>tfw 10 core android phones will be coming out
>tfw 6GB ram
>tfw the cpu is probably faster than my desktop
>tfw the phone has more ram than my desktop
What the fuck?
I feel like technology is progressing faster than I can keep track of it.
My current desktop is an i3 2120 with 4GB ddr3 ram. Makes me feel bad 2bh.
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And still, the fact that it doesn't run full Linux/Windows and lack of keyboard limits it every possible way.
I wish I could have a phablet running win7 and linux with one of those fancy little bluetooth keyboards and 10h battery life.
You can install linux on it. You can also plug in a keyboard if you want.
You can use an otg adapter to pretty much turn it into a tiny pc, and isn't android just a modified Linux? So your terminal should still work.
Thats because android has shit optimization and needs a nuclear reactor to do what iOS does with a watermill
Funny how android phones with weak as shit processors and 1GB ram manage to run just fine.
Yeah, that's true.
How is the performance on that though? Would it hold a candle to actual desktop/laptop hardware?
Single thread is almost on par with a9 and SD820, multithread is much better though.
Would probably outperform my old i3, not sure about Modern hardware.
This, everyone falls for the flagship meme.
1gb devices with any SOC from the past few years are still capable of doing anything I need on a phone.
Forgot image.
It trails behind in antutu though because mediatek have weaker GPUs. It's not bad, the others are just better, the CPU is better though.
Then why didn't you get a Nokia 3310?
>nokia 3310
Why would I fall for the flagship meme?
Are you okay user?
Bump
Just wait for the Surface Phone.
Battery should actually be pretty good since its 6000mah
Nope. I had a 1gb ram, mtk8735 tablet and it is already showing its age.
For starter, I can't get LTE connection out of it, which is necessary because it also doubles as a modem. The lags becomes more and more obvious and I can't properly browse Sup Forums with more than 5 opened tabs
>tfw the cpu is probably faster than my desktop
Highly unlikely.
Latest 10 core ARM processors can't trade blows or beat a dual core 5 year old Intel?
Yeah, no.
Yeah, I doubt they can. It's hard to compare different architectures, but I doubt you'll get more FLOPS.
It doesn't matter it's 5x more cores, each of those cores has pretty low performance compared to, say, sandy bridge.
Nigga you what?
Considering the apple a9 gets pretty close to modern laptop x86, i wouldn't be surprised if this did offer similar multithread performance.
I have Windows 10 running on my Zenfone 2 :-)
>more cores = performance!
It's not?
Sure, the arm cores are weaker, but there are 10 of them, vs the 2 x86 cores...
>geekshit
I can bet that CPU performance is just being inflated by a giant SHA1 score, which has absolutely 0 real world use.
Wouldn't it still be a realistic comparison against other ARM chips?
Yeah, Samsung and Qualcomm uses the same SHA1 score cheat on Geekbench.
Apple has an inflated SHA2 score.
Yup, cellphone hardware is starting to outpace it's shitty mobile toy OSes and "apps". Started happening with the S7 Edge, really.
So you're saying a flagship arm core can't offer one fifth the performance of a 5 year old Intel chip?
>2018
>12 core snapdragon
>3.5ghz clock speed
>16gb RAM
>Run Android PajeetsPoop
>Still lags
The x20 in OPs image has 4 of the cores focused only on low power consumption at 1.5GHz. Only two of them run at 2.5GHz and the other 4 at 2.0GHz. I highly doubt that a big little concept gets similar performance as an I3 @3.3 GHz.
EPIC BRO EPIC XDDDD
Also here's a Geekbench breakdown.
The 8 core Exynos on the Galaxy S7 barely even matches 2 cores on a 7 year old Lenovo with a Core 2 Duo.
Fair enough. What about the helioX10? That's not big/little, Is it?
All modern chips are.
No it isn't.
Jezus PPL saying ARM cortex octa core @ 1.6 ghz is faster than i5 is Just act of lack in technology knowlege... Its just ARM... It is good for phones but you still cant run heavy load apps on it... My God just read about it :x this pieces of cpus are still verry slow. I would compare them to first gen i3 or less mby Intel Pentium 4? Just try to install Linux on it and try to stream at fhd with 60fps and run aby game on it. It Will be killed.
ARM is a piece of microcontroller for me. Just Google about cypress psoc.
