Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook). ---- If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance). Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models: T420 - 14", normal size X220 - 12.5", lightweight ---- Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops) >Used machines are plentiful and cheap. >Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet. >Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels. >Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models. >Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop. >Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain. >The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad. >Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support. ---- Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide: ktgee.net/tpg
It makes it much nicer to use low res displays like you get on the x220 or the x230 i have. More vertical space to work with and not wasting horizontal space to a taskbar that is to wide. I could have the taskbar auto hide like i used to on OSX but i never liked doing that.
Logan Brown
x260 and t460p will bully pretty much any other laptop in terms of battery life. They are not bad options but they are quite expensive new.
Dominic Ortiz
Is the T460 or T460s any decent?
Isaac Young
they are all decent, t460s apparent has a shorter key throw than the other 2, if i was buying a thinkpad brand new though I would look into the t460p as it comes with a full power mobile chip rather than the piss weak ULV cpus that the T460 and T460s use. Also you should be able to get dedicated gpus in them if you care about that.
Anthony Ross
Sounds pretty damn awesome, actually. The only thing that is turning me off is the fact that I can get a 1TB nvme with an X1 Carbon and not on the T460p. Also, while I'm not a "muh thin" freak, I'm worried that a T460p will be a tad too thick for my tastes since I'll have it in a carrying case and walking around for hours with it at a time. Any way you could address these concerns for me?
Asher Phillips
Well I carry an older T420 daily and the T460p is 5mm thinner and a full 0.9lbs lighter.
I don't think you'll have much problems.
Also, buying them with a larger SSD preinstalled is usually just a waste of money, you can probably buy a 1TB SSD for less and install it yourself.
Christian Carter
While I've built a bunch of towers, I've never messed with the guts of a laptop. Hopefully I'll be able to work my clumsy hands around it well enough. Thanks for your help.
Hunter Lee
So my T420 came in and the 9-cell it has only lasts about an hour before dying. Should I bother replacing it? I also noticed when I have the battery plugged in Speccy reads my CPU temp as 60-75c as well as the mainboard temp. But if I remove the battery the CPU temp goes down to ~40-45c.
I assume the battery has a temp sensor and that is what it was reporting while it was plugged in.
Jaxson Jackson
How does t410 compare to t420. Obviously the cpu is over a dozen percent faster, but beside that? Is t420 worth 50 bucks extra?
Brayden Clark
The integrated graphics in the base T420 is better than the dedicated GPU in the T410. So if you're doing anything with HD video playback or light gaming or whatever, you'll want the T420.
Joshua Jenkins
well i didn't get scammed and it's in great condition. installing debian now, feeling super pleased. thanks for making me see the light /tpg/.
Andrew Cox
my nigga. T420 with Debian Sid is truly the best
Tyler Russell
>have Arch installed on x220 for a few months >finally decide to do a pacman -Syu because it's been too long >reboot and wifi support is now noexistant.. WTF?
I was really starting to think the "pacman breaks shit" meme was just a meme until now, never had a problem with multiple machines running Arch for about a year. Now it screws up wifi on a thinkpad of all things?
Colton Green
hello g
>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
I've found a Latitude E5450 (i5 5300U, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD, 14" IPS @1366x768, accidental damage till 6/18) for 400 euros.
Should I go for it? Everything seems perfect for the price, but this 1366x768 holds me back... What should i do guys??
Benjamin Martin
Why am I only getting 6hours out of my 9cell x200s?
These guys are getting 12, sometimes 15 hours worth of battery life.
Jaxon Garcia
I've been running Arch for a few months on an X220 as well. Nothing's broke, but I update daily.
Xavier Edwards
>7 days since paying >still not shipped despite "2 day handling time and next day shipping" >seller won't respond to my messages >has sold about 5 chinkpads in the past month with positive feedback >ebay won't let me start a dispute yet
what do? Hold on for a while in case their dog's died and they're too distraught to send a quick reply or politely ask them to hurry things along again with a veiled threat of a dispute?
Asher Foster
>use rolling release OS >never update literally why? It's all your fault. If that's your style, switch your OS for something with longer update cycles, like Ubuntu.
Jordan Johnson
Do old ThickBads like before T420 reads sdxc cards that are 128gb and above?
