How do we save Sonic?

How do we save Sonic?
He was once a titan of the industry.

let nintendo make a sonic game

Release Sonic Adventure 3 with Chao Garden included. Get Crush 50 to compose the songs again. What perfect time since it's Sonic Adventure 20th anniversary soon.

Take Sonic away from the Sonic Team and let somebody else do a game. They did that with Mania and look how that turned out.

>Let's make a sequel to a bad sub series to save the series
no

...

Merge the Mania and Utopia devs.
Give them AA-levels of money and assistance.
Drop SEGA's weird restrictions from post-Penders.
Put Sonic Team back on Phantasy Star because they clearly hate making Sonic.

What would a SA3 be about?

Quantum Dial from Archie except it's now being activated by an even edgier hedgheog.

Pry him from Sonic Team's cold, dead hands

Probably about Sonic getting a Super Sayian Blue form.

I would say give him to another developer but if Sonic Forces did well then SEGA will just keep letting Sonic Team make shitty games. Did Sonic Forces really perform well or was SEGA just lying to their shareholders?

S3&K already did that.

Adventure is what killed both the series and its music, no thanks.

too late, its playerbase is already fragmented into shards.
Sonic ends up like every game with a cartoon animal and anthropomorphic protagonist. buried and dead. Sonic is alive by autism only. A fate worse than death

Put Sally Acorn in already.
Have Sonic's friends be playable again.
Give every single one of Sonic's friends super forms or at least the ones that matter like Tails, Knuckles, and Shadow.
Fuse Sonic and/or his friends together or at least fuse Sonic with Shadow.
Bring back the Chao garden.
Stop catering to people who still think Classic Sonic matters.
Stop making crossovers with Mario.
Take a break from making Sonic games until Capcom makes a proper new Megaman game oh wait.

>Sonic Adventures music
>Not one of the greatest things about the Sonic franchise
Are you deaf?

Literally and unironically this. Just fucking give him to Nintendo already, I guarantee you that with just a LITTLE background knowledge and homework they could make a vastly better Sonic game than Sonic Team.

Improve the parkour system. Lost world was by no means a bad game, it's just more average and the level design didn't really do it any favors either.

No that was Super Sonic God. They need Super Sonic God Super Sonic.

Oh look, another Adventurefag. How old are you people?

>Complain Sonic is too nostalgic mined
>Complain Mega Man isn't nostalgic mined enough.
Even for an overt troll post I am pissed

Just let it die already. It's a shameful reminder how long a series can survive on name recognition alone.

1/3 of sonic adventure 2 is good the sonic and shadow levels that makes it a bad game overall especially since sonic/shadow levels are about 2-5 minutes long and tails/eggman take at least 10 minutes you spend more time doing shit levels

We don't. I love Sonic for what it is, a cheesy product of it's time. But that's exactly what it is. It was relevant for exactly the time period such a thing could have been relevant. As soon as the early '90s ended, edgy animal mascot characters went out of fashion. Sonic is for the retro crowd now.

That, and the autistic fetishists, but we don't talk about them.

>game is now open world with hundreds of tedious collectables
>alternatively, it's rehashed, easy, and mediocre.
>alternatively, it doesn't exist because Nintendo threw it in the bin with the other dozen IPs they refuse to use.

What the fuck are you retards smoking.

>Sonic is alive by autism only.
this is true.

I mean, they couldn't possibly be in it for the quality of the gameplay. Those games are really, really fucking bad.

Don't let the Sonic Team or Sega of Japan in general touch Sonic ever again.

They fluked the creation of the original Sonic Team and since the OG boys left they've been a hindrance to the franchise. They dicked around on the Saturn and created nothing good, they shat on the franchise when it turned 3D because they wanted a minigame collection, Iizuka is literally more of a fan of Mario than Sonic, and every time an outsider tried to do something good for the franchise, the egos of the Jap devs got in their way and they intentionally sabotaged it. Sonic might have been made in Japan originally but it seems clear to me that, other than the original members of Sonic Team, westerners like Taxman are the only people who have ever really "got" what Sonic is all about.

I always knew this about the sonic fandom but i couldn't prove it. most people are into sonic for the characters at least the newer fans.

>Titan
More like a limited run silver metal with the half-life of beanie babies.

Dumb niggers with an IQ of 45.

>game is now open world with hundreds of tedious collectables

So Sonic Utopia? Fucking count me in!

