Are any of the PC versions of Final Fantasy games worth a damn...

Are any of the PC versions of Final Fantasy games worth a damn? I have only a high-end PC and have never played a FF game.

There is some big sale on greenmangayman right now so I wanna try some.

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They're all fine except FFXIII and FFXIII-2 which are broken beyond belief on PC, but those games are shit anyway.

FFX/X-2 is perfect aside of the fact that SE locked to 30fps by some crazy voodoo black magic that no one can figure out to crack for some reason.

Frame-rate is probably tied to internal game logic ala Okami and a lot of Koei Tecmo stuff.

Square did all sorts of crazy shit to make these games run the way they wanted them to on the PS2's limited hardware so the framerate likely plays a role in the overall programming to where changing it would break the game.

A lot of the old school ones are ports of the mobile ports. Avoid those at all costs

Majority of them are good.
The ports of the older, 2D games are almost automatically shitty though. Better just emulate them on any SNES and NES emulator instead.

>never played FF
In that case, FF7 is perhaps the most rookie-friendly crash course to the history and good points of the series. Closely followed by FF9, which is more of a return to the roots.

After that .... choose your poison. The games can differ A LOT from each other, and which you prefer are only up for debate.

>FFXIII and FFXIII-2 which are broken beyond belief on PC, but those games are shit anyway.
No they're not. Hell, people were playing those things on laptops with mere Intel HD Graphics 4000, years ago. Plus the games themselves are good.

Just avoid anything from 6 and back emulate those instead.

>XIII-2
>shit
You're shit.

desktop threads on HD remastered

hating FF games on Sup Forums is a meme. even the worst FF game is fun if you have any sort of affinity for JRPG's. i love the 13 trilogy personally even though parts of the first one annoy me, and i'm an oldfag, it's not just cuz babby's first JRPG. just go into them with an open mind.

>greenmangayman

>check this out
>FFX/X-2 os $15
>"nice"
>add to cart
>now $13.50

NOICE

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same. thanks for the heads up on the sale, OP. i know world of FF is gay but i'll grab it while it's half price because i'm gay.

>it's an it was a thinly veiled shill thread episode

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>world of FF is gay
It's the best game SE made in recent years.

>getting AAA jrpgs for really cheap
>shilling

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They are horribly optimized for anything except NVIDIA cards. The game is literally unplayable on my PC and I can play most new games at medium settings.

>They are horribly optimized for anything except NVIDIA cards.
I see AMD kids are still MAD.
And I just told ya: runs fine on integrated MOBILE chips.

I've literally only had issues with two games, and that's Arkham Knight and Final Fantasy XIII-2. Arkham Knight my PC may have been a little undergeared for, but there was no excuse for XIII-2.

It's not AMD's fault, it's retarded designers not bothering to test their shit.

XIII and XIII-2 have random framerate drops constantly no matter what graphics card you have. I have a 970 and I can't hold 60fps in XIII or XIII-2 (but I can in Lightning Returns).
III, IV, VII, VIII, IX, X/X-2 HD, XI, XII: The Zodiac Age, Lightning Returns, XIV: ARR, XV, Type-0 HD, World, and Mobius are all good PC ports.
V and VI are terrible because they have ugly remade phone art, and XIII and XIII-2 are terrible because they have constant unfixable random framerate drops. Some people might try to stear you away from X/X-2 HD because it has a lot of questionable artistic changes. In particular, its facial animations are broken and as a result the characters are not as expressive as they were in the original X release back on PS2. Tidus' face is also uglier. However, its still a good game and a good port, and I personally like some of the changes. Your mileage may vary.

As far as games go, I'd argue XII is the best of the lot. It has a damn good PC port, some of the best worldbuilding in video games, and fantastic music.

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Does XII really require as high of specs as it says on the store page? It's a PS2 upscale, I don't get it.

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Don't pay for them, just pirate.

>XIII and XIII-2 have random framerate drops constantly no matter what graphics card you have. I have a 970 and I can't hold 60fps in XIII or XIII-2
just lock it to 30 or anything sub-60 then.