Jonathan Myers
what are you doing on it, it could also be that your 9 cell is on the way out.
Gabriel Price
see if there is an alternate screen available otherwise i would probably pass on something at that size with 1366x768.
Parker Barnes
Hm, thanks. Though I would imagine t410 would be enough for HD vids and I didn't expect any gaming performance anyway.
Matthew Perry
shitposting, listening to music or watching videos
have linux on it. Is 6hours normal for ebay 9cells?
Ryan Taylor
My T420 can't do youtube 720p 60 or 1080p 60, so I wouldnt count on the T410 doing too much.
Noah Thomas
if its a chink 9 cell then i would say yes. People getting good times are probably on legit 9 cells. See if your eligible for the free battery if you still have or old one and maybe that will get better life.
Nolan Martin
alrighty, thanks
Lucas Jackson
>tfw I found a way to use the ThinkVantage button in Windows10
Liam Morales
pls share, i have been trying to get the on one my x230 to work since i got it.
I know, I dual boot Xubuntu and Windows, and the ThinkVantage button is useful. Lenovo were cunts for removing the feature and making people seek alternatives.
This is much better than hacking the registry (which worked under win7 but doesn't work with win10 anymore, as the thinkvantage button entry is completely gone).
Andrew Jackson
My desktop 965BE can't do youtube 1080/60. Which is ridiculous, because it did 4k easily till they did something with their service.
Matthew Edwards
My desktop is a 5820k so I have no issues, there.
Hopefully youtube can improve performance on lower end systems
Benjamin Moore
I use mine to launch terminals. I've got a buddy who set his to update his system.
Matthew Morris
getting my recall battery for my x220 its a 6 cell what can i expect in terms of battery life
Jace Reed
5-6 hours of light use.
Brody Gray
Not that user, but I get that kind of life with the 4 cell on Linux.
Brandon Diaz
I hear 9 cell gives about 9-10 hours, so I gave a rough estimate of 6 cell. Dunno how it is in real life, though.
Samuel Watson
It's worth noting that my 4 cell is brand fucking new, as well.
Matthew Jones
And my 6 cell is dead and barely does 3 hours. Can't wait for my new 9 cell.
Michael Gomez
I recently replaced my failing 6 cell. It's refreshing to be able to untether from the wall. Hope your battery is in good shape user.
James Wilson
My 9 cell on my x230 is at 85% capacity and does 9h with light use like browsing the web or listening to music.
4h with heavy use like playing a game or using heavy CAD software (rendering included).
Nathan Anderson
>save up to buy new computer after 8 year old desktop bricks >been running potato-compatible distros on it for the last 2 years >family pleads with me to get a macbook air because "I'm a masters student" and "its what dedicated students need" >spend 350$ on refurbished t420 (in canadian cuckbucks, approx 270$ american) >spend 100$ upgrading specs >install debian without a single fucking issue (is this even possible???) >I now have 750$ to spare THANK YOU BASED THINKPAD
Levi White
>9-cell battery >lasts 1 hour and 10 minutes of light use
d-d-do I need a new one?
Liam Mitchell
y-yeah..
Jordan Carter
The 2520m is a sandy bridge i5
Jackson Young
Does it exist a smaller charger for thinkpad, like pic related?
I got a new macbook retina, but my hands have started hurting because the keyboard is kinda weird, so i figured i should go back to my X61, but i would love to have a smaller charger desu
Joshua Taylor
60w travel charger is as small as they get. Personally, I carry around the 90W because I'm not a pansy.
Nicholas Smith
Does the phone charger with a plug adapter really charge the macbook?
Ryder Brooks
yes, it's pretty innovative
Juan Russell
Had this issue before. Turns out the seller didn't update with tracking info. Wait it out and open a case. If you're impatient and have money to spend start looking for alternatives in case this guy flakes.
Ryder Baker
>macbook It's closer to an iPad with a keyboard than to a laptop, so yes.
Jordan Martinez
Is there a way to tell, short of description or asking the seller, what resolution a T420 comes with?
Im a CE student and I really need a laptop for programming and small engineering simulations.
Are thinkpads still worth buying or will you spend a fortune adding a ssd, 8gb ram and non shitty battery?
