Second Chart Suffering Thread

Here are the rules, actually read them:
>No characters from the first chart.
>No vidya memes, creators or e-celebs.
>5 characters at the most for a series.
>Provide an image for the character you want to post and state the name of the character and the game its from
>Write a brief explanation about what your character does and why it would fit in that particular slot since I don't know every character out there.
>S0-D0, S100-D0, S0-D100, and S100-D100 will be filled in last. Feel free to post who you think would fit in any of those slots, and a strawpoll will determine who gets what slot.
List of ones mentioned so far: pastebin.com/tXHuZ0SM

58 spots left to fill in, talk about what should be moved & suggest characters. Please focus on suggesting spots that aren't taken.

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youtube.com/watch?v=IQ7-6rQPzkw
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First chart.

All old threads:
Also I meant 48 spots are left.

bump

Another one. I'll try to think of some more characters

S: 25
D: 50

Grogh, from Tonic Trouble.

A loser drunk who gets ahold of a magical can of alcohol that turns him into a viking and the rest of the world into a crazy weird stuff land, which he takes over.

Despite being a viking, he doesn't even have the balls to fight you one on one at the end, preferring instead to use a giant robot. You kick his ass, and he gives up

I wonder why these threads keep getting less posts. people seemed pretty enthusiastic at the start

Add Pierre from Majora's Mask/Ocarina of Time to the S:0 D:0 list
>Teaches you a song that makes the game so much more bearable and easier
>Just wants to dance and have a good time

We kinda already have a lot of potential characters for that spot, but alright

Yeah, read the OP
It says that you can put characters to add to a list for that spot, which will be made into a strawpoll.

I added like 7 characters around the early threads but I ran out of ideas a long time ago already. I assume others are the same, the only other possibility I can think of is that this chart is getting less enthusiasm because of the lack of meme/meta items or other quirks like Ridley, Kyubey, etc.

I haven't played the campaign of Starcraft 2 but maybe someone ought to add Kerrigan and/or Edmond Duke to the right side somewhere

>the lack of meme/meta items or other quirks like Ridley, Kyubey, etc.
I would've liked this stuff myself actually, it makes the chart more fun & Sup Forums-based but I was just sticking to the original rules the first OP made to be consistent.

S; 70
D: 90

Fassad/Yokuba, Mother 3

>mistreats a monkey
>peddles devices to brainwash and corrupt a village
>very heavily implies to secretly be a Magypsy who betrayed the others
>works for a guy who's willing to destroy the world out of boredom
>falls off of a very tall tower and is turned into a cyborg incapable of speech
>defeated twice as a cyborg, plummeting into sewer water the second time
>as he's a magypsy and can't die until his needle's pulled, presumably spent the next few hours following his second defeat in a state of perpetual drowning

Maybe lessen the rule a bit to see if we get any more spots? I'm running out of characters to add, and I've had to been the first one to add for the past three or so threads.

Is there specific number on deserved where a character goes from someone out of their depth or pushed by dire circumstances to someone acting with malicious intent?

It was cool of you to respect his rules that way, though if you ever change your mind EA and No Man's Sky will be waiting for a couple spots on the far right side.

Why do you ask?

I wonder how the co chart is doing

gimme a rundown on the 100's

How much did he suffered?

Who?

I feel it varies depending on the exact circumstances. Generally speaking though it seems like on deserving usually asshole-esque characters are in the 50-60 range with murders & worse being above. Other circumstances are when they just keep fucking up so much that it adds up.

I'll probably have to lessen them so I can get people to maintain interest. EA & No Man's Sky for example would make for pretty good spots on the far right. I do worry about the chart becoming rampant with it though, it needs to be a bit balanced if we're adding them.

S: 50
D: 100

Bubsy Bobcat
The Bubsy Series

>annoying little shit, generally unlikeable
>harasses alien life forms
>hoards yarn
>gets fucked over by aliens and his own games

It seemed like 80 is where the full on villain show up but then you have Monsoon and the devil in the same tier as Mordin in 75. Just splitting hairs.

