/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Previously on: Welcome to /fglt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.

There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:

0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux

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Resources:
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Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will work on various distros, including Debian)
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php

Other urls found in this thread:

appdb.winehq.org/
youtube.com/watch?v=sbWOPF6_Pp8
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/beginners'_guide
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

linux

I want to do gpu passthrough on a vm. I got so far with ubuntu as setting the vm up and then trying to install the gpu. I got passed posting but the os would lockup when trying to boot up. It occurs to me that I couldnt switch gpus without reinstalling or doing some surgury. So it just occured to me that maybe I need to have both gpus installed at the time of installing the os.

Is that true?

Also in gnome/ubuntu 15.10 I was able to install windows 10 on a drive and install ubuntu after on another drive and the intaller took care of everything in order to dual boot. Even grub was set up nice so I could choose the os when booting up. Can I assume that will still work in 16.04?

Linux is getting waaaay too mainstream

Which BSD flavor should I use?

...

How much of a pain in the ass actually is it to maintain Arch? I don't mind spending a few hours setting it up but people make it sound like a major timesink in general.

>BSD
>use

lol, you can't ``use'' BSD.

just walked into the wrong neighborhood nigga

>GNU Bash
>Linux penguin
dropped

I work for a company making a more or less poorly managed Linux branch of their software and I want to start testing the shit out of it. What distros do you guys think a software should be tested on?

any of you guys use lili usb creator?
on the final step there is an "options" button but nothing happens when i click it
is it the same for everybody?

Nice more like this.

Also help.

How many other OS's uses GNU Bash, Stallman?

Depends on the software. If its for a desktop or laptop Ubuntu and maybe mint.

Most things that come to linux aim for ubuntu and its flavors.

If its server you need to step up to wider array of distros.

If its desktop software no one would blink at coming out ubuntu only. You can add more later if you want. Ubuntu standard gnome/ubuntu kde which is ubuntu plassma mint as well.

Linux doesn't use Bash. If you weren't a tech illiterate, you'd know why.

I'm not Stallman! I would never post on Sup Forums!

What do you mean? bash is the default shell on most Linux distros, and when it isn't it's still preloaded.

I use busybox with zsh

Please... not again.

everyone talks about pacman fucking up your xorg.conf, wtf does this mean, what happens when it "breaks"? i've enver had a problem running pacman -Syu where it breaks something

I want to create a .zip of each folder in a directory with just the folder's files in each .zip. this is so I can import them into calibre as CBZ's
how do I do this on windows? I'd post in /sqt/, but /fglt/ seems more apt to this problem.

>friendly
The penguin is the mascot of the linux kernel. The kernel doesn't have an interface. Since bash is a GNU tool, it should be the GNU logo.

I was told it was mostly used on CentOS and Redhat. It has both server and front-end GUI applications. I read somewhere that Fedora is close to Redhat, so that's on my list along with CentOS, Ubuntu because it's widely used and Arch to see how it works on a more barebone OS.

What is Mint? How does it compare to other distros?

>how do I do this on windows?
No idea, but on GNU/Linux you just:
for i in *; do zip -r "$i" "$i".zip; done
Come home buddy, windows is evil. :^)

>how do I do this on windows?
see

>>for i in *; do zip -r "$i" "$i".zip; done
Actually
for i in *; do zip -r "$i".zip "$i"; done

Mint is a slightly more distant flavor of ubuntu. Just known as linux mint pretty sure there is not much different between the two behind the scenes.

Might as well fire up some vms and try them all. Especially if the software does not require a gpu to be passthrough like photoshop of games.

>arch installation got really fucked after a few months after I fucked with some configs I don't remember
>installed windows just because I needed something that just werks

Ok boys, I'm finally going back to Linux. After my Windows 7 installation fucking up yet again, and my lack of desire to use Windows 8 and not wanting to use 10 (muh privacy). I'm going to try and go back to Linux. I used it years ago when I was like 17, mainly Ubuntu/Mint and then Debian. Is there any real reason not to use Ubuntu. I haven't been following Linux since I left, but I know back then there wasn't but this was before the whole Amazon spyware thing a while back.

(Also if anyone plays WoW/League on Linux and can say how well it works that'd be helpful too. But I doubt anyone here does)

But the penguin is cooler. Has way more personality as well.

Might as well let that thing labor in the field.

Ubuntu is just fine, but recently desktop versions have suffered since canonical is focusing on mobile development more
WoW and League are pretty high on WINE's compatibility list
appdb.winehq.org/

Thanks for the advice broseph. If you think there's any other distro I should include, please advise. Otherwise I'll stick to the list I made.

>try to install Debian
>A step has FAILED: Select and Install software (it did this like 5 times)

>Try to install Funtoo
>X11 doesn't work, at all

>Install Arch
>Everything just works out of the box

So where does all the hate for Arch come from?

What is the best text editor for GNU/Linux?

You fucked up if you didn't get X11 working on funtoo, it's really simple.
Most people just get tired of fan boys like you spreading crap about other distros.

gedit

>focusing on mobile development more
EVERYTHING IS TURNING TO SHIT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO MAKE IT "mobile-friendly"

Sup Forums hates Arch because tripfagging desktop thread weebs run it. They pretty much ruined the distros reputation.

