>it's another A.16, Adult Gohan, Cell or Goku Black episode with co-star Vegeta
I am getting tired of this
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Just stomp them in by tier whoring too
no big deal
Goku Black did nothing wrong
stopped playing and watching because of this
GULDO
Stay in that corner baby, don't worry I won't hurt you
Best boys
Soon it will be featuring broly from the goku may cry series.
>Strongest fighter in the multiverse is just an assist attack
What went wrong?
Did Arc ever say something about adding friend matches. Using ring battles is kinda clunky.
Everything after Z.
Twinks don't deserve to be their own characters.
Broly/Bardock update is confirmed to have balance changes. 16's 5H is confirmed nerfed, and Vegeta's assist is now both faster and has less shots lessening its lockdown capability and probably making those very situational infinites even harder to pull off.
Welcome to the 3v3 with assists fighter user. If at all possible, try to not let Chris G ruin this for you, cause he'll fuckin try.
patch coming on wednesday. surely your autism can wait 2 days right
I play 3 of those characters, enjoy.
source?
I just picked up Majin Buu. Shit is so fun
Tiers literally don't matter unless you're a high level player at the tournament level. I've played party mode with Majin Boo and T Gohans wrecking shit.
nice
Not OP, but what time specifically does Arc usually make DLC characters available? Both on PoS4 and Steaming pile
this is a bandai namco game so nothing about arcsys applies to it. and the patches usually come in the morning american time after maintenance. this is a huge patch so the maintenance could be long into the afternoon or evening.
A.Gohan, 16, and Vegeta got nerfed in the build with Broly and Bardock. Say goodbye to your corner pressure, you braindead Gocuck.
What'd they nerf exactly?
I main Gotenks/Piccolo/Gohan for one reason only, for their Super to be character specific.
>Gotenks playing volleyball with Piccolo
>Gohan not having is little faggot brother by his side
>16/Gohan nerfed
>Vegeta assist nerfed but not nullified
>Black being figured out slowly
Your new meta is Cell/Kid Buu/Bardock with a handful of Vegeta/21/Broly/Black/18/Trunks
Not him, but all I know is that they're toning down 16's super armor on his heavy attacks. Not sure what other nerfs if any are coming to 16, or what they did to Gohan and Vegeta.
And I think I'm gonna pick a Majin team too.
16's armor on his H isn't on frame 1, A.Gohan combos less, and Vegeta's assist became even more situational.
Is that all?
Because if it is, then that's not gonna bug me too much. I'll still be able to have my Dunkin Donuts.
16's armor was never on Frame 1, Max was talking out of his ass there, armor starts up like 3-5 frames in. He's right that it was nerfed though, probably has the armor start even later and maybe takes less hits. Broly's armor on some of his moves seems limited to 1 hit while others take multiple, so maybe they made 16's on par with some of Broly's lesser armored moves so Broly can be the true armor abuser.
>mfw throwing fat at people and always catching them
I need to get better with him so I can have team big bois 16/Broccoli/Mr.
That team unironically sounds good. Broly assist seems like it'll be great for comboing into Fat resets. I'll be playing Broly/Tien/16 myself. Tien does big boy damage, has a couple grabs, and has 236M so he fits well enough.
The only one that's a known value is Cell. Kid Buu is good, but there are other perfect candidates that can do what he does better.
Good luck getting to your dunks without armor.
I still can't believe Fat Buu is still being slept on. Is it because he's fat? Is this another Rufus/Bob scenario?
>Broly's damage is bad
>doesn't seem to have good Oki alone unless the opponent is in the corner
As an anchor Broly, am I fucked?
>Kid Buu is good, but there are other perfect candidates that can do what he does better.
His neutral and pressure are unlike anybody else in the game, he has strong synergy with other high/top tier characters, his assist is probably the 2nd best for lockdown after Vegeta's, and he's so small that some combos just don't work on him. He's also got multiple of some of the best players in the game using him, while GO1 and SonicFox both advocate for his strengths and have publicly considered picking him up recently (GO1 will only use him if Gohan is nerfed a lot though).
>I still can't believe Fat Buu is still being slept on.
His ground-to-ground game kinda sucks and his combo/pressure routes are really unorthodox to learn and use properly, but you're correct in that he's actually quite good. Nobody but BreakerDave and Alioune seem to be using him on a high level. I think if he gets a couple key buffs in the patch he'll be "discovered" soon.
Yes, because you're playing him anchor. Use his armor and "Fuck Projectiles" shield to win neutral and bully the opponent into the corner, blow up their escape attempt with an armored meaty, and then bring in your character that has good oki.
We will see, even if CHADhan gets nerfed to the dirt I still have EDGEhan ready for dispatch
16 is getting his armor nerfed soon. Preview build with Bardock and Broly contained some changes to that. I guess they won't touch all his wakeup options though so I'm not sure how much that is gonna help.
>projectile shield
Oh no! Now how am I supposed to fight at a distance?
You dipshits are still raging about 16s super armor on his 1 move when Broly is confirmed having armor on almost every move he has.
Get ready for the new kid Buu/Broly/Cell meta. You will be BEGGING them to give 16 his armor back.
It's another
>wait 10min
>get match
>times out
>wait 20min
>get a match
>they spam 1 button, die
>rage quit
NICE FUCKING GAME SO MUCH FUN WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
You sound like you're on PC
>mfw my favorite characters in the show are unironically adult gohan and goku black and I can't play my favorite characters without people thinking I'm just some tier whore
kid buu's 2M will never not trigger me
Just play them and enjoy the butthurt
>implying that matters
I used Luigi in Smash 4 when he was OP. Fuck changing my main for babies who suck.