>Detective Gumshoe is abused repeatedly across 3 video games
>suffering: 25
Explain this madness

The area he'd be in is already filled.

It used to be 10

He used to be way higher but it didn't make sense with the other characters, he was dropped down by me a little bit but then people were talking about how he was more a comic-relief character & when down to 10/10. That was too low then so he was pushed to where he is now. I only beat the first 2 Ace Attorney games & some of 3 so I'm not sure where he would fit. 50 would be the highest from what I can tell.

What did Sophitia do to deserve suffering?

Poor guy, he can't even suffer properly

S: 35
D: 70

King Mattruss, Pyst

Incompetently Rules a dingy, overcrowded, polluted, poorly run island, that worst of all is an unfunny parody of Myst

Wasn't the slot machine originally at D 80?

If you had to fuck every character on one row or column, in ascending order, which row/column would you choose and why?

It was recommended for 80, I put it on at 85 for whatever reason (spot was probably taken?) & then half of that row got shifted to the right to fix the placement of the Robloxian.

>Makoto from Yakuza

Fuck. I cri everytiem I think about her.

So is there a list for who these are?

Update.

Annoying characters are usually D50 & below. I think 45/45 might suit him better?

The area seems really full. But this character is definitly like 5 suffering and 90+ deserved it.

S:30
D:45

Kidnaps 2 Pixls, take pictures of one for an online forum, kits his castle out with annoying security systems + aggressive maids and forces Peach into a dating sim. However he only seems to do these things because he's antisocial, so he's just a bit of an asshole in the end due to him being kinda lonely and he even allows the party to buy Tiptron post-game without attacking them.

Care to elaborate?

Don't forget the most important part, his fortress has a kick ass theme:
youtube.com/watch?v=IQ7-6rQPzkw

A general who blindly and happily commits genocide to an entire sentient species. Talking shit the entire time. She helps launch an attack on said species' two kingdoms, nearly wiping the race out. The player characters try to stop her but lose three times. The story gives her a face-turn, but it's really rushed and not very well done. She eventually feels a little bad about it, but for the most part completely gets away with everything.

finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Beatrix

what's (95,5)? Portal?

People who use the Danger Close perk from Call of Duty. As silly as it is it should probably be removed.

>no memes

Snake... had a hard life.

I think he was on the first chart

Pretty neat chart

I haven't found him on either chart

S: 85

D: 70

Explain why.

he was hated by his shitty father the moment he was morn for being deformed and was ordered to be killed, so because of that he can't really be blamed for never feeling love with those being his first moments, he was also betrayed by team fortress classic for no real reason.

However he ate the eagel that raised him.

Reptile at S-100, D-50

Because no one has suffered more for being consistently loyal than Reptile.

He was also pretty much a textbook villain his entire life.

The character at 15 deserved it and 85 suffering got most of the suffering from her.

Im not seeing Asura from Asura's wrath in any graph. Sad.
He is easily a suffered 100; deserved ~25
Too bad its already occupied in the new graph.

He's on the first chart at S80 D65.

Could put Nemu at 85,85 or something

Wil Knights
S:100
D:5

Orphaned by a soul eating eldritch horror, the Egg, who possessed his mother and killed his father, her mother died shortly after and said eldritch horror proceeded to devour both souls.
At 16 he becomes a Digger, a person who searches for powerful artifacts, eventually he comes across the man he was told to have killed his parents, said man being possessed by the egg, when confronted with the truth he has a mental breakdown but later on keeps on pursuing the egg in order to destroy it, that leads to his aunt, who cared for him since he was an infant, to sacrifice her life in order to save him during a desperate battle against the Egg.
Later on in his life, his son Rich meets the Egg again, who possessed another host, and decides to destroy it in order to save his family and his daughter, that leads to Rich fighting a lone battle against the Egg and committing suicide after the Egg tried to possess him and devour his soul.
At 84 years old, after having lost his parents, aunt, son, all of his friends and potentially his first love depending on the path you take, he finally manages to destroy the egg for good together with his granddaughter and her friends, and keeps on living for two more decades before finally dying, nobody but his granddaughter and a few close confidants even knew of his lone battle.