Mania is fucking garbage.

Give Sonic a gas pedal for 3D games: analog stick will allow him to walk around with tight platforming sensitivity while holding right trigger will accelerate him and allow you to not run off the side of stages.

If people stop caring, then it dies out. Not everything lasts forever.

It's also easily the best Sonic-related video game made in the past 24 years, by far.

t. Sonic Team

1 (ONE) shekel has been deposited into your bank account

Alright Iizuka

disband sonic team, let someone competent run the show

>It's also easily the best Sonic-related video game made in the past 24 years, by far.

Fat stinky retards pretending like they're better than other fat stinky retards. The irony

good point.

That's not an original or even a controversial opinion. Sonic has sucked complete shit since 1994. Only the most devout autists give a shit about Sonic now.

What? you don't like sonic 3?

just put him out of his misery. He's in pain and the autists just won't let him die in peace.

Sonic has been terrible for longer than 99% of Sup Forums has even been alive.

this is
>you

look! it's
>you

There's always one vehemently anti-Mania shitter in every Sonic thread but he can never seem to articulate real criticisms of the game design apart from "muh rehash" (which I'd argue isn't even a legitimate criticism), "lack of zone transitions" and "muh spider boss".

Which is weird because the spider boss - which isn't hard by the way so all you gitgud fags can back down - isn't even the worst designed boss in the game. Mirage Saloon Act 1 Sonic is easily way shittier in design and far less fun.

>this is how autists argue

>That one adventure-cuck shitposter that comes in every Sonic related thread is in here now.
/thread

Makes me long for the good old days of Unleashedfag. He was obnoxious but at least he tried to defend his half-baked views instead of just posting brainlet wojaks

They're not anti-Mania, they're just butthurt because they grew up with the bad Sonic games and they're in denial over the fact that they're compete shit.

hey, I found this picture of
>you

Only real criticism I have against Mania is that some of the levels feel too automated like Studiopolis act 2 and Mirage Saloon act 2.
Anything else is just a matter of personal opinion, but other than that it's a solid game.

I don't know if Nintendo really gets the Sonic feel. Sonic has always been the antithesis of Nintendo's platformers. I just can't see a Nintendo Sonic being good.

Fire Iizuka and those amateurs that are working with him, especially the idiot that wrote stories for 06, LW and Forces.
Get new fresh blood in there, with people that care and understand what Sonic can be and not idiots that want to "try" new things for Sonic to please other audiences. And DONT LOSE YOUR BEST MEMBERS TO OTHER COMPANIES SO OFTEN. Some of the people that worked in Unleashed, Colors and Generations are now working with Nintendo and Mario games, even graphic desginers, so for some reason Odyssey graphics remind Unleashed so much

There's one now. I'm sorry Sonic sucked so bad when you were 10, bro. Hope it hasn't caused you too much mental anguish over the years.

>You

Just spend a little more time on level design. Sonic Forces was a perfectly fine game that was only held back by its linear levels. The boost gameplay works with good levels (see Colors and Generations) and with linear levels (Unleashed, Forces) it's merely okay.

In fairness, Sonic 3 has a lot of the same problems (in fact, worse in places - the transporters in the Death Egg Zone, anyone?) and that's a critical darling.

>it's 2018 and Adventurefags still exist
>ST once gave us a glimmer of hope with Unleashed, Colors and Generations but dropped the ball again afterwards
>Iizuka is jealous of Mania's critical success

Truly the worst timeline.

I mean, you could have played Spyro the Dragon or Crash Bandicoot instead, right? Those were perfectly fine little kid games to play instead of those crappy Sonic games. Why didn't you play those instead? You might be fucking a hot girl while living in a mansion right now instead of being angry on Sup Forums if you'd only made the right life choices.

Iizuka is jealous of most things. Especially other people's teeth.

Iizuka has really bad teeth. And hair.

You people keep saying that but you'd be surprised at the amount of ex-Sonic Team staff working now at Nintendo EAD or other Nintendo second-parties

Sonic 3 was the first Sonic you could (mostly) hold right to win. That said, doing so would result in a VERY unoptimized play-through. It was also the first one that really took advantage of the branching paths and intertwining routes idea that started in 2 and CD.