>playing fighting games on pc
>decide to use cell one day
>he's fun
I understand now
But I want to reverse OCV with MY SKIN IS COLD playing the background
Everybody will think you're a tier whore anyway unless you have a team with T Gohan, Captain Ginyu, Majin Buu, Krillin, Piccolo or Nappa. I got called a tier whore using the Androids, 18/21/16, in that order too. 16 wasn't even on point! I was just doing an Android meme team which had next to no synergy and got called a tier whore.
>buying shitty hardware
How did they make such a perfect waifu?
>those muscles though
PS4
>Hyaaaaaa!
What exactly did they do to Vegeta's assist
Gripes is a miracle
>People thought Guldo comboing into Body Change was busted
>But the real bullshit is RECOOME ERASER GUN letting you do real infinites
>not into Dragon Ball, dont give a shit
>see 21
>she seems nice and interesting, a scientist
>she's a buu android
>how the fuck does that work but ok, still interested
>see all the obvious shitty fetish waifu-bait shit that Mori forced onto the character
And yet another character ruined.
Fuck off Mori nobody fucking wants more of shitty Noels vX.0
That's not gonna last two patch cycles and you know it.
>But the real bullshit is RECOOME ERASER GUN letting you do real infinites
You will literally never pull this off in a match
Shorter duration, ~2 less blasts fired.
I think he's hit and miss, but I really liked the last two weeks of him on the Friendcast, especially the 4.5-hour one of just him Pat & Woolie talking shit and barely fitting the news and emails in the last 60 minutes.
>he'll be "discovered" soon.
pls no. Using him is the only thing that gives me an edge online. No one knows how to properly play or counter against him. Shit is awesome. IF he gets discovered people will actually develop strategies against him. If I could choose 3 fat buus I would.
>Nappa has 0 favorable matchups
>Only 1 even matchup with M Buu
>Has 23 unfavorable matchups
And people were trying to tell me that he was gonna be stealth high tier.
Show me a fighting game where this isn't a thing.
Literally any non-Dragonball Shit fighting game
Nappa deserved better
Literal trash. He only scored a 20 out of 100.
UMvC3
They never will, but I wish that Matt would go and stay go from the podcast and that they'd bring Plague on every other week. I realised a couple of months ago that Matt is fucking cancer and now I find him utterly insufferable to listen to.
16/Beerus/Broly
Just be glad your characters turned out to be top tier for once.
no one got nerfed in this build you guys are retards
vegeta assist is identical
and 16's armor being changed is just something max mentioned
he said it has startup as opposed to being frame 1
but it never was frame 1
I can make shit up too, ya know.
>he posts objective evidence
>get BTFO hard
>"y-y-y-yeah i can make up shit t-t-too..."
Just butting in to say he fucking owned you kid, and I don't even play this shitty game
I want to breed Ginyu
Nappa's my most played character. Honestly he would be decent if his air neutral wasn't so limited in options. He has literally zero anti-air specials and the worst 2H in the game. He has good pressure with a saibaman, but you pretty much NEED to start with switching him in from someone else's 2H to get it going so you get a ground slide.
About to go online for the first time today. Any tips on what to do/not to do/watch out for?
He 2H ain't great, but I gotta disagree with it being the worst, that goes to Krillin or Kid Buu.
2H beats Super dash. Make idiots who use it as their only option to get in suffer for it.
welcome to toptier
Standing block if they're in the air, crouch block if not. There are exceptions to that rule even beyond the 6M overhead, but you'll learn them in good time.
Don't be ashamed to use autocombos at times.
Don't time your 2H to a jump, expect them to double jump before landing, maybe even super dashing.
Those two have shit range (and add T.Gohan to that by the way), but at least they hit super dashers from ground level. Nappa's can whiff those on occasion. I've had it happen to me more than once against at least Frieza and 18.
Do people still hate Hit?
He isn't a "pick up and win" character.
Thanks user, i thought the vegeta nerfs were for real
> No Yamcha, 18, Hit teams
Yall niggas suck.
Instead of nerfing Virginia, I would rather have them add at least one more assist per character. If you want lockdown, you're pretty much forced to use his assist.
I admit that would be kinda difficult to balance the point~support definitions, but I believe it would still be better than what we have now.
geets isn't nerfedwatch the webm
Good thing I use Gotenks for my lockdown and extensions.
>caring about others opinions
Thanks for the advice anons.
>Don't be ashamed to use autocombos at times
Should I be practicing combos before hopping on? I'm pretty new to fighting games in general, but I figured getting a feel for actual matches and maybe learning some fundamentals would be better to do first, than grinding combos against a training dummy.
you should know the system mechanics, all of your characters' moves
and a basic combo for each, the universal one is fine
Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well.
To be fair, just jumping online and seeing what the playing field is like and seeing how others play isn't a bad idea, just make sure you don't pick up bad habits from it.
If you are new to fighting games, keep your assists in mind, they're easy for a new player to forget about. Pay attention to how much recoverable (blue) hp you've got and switch out when appropriate - if you land a level 1, you can safely switch out if you have another bar by pressing your assist button, and get some more damage out too.
You don't really need to practice too many combos at start really. Just know that after you hit a heavy or LLL and chase, every character can do LM(jump cancel)LLL in the air, and if the launch was from 2H or LLL, it'll make them slide on the ground for a while. You can connect a super at the end of the combo if the enemy is sliding on the ground from you smacking them down and you land fast and/or close enough.
I just want to say the gohanposters in these fighterz threads are the best part about them. the staying in the corner meme is pretty amusing.
Nappa is a good character, 21fags need not to apply.
>Not using both Nappa and 21 in your team
They're probably my two most played characters.