Another problem is that i cant decide between the x220 and t420, i want something light weight with good battery life and my current laptop is 13" but 15" seems too big and 12" too small
Jose Rodriguez
>want a convertable laptop because I heavily enjoy drawing whilist and I spend 5 days out of 7 away from my computer >oh man the x220T/x230T seems grea- >screensize is meh (could be fixed by mod), sensors are 100% ass at the edges and nobody decided to make a ghetto calibration fix where you get 30 touch points near the edges of the screen >to double up on that there's nearly no good sales on ebay (missed out on one of the best because import fees would've been 40% of the price) >toshiba tablet laptops flat out don't exist anywhere for some reason So far my only options are to either wait with a thumb up my ass or buy one of these shitty overheating tablet laptops.
Where did the market for this kind of shit go?
Joseph Morris
>a single goddamn inch difference is "too small"
Christopher Williams
The X220 is 12.5" and the T420 is 14"... It will take you 10 min to get over the difference from 13" whatever you choose.
>Are thinkpads still worth buying or will you spend a fortune adding a ssd, 8gb ram and non shitty battery? Of course you will have to spend extra if it's not already included and you really want it.
Ian Lopez
x60t and swap the 1400x1050 display in.
Lincoln Hernandez
go for the x60, it's still 12", but it has a better screen ratio so it feels like 15"
and get a desktop for your simulations, just ssh into it. running serious simulations on a laptop is retarded anyway because of the amount of heat and noise it will generate
Lincoln Green
Just gives me drivers. I think the screen is either 1366 x 760 or 1600 x 900. Obviously I would want the latter since I have feeble eyes.
Anthony Ramirez
I wish, the GPU and CPU of the x60T are a no no for my line of work and also I dabble in a few shitty MMOs from time to time.
Has anyone done any research into the whole idea of switching out a pressure screen behind the x230T's screen with a different one?
Cooper Hughes
Do NOT install this creates mustard gas...
Isaiah Carter
>using a 10 year old 32 bit laptop with shit battery life
kys
John Rogers
I took apart my x60 once. I was never able to get the cable management back to normal.
Samuel Martinez
>he fell for the 64bit meme 3gb of ram is enough for everybody. also, my x60 running GNU/Linux and openbox is faster than your 64bit windows
Eli Smith
Doesnt help when they list the incorrect model. Listing said 1600x900, model said 1600x900, unit received was 1366x768, baka. Knocked $60 off for that. Also was supposed to come with 8GB of RAM but came with 4GB instead, knocked another $40 off.
Total paid around $120 including shipping and fees.
Just replaced the 4GB it came with with 2x8GB DDR3, was an easy upgrade.
Elijah Hernandez
t420 shipping hasn't updated since yesterday at 7am
I want an update mannn
Jayden Hernandez
Why do thinkpads have so bad screen resolution? I was looking at a x230 with IPS display and it's resolution was fucking 1366x768. Is that resolution good enough with ips?
Mason Nguyen
Because that's apparent what most people wanted. I find it tolerable so long as it's IPS.
Jose Green
Wont your eyes go bad while coding at that resolution?
Dominic Hill
You get used to it. Shit, we all used 640x480 and 800x600 for years, remember?
Ethan King
Computer Science freshman here. Will it be useful if I buy one of these? or I should stick with the good ol' laps?
Parker Gutierrez
Actually that's higher ppi than 24" 1080p
Blake Diaz
Nothing helps when they lie to you on what they're selling. Complain about it, PayPal will side with you and you could get most of your money back if not a full refund.
Hunter Cruz
The tabs at the top of the website change what aspect of the model you're viewing.
Sebastian Morris
How are you enjoying your day user?
Easton Moore
Go away, windowsfag.
Noah Hughes
and here i was thinking i could get away with it
Zachary Howard
I'll have a better day when I see you wiping your keyboard clean of that dust
Tyler Long
>Things that never happened
Hunter Perez
>T420 can't do youtube 720p 60 I find this hard to believe, since 720p @ 60 fps is effectively the same as 1080p @ 30 fps.
Easton Collins
and what does the MTM say? (tp.krelay.de/index.php, paste the machine type and click Search)