There's annoying, and then there's Bubsy.

That doesn't sound quite like a 100 to me. High for sure. But there are plenty of "most tragic back story ever" characters out there. Especially in jrpg's.

>That doesn't sound quite like a 100 to me.
Then I'd like an explanation as to why Rean of all people is on 100 and someone like Wil can't.

I want to hatefuck her so hard

Explain why.

So, how many characters does each series have currently?

Just made me realize the Mario series got 6 characters with the inclusion of Francis. Would anyone be opposed to keeping that there?

No idea. I'm not making the list. Just expressing my thoughts.

Alester Sarwyck from the Game of Thrones RPG

S: 70
D: 95

He self exiles himself from Westeros because he can't take the guilt from killing the family of the friend, a family he promised to protect, in order to ensure his own town would be safe. Later come back, kills numerous more people in order to prevent his bastard half-brother from taking power, and ultimately either dies at the hand of his friend when his past actions are found out, or kills his only friend, potentially either again destroying everything his friend every cherished or dying to protect it.

We already have 5 TF2 characters in the chart

Surprised the top and rightmost sections have so many spaces still missing

Update.

Pushed the suffering down to 75 instead based on what you said & how it compares with others.

I'm just going to allow it dude, I'm getting desperate to finish this.

Bump.

Has anyone suggested we put Aniki in a corner fadeout like the first chart?

Pretty good progress. I'll keep thinking of characters

House Karling/Carolingian from CK2

S: 35
D: 80

At least last time I played CK2 when they're not actively trying to fuck each other out of land or indulging in a shitload of wars, they're keeping most of Europe untouchable because they're all still allied. Trying to attack just one of them usually means they'll gang up and bulldoze your shitty little kingdom. They're also the biggest cause of border gore in the game, resulting an unholy mass of geopolitical cancer.

Why is Sans a 65 in how much they deserved it? The worst thing is he does is get a little lazy. Even then, he tried harder than anyone to kill Frisk/Chara in the genocide route.

Someone suggested Aniki in general a couple days ago. I could add fade outs on the corners of things like I did on the original chart besides maybe the top right with how the chart looks.

That's a terrible justification. You put him in the same category as Isaac's mother for god's sake, and further right than Kai Leng and Jin.

Damien/Black Kid from Snowboard kids 2. Comes up from hell to conquer Snow Town. Sees the main cast and tries to prank them via explosives, but constantly fails and is blown up instead. After he gets trounced by the main cast and starts crying like a baby, they try to reconcile with him, and he uses this as an opportunity to successfully bomb them. Also he has a crush on Nancy but she's too good for him. And probably likes her rival Jam.

D60
S30

Apathy is death. Worse than death, because at least a rotting corpse feeds the beasts and insects.

>apathy is worse than being actively evil like the people I mentioned
Hey, I've got an idea. This pic is of you. Hopefully this goes on the chart.

"the only way evil can win, is if good does nothing"

Update. It won't be staying there, don't worry.

Ok. Legit though, I don't know what to do with Sans, he may just be removed if he doesn't stay there since the left is filled.

How many left currently?

41

Kek, thanks.

Hilda - Fire Emblem Genealogy of the Holy War
Suffered: 45 Deserved: 100
>world's worst mother, sister-in-law, wife etc.
>manipulates her daughter into marrying Satan and emperor of the evil empire for her own personal gain
>probably neglectful of her son becuase he's no where near as special as her daughter
>abuses her sister-in-law to death and her niece and gloats about it to her nephew
>involved in the child hunts for the thrill of killing mothers and taking their children
>one npc describes as the devil in human form
>but she eventually sees the downfall of her family and is the second last to die out of all of them

I thought the worm thing in first chart on S100 D65 represents the whole IHNMAIMS main cast, but we have Nimdok on S100 D90 the second chart

>tsumugi
>75 deserved it

brainlets, did you even notice her lines changing between the 2 "awakenings"?