Poor console-2-PC conversion + added visual eye candy effects = easily wrecked performance.

People have been shocked of Type 0 HD, originally a PSP game, genuflecting their GTX 980ti systems, not realizing that higher AA modes enable not only post-processing AA, but also downsampling.

>AAA devs never shill

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Well, it recommends a 980 and I'm running it 1080p max settings on a 970, so its not AS demanding, but the game makes my GPU run hot, so it definitely requires some decent specs at least. You could probably get away with lowering some of the graphics settings on weaker graphics cards though.

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>using 8x MSAA together with SMAA
jesus, and people wonder why their rigs are melting when playing 10yo console games?

i'm actually replaying XIII for the first time in years (not since I platinum'd it on PS3 when it released and i'm enjoying it even more fondly than i remembered. there are a few things that are grating but overall, good game. worth it on sale for sure. i enjoyed xiii-2 and lightning returns even more so i'm looking forward to getting to those.

I have no idea what the fuck post-process AA is

>ff12 is actually 12 years old

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Seriously?
OK, in a nutshell, post-processing is a form of FILTERS the GPU adds on the already rendered image, just before it draws it on your screen. You know all that bloom and blur effects games use these days? All post-processing effects.
Post-processing AA methods, such as FXAA and SMAA, use more or less complex edge and jaggie-detection algorithms to "smartly guess" where in the image you can see jagged edges, after which they add a some form of blur or smudge on top of these lines.

The pro side of this is that since nothing's rendered at higher resolution, as is the case with oldschool AA methods (SSAA, MSAA), the PP-AA methods are very lightweight in comparison, dropping maybe 1-3 frames (in case of FXAA) when enabled.
The potential downside is that depending on the used AA method and their implementation, the PP-AA can cause the whole image to appear a bit blurry, since the edge-detection does not necessarily differentiate between polygonal edges and texture details. Most of PP-AA effects also don't do much about in-model "shimmering" effects, AKA that flickering staircase effect you can see when moving through a game world without AA, because there's no sub-pixel stuff happening when post-processing

SMAA is one of the more advanced variants of the PP-AA methods, and going from 1x to 2 or 4x does improve its accuracy, even add SOME level of sub-pixel smoothing, but at constantly increasing cost of performance.
I'd personally recommend using either ONLY higher quality PP-AA, or mix maximum of 2x MSAA with FXAA or 1x SMAA. That should take care of most jaggies and shimmering effects.

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>Being so paranoid that you think fucking Square Enix came to Sup Forums to ask if Final Fantasy was worth playing
And the government is mind controlling our water, am I right my guy?

Emulate X, it looks better visually. X-2 has extra content despite looking worse so it's probably better to play X-2 HD, but don't buy it fuck those fags.

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7&8 PC area must

Dragon Quest Collection fucking when???

>7&8 PC area must
I agree with 8, but 7 is emulate only, the pc version is so awkward to play

This

how are 13 and 13-2 broken on PC?

All the pre-rendered backgrounds in the game were remade in HD for the remaster. Choosing to play the old version because of shitty looking faces is autistic at best.

III and IV are ports of the DS remasters which are good
V and VI are mobile ports
VII, VIII and IX are all serviceable ports, no where near V and VI levels
X, XII, and the XII trilogy are all fine
XV is also a decent port

you're awkward to play

V and VI are fine ports, you fucking autist. "muh sprites and tiling"

"muh ui"

Except that X didn't have prerendered backgrounds and the shittiness of the "HD" remaster doesn't stop at the faces.

X did have CGI backdrops but there weren't many of them. It's therefore NOT worth trading botched cutscenes for them. Even the environments in the HD release are shit tier and the FMV cutscenes are CROPPED.

The ui in 6 is unbearably shit and I can tolerate most FF things as is

This is why devs don't include MSAA anymore, because retards put it to 8x & then cry it's "unoptimized"

13 works fine, 13-2 and Zodiac Age have some bizzare frame rate drops in some locations, but it doesn't affect the combat at all, so I would not call that broken.

You can emulate it at like 6k and it runs fine.

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