I'm a classicfag through and through but I enjoyed boost for what it was and nothing hurts me more than knowing Sonic Team had a good thing going with it but fucked it up. Playing Rush, Unleashed-Day, Colors and Generations as a teenager really made me feel like Sonic was on the comeback, and picking up the pieces of his shattered reputation one game at a time. Then they killed it with Lost World (but I at least admire the creativity) and fucked the corpse with Forces.

So at this point, Sonic Team don't know how to make classic, can't (or won't) replicate Adventure, and all of the talent that made boost work have left for other companies. What's even the point of keeping them around? Put them on Puyo Puyo permanently and give Sonic to the westerners.

I loved mania but still like Adventure 1 and 2.

>You might be fucking a hot girl while living in a mansion right now instead of being angry on Sup Forums if you'd only made the right life choices.
Damn you're right. Instead of bullying permavirgin Sup Forums autists like you I should be getting my dick sucked.

You could. But your mother bought you a Sonic game and ruined your life. If you're lucky, she'll be dead soon.

>playing sonic games
>fucking a hot girl
not possible.

and his face looks like a greased up giblet.

Already tried that, didn't quite work out

Looks like you're just self-projecting you autistic nigger. Your life was ruined when your fat crack whore mother bought you a sonic game because it traumatized and made you scared for your life. If you're lucky she'll die soon. To be honest, your mother deserves to have her head smashed on the concrete pavement until there's nothing but a bloody puddle, and then all her limbs removed, her eyes gouged out, and then gutted and beheaded and have her corpse set on fire and her ashes fed to dogs for birthing a autistic loser like you.

Make a game like "Sonic World R8" but official and with better physics/lighting

I'm not going to defend the autist you were shitposting with, but damn, dial down that edge. Are you sure you didn't play Shadow the Hedgehog? Sure seems like it.

Oh and a built in level designer, that would be the evolution of sonic games since people bitching about bad level design is so common.

this copypasta gets lengthier the more you post it.

Just let the Mania team handle the series from now on and disband Sonic Team.

A autistic sperg like him isn't edgy, he's just full of angst because his mother is going to die soon.

That wouldn't solve anything as long as Sonic Team is still bad, disregarding the fact that 06 is basically Adventure 3.
You're literally asking for a title + chao garden.

You'd have to either change Sonic Team from the inside out or just give 3D Sonic to another company. Hell, just give Sonic Team a chance to work on new shit besides Sonic and Puyo Puyo.
2D Sonic is easy, just let the Mania team handle it from here on out.

>no u

>Stop catering to people who still think Classic Sonic matters.
Why not? It resulted in the best Sonic game in years possibly ever

>Put Sally Acorn in already.
This is how I know the rest of your list is going to be shit

I'd fucking kill you and your fat crack whore mother. Your last words will be me thanking you for killing her and her ruining your life. To be honest though, anyone will see you're a retarded autistic nigger faggot and will have this irresistible urge to brutally slaughter you and your bloodline so I don't have to do shit since your days are numbered anyway.

>you

>good Sonic games
1
2
CD
3 and Knuckles
Triple Trouble
Mean Bean Machine
SegaSonic
Pocket Adventure
the Advance trilogy
Rush and Rush Adventure
Battle
Riders
Colors
Generations
All Stars Racing and Transformed
Mania

>shit Sonic games
everything else

Your mother clearly grabbed you by your dome and bashed it in on the floor when you were a baby. Explains your horrifically shit taste.

>tfw Sonic Forces Speed Battle was a better game than actual Sonic Forces

Fixed*

>SegaSonic
>Advance 3
Questionable
>Mean Bean Machine
Good but literally not even Sonic, putting it in a Sonic game list is a real stretch

Other than that you're not far off, although I'd argue that there's a subcategory of "okay/love-it-or-hate-it" games inbetween good and shit. It's not really fair to put Unleashed in the same league as Boom

Are Cream cards glitched? ive not got any yet and ive not seen anyone playing her

Sonic fans don't know what they want.

Havent played the update yet so idk

Most recent Sonic games are bad. They need to be good.

For real, other than bugginess, every bad Sonic game is bad for different reasons.

>still continuing this autism edgelord battle
thanks for proving my point.

>I tried so hard and got so far

The fanbase is so fragmented at this point that it's impossible to please all of them.
Just off the top of my head, we have:
>classicfags
>adventurefags
>boostfags
>archie/satamfags
>unleashedfags
>heroesfags