl 15 she has way more tools then most other carries and it makes her unbalanced in that regard. While AM needs to farm his gold maker she knows shell have it regardless of how lanes go. She can rush deso and be ready to fight with a farming tool by 15, and if she doesnt want to she can spend the 4 mins it takes to get bkb. Few other carries can boast this. Fewer with such a low skill ceiling.
Why would that matter? You think even a quarter of picks are made based on win/loss or countering? And even if they where, it wouldnt stop her being unbalanced in her skills and options comparatively.

I frankly don't do well with her at all. maybe it's just me.

Wukonf sounded like McCree in the preview, No idea why Valve change his voice

>Why would that matter? You think even a quarter of picks are made based on win/loss or countering? And even if they where, it wouldnt stop her being unbalanced in her skills and options comparatively.
If a character isn't performing in the top 50 even with pub trash games factored in, that character is not overpowered and if you think they are you're doing something wrong.

honestly when I used to play with my buddies and somone picked PA we just went Lion/Zeus and focused to make her lane absolutely miserable to the point of quitting the game. Rest of the team picked NP and SS and we just split pushed our way to victory in sub 30 minutes. Good times.

>play dota again
>30-50 minute matches every time
>everyone is uptight
And now I remember why I quit.

Shes not a guaranteed win, she just gets too much free stuff in comparison to most. wheres svens free blink?
Unbalanced, not overpowered.

>From a lowly birth in the Shadeshore ruins, who could ever guess I would fight among Heroes?

>Unbalanced, not overpowered.
Those are the same thing. A character that is not overpowered or underpowered is not unbalanced.

I feel whenever I do well with her, we don't really manage to close out the game early enough before the enemy gets MKBs and just shuts me down hard

Well im sure back in the day, im sure she didnt get a free battle fury at lvl15 whether she farmed well or not right? In 30 mins she has her deso and BKB and youre supports dont have their ghoost sceptres. How does zues or lion live?
Not true at all. Something can be unbalanced without being overpowered. In the same way something can be underpowered but not unbalanced.
Use the time it takes them to farm that to get your assualt curras or whatever other armor or health item. Them needing to get mkbs is space for you as a carry.

before she's 15 she dies to zeus or lion pretty much looking in her direction, the guy specifically pointed out that they harassed her nonstop

>Not true at all. Something can be unbalanced without being overpowered. In the same way something can be underpowered but not unbalanced.
Either way, you were crying about her talent being too strong, so that was your complaint.

What the hell happen to Necrophos? Ever since Dotabuff came out Necro has always been in at least the top 5..and rarely dropped below 5.

Also I have known Pudge to always be super popular but he is sitting at almost 44% pick rate with a 53% win rate...what the hell has happen to Dota I've been away too long.