Nope, Funtoo fucked up.

I ran startx and it didn't do shit. It said it couldn't connect to my display even though I specified intel in my make.conf

arch users are notorious elitists

no one likes those types of people

>all people who %s are bad

I see, thanks. Is the Amazon thing still on by default or have they gotten rid of it due to the backlash?

Also, with the new expansion for WoW coming up. I'm assuming I'd have to wait for it to be supported via WINE before I could play it?

Also
>focusing on mobile development more
W H Y

Ok son, sure.

Two extremely popular distros failed on very basic steps yet for you yet apparently the magical arch works fine. Whatever you say.

And what about the Arch users that don't give a fuck about any of that stuff?

>I see, thanks. Is the Amazon thing still on by default or have they gotten rid of it due to the backlash?
I don't know, it's easily removeable though
>Also, with the new expansion for WoW coming up. I'm assuming I'd have to wait for it to be supported via WINE before I could play it?
no idea

those are the cool ones. nothing bad to say about those.

>emerge xorg-server
>emerge x11 package
Hmmm they installed fine, so not sure why startx wouldn't have worked.

>>I see, thanks. Is the Amazon thing still on by default or have they gotten rid of it due to the backlash?
It's still there, but not enabled by default anymore.

Jesus christ

youtube.com/watch?v=sbWOPF6_Pp8

lol that compiz, it's like i'm in 2008

I puked in my mouth

I'd just like to interject for a moment. There is something especially female users should know about me.

Speaking of Arch. I'm the guy who posted .

I just popped the Arch Linux iso into Virtual Box and it's literally just a shell.

What the fuck?

...

Now you install Arch.
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/beginners'_guide

arch is so great you have to use a 3rd party installer written in spaghetti bash

No, you just use your eyes.

every time i set up a new linux box i get better at it
loving this
this time i had the bright idea to copy my .vimrc and .bashrc
still had to install git and clone vundle though... i should automate that

I recently did an upgrade to dist-upgrade and this shit happened. I have no idea what's going on, maybe a reinstall to the arc theme will fix it?

If you can't install Arch, you don't need Arch.
Choose a beginner distro.

I last used Ubuntu in 2012, and I quit using it because it was a memory hog and very bloated. I was getting better performance on win7.

Has it gotten any better since then? If not is there an alternative linux distro that is accessible to a beginner?

Kids these days need everything spoon fed to them. I swear next generation everyone will be illiterate.

it is a great feeling that.

arch is a beginner distro, good for learning the shell and nothing else

It did, all's good.

fuck off busyboxfag

Who is the other guy?

>still buthurt

I tried typing install arch and install arch please and it started making fun of me. This is not a very professional development platform.

Have you tried to turning it off and on again?

You can still run them but they're unprivledged verions and systemd wont acknowledge their existance,causing further problems

NO PAJEET THAT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA

If you are going to have to support it then ubuntu because you will get most support requests from ubuntu cucks who can't rtfm

Ubuntu is great, just pick a lighter DE depending on the specs of your computer. I'm running Unity on a Thinkpad X220 now and it's running great, though I have an i5 and 8gb of RAM.

If you want a lighter experience, go for Ubuntu MATE. Ubuntu is still the best all around linux distro, but fedora is also quite easy to use if you're willing to do some config/enabling 3rd party repositories at first.

ed is the standard editor

How to use GNU/Linux but stay /fit/ at the same time?

Thats gtk3 3.20 for you.

I cant even get the darker version to work,it just loads the whtie version

/fit/ is depricated. Virtual reality is the future.

you don't, now go away

I think you mean linux.

start by not calling it gnu/linux

nope. only unix users can

I am still installing Arch. This is the longest-ass fucking Linux installation ever. It's downloading literally everything it installs off reps, which doesn't make sense because a normal installation takes about 800 mb and the disc is about 700 mb. What is all that shit on the disc for?

>the kernel is downloading at 40 kb/s

why isn't the fucking kernel on the installation disc

It is

u wot m8

>40 kb/s
i was dreaming of such speeds back in 56k days

I -Syu once a week and nothing has broken, without user error on new configs migration

Unless the distro changes your shell, its /bin/sh

I dont have an xorg.conf
If you have an xorg.conf,your system is old and
misconfigured.

Limewire low res picture porn.

People these days have no idea what they have.

When following the instructions on the Arch Linux website, it download the kernel off the repositories. The disc only serves as a shell Live CD to partition my disc, do some premilinary config then literally install the entire distro through fucking pacman.

It hasnt seriously broken for a couple years. I however know people who keep a vm copy of their shit and update that before their actual machine just to make sure. Also they got familiar with how to undo a update just in case and keep copies of the old packages for about three updates back.

Alright guys,

So I just finished an Arch install and have Xfce installed with GDM as a display manager. What are some other must have software?

whatever you need

Total Linux newbie here. I'm building a new PC at the end of the month once I get my paycheck. I've never used linux before because I'm worried about running games with it. Am I just a moron? Is it easy as shit to get games made for windows to run on linux? Enlighten me please.

wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software

Depends on what games. Some have official linux support, some work fine through wine, some work though wine but run like shit, some not at all, etc.

How do I find out what games will work?

appdb would be a great place...