I think I've gotten like 7 characters onto this chart. Am I overdoing it? Right side is fucking hard.

I've got like 30

This one will be my 2nd if it works

Marie Mamiya fron Starless: Nymphomaniac's Paradise.
>S: 5
>D: 100

Deserves it because:
>Spoiled billionaire who gains money through selling whoring all of her servants to their guests
>Baits innocent middle class workers with a 4 million dollar contract to work under her as a servant, where she pretty much holds them hostage as her sex slaves until their contract is over.
>The activities include but are not limited to: forcing unwilling workers to eat shit, fuck animals,rape, get shocked and punctured by needles, using drugs and stimulants to let her modify your body into a depraved sex machine to suit her and her family's pleasure among other things.
>It's heavily implied that she has control over various companies all over the globe due to her status, making it completely impossible for the MC to disobey her.
>After the contract is over, she usually lures them into a trap to break an expensive vase so she has the right to keep them as slaves forever or harvest their organs.
>She gives 0 fucks to any of her works dying from exhaustion, if not feeling joyful about torturing them to death if she feels like they wronged them.
>In none of the game's endings you can actually "win" against her, the best ending is the one where the MC gets married to another drugged worker while she keeps her business going.
>Murdered a family man in front of his family and kept his wife and underage child as their sex slaves because they didn't want to sell their restaurant to them.
>Created 3 children to be exactly like her in every way.

Suffers because:
>She deals with chronic constipation

Did dorfs really deserve it that much?
I mean in all media they're portrayed as really fucking greedy but they can't be as bad doing deals with the devil and shit.

Also Patches did nothing wrong.

Can't see Gwyn btw.

Does anyone remember the plot to Lost Kingdoms 1 and 2? I coulda sworn there were some high suffering characters in there.

Wait, that doesn't make sense. Wouldn't her D be low?

I see some stuff was moved overr to the right on row 75 of suffering. Unfornately, that really puts Yasha (pic related) too far into deserved.

Who are the characters in the two posts to his left Could they be swapped?

here's what yasha did

>willingly participated in a plan to defeat a greater evil tthat involved the murder of his sister, the kidnapping of his niece, and the framing of his brother in law
>over the years facilitated the deaths of 7 trillion humans to fuel a giant soul powered space laser to kill this greater evil
>did all of this for the greater good, but was blinded by loyalty to the leader of his group to see what he was doing was wrong
>eventually learned the error of his ways and helped Asura take him down, save his niece
>eventually sacirifices himself to give Asura a powerup to kill God, who actually made the greater evil to test them

Yasha did a hell of a lot of bad shit willingly, so he deserves to be high up in deserved, but he's not fundamentally an evil or sadistic person, and turns into a huge bro. Having him in 95 deserved is too high given the other characters in that column. he should really be moved to 90 or 85 deserved.

The arbiter might also deserve to be swapped with the character to his right (since what he did is similar to yasha, sort of), who are they?

Zephiel from Fire Emblem: Binding Blade

S: 50
D: 95 / 100

His own dad tried to kill him when he was young, so he grew up angry at the world and eventually decided that the dragons should rule everything. So he teamed up with the dragons in hiding who had a corrupted Divine Dragon that pooped out War Dragons and got busy conquering/genociding other nations. Responsible for the death of one (maybe two) main characters from FE7.

Man I really wish sei shoujo wasnt dead

Don't we already have a bunch of FE characters?

So where on the D line does outright villainy start?

Its not that clear cut
you can have an evil villain that is so ineffective he doesnt deserve much suffering

I suppose so, yeah.

Any examples of that on the chart?