Tell me Why even New smartphones sometimes get laggy... Its just another platform and never ever compare it to PC becouse its not PC... Its like comparing buses to pendolino train. Or smth
Smartphones are personal computers brah
they run like shit. I should know, I own one. lagdroid, never again
We have to wait for the x30 to see a performance focused processor from mtk. The x10 couldnt even compete with the sd801.
Smartphones are phones that looks like computer Ohh god dude in my post im trying to tell you that comparing it to pc's is stupid. Mby we have different look at computer... PPL years ago asking calculators as computers so...
which one?
My Samsung S2 still runs mostly fine.
I'm about to upgrade though, since it is almost 5 years old now.
Sauce?
No one with a minimal understanding of technology thinks mobile processor which are focused on low power consumption can compete with tower cpus.
>Adding more cores to get higher benchmark scores without any actual real world meaning as most apps are unoptimized pieces of shit that do simplistic tasks that can't utilize 10 cores ever.
Some PPL does thats sad
How about handling background processes?
Iirc android has 20 background processes running most of the time.
Petition to make Qualcomm, Samsung, MediaTek, Apple etc stop their progression because OP is being triggered.
They take a fraction of a percent even on the lowest CPU frequency.
...
You can't just multiply by the number of cores user
Mobiles CPUs are still inferior to PC CPUs. Cores aren't everything.
It worked for AMD.
So this makes me wonder: if phones are as powerful as PCs, how come phones don't have fans?
>zenpad won't get unlocked
Still mad
No
Arm is fucking trash
Technology between the 70's and the early 200's was progressing very rapidly. There plenty of 'boom periods' in history where technology has evolved a lot over a few years, but in my opinion nothing measures to the boom of the 70's.
Y tho
Because it is. Fuck you.
It's octa-core A53, which is a LITTLE core. So that's even worse than 4x big 4x LITTLE like, say, SD810.
>>tfw the cpu is probably faster than my desktop
It's not
>>tfw the phone has more ram than my desktop
You can upgrade RAM on a desktop, 8GB DDR3 RAM sticks are like $30 on amazon
>I feel like technology is progressing faster than I can keep track of it.
It's really not, phones have dogshit processors like always.
>My current desktop is an i3 2120 with 4GB ddr3 ram. Makes me feel bad 2bh.
Which is way more powerful than any flagship android out there and supports x86 proframs and OSs.
Basically this is how shit ARM processors are:
4x krait 400 ARM cores @ 2.3 GHz ~= 4x atom moorefield x86 cores @ 2.3 GHz
4x atom moorefield x86 cores @ 2.3 GHz ~= 1 sandy bridge x86 core @ ~3 GHz
Anyway those "cores" on that phone cannot all be used at once. Only a cluster of 4 A53 or a cluster of 2 A72 cores can be used at the same time. So AT BEST that phone will have the multi-core performance of a single sandy bridge x86 core (the one used in your i3, which has 2 at 3.2 GHz) if it was clocked at 3GHz or maybe lower if the 2 A72 cores on that phone ran at max frequency constantly (protip: they won't). Those clusters of 4 A53 cores suck ass btw as A53 are weaker than krait 400 cores.
This is in addition to not being able to run x86 software or OSs which is what mainly makes your desktop superior. Want to encode HEVC video/ play very graphically demanding vydia? Only a desktop can do that or $2,000+ gaymen laptops.
tl;dr ARM is a piece of shit
tfw my 11 year old thinkpad never goes past 80% running flash ads and browsing anything
: /
>11 year old thinkpad
T43?
That's because you never debloated it.
Fuck when did mediatek get so good?
Last i checked they were slow as fuck housefires in pocket
there's only so much you can do on a phone
I wish they'd just make a smartphone with the specs of LG G3 but a far longer battery life, maybe fit in a better camera in there as well
but noooo, gotta make them as thin as a handkerchief and with a processor as "good" as a macbook's
This is literally me
>pc from 2005
>2gb ram, dual core 2.0 ghz, slightly better gpu
>crashes on Deep Sky Stacker
:(
>Jezus PPL saying ARM cortex octa core @ 1.6 ghz is faster than i5 is Just act of lack in technology knowlege... Its just ARM...
Which is RISC which is basically every x86 CPU after the K6-III
>apps
back to le redit
>.. My God just read about it :x this pieces of cpus are still verry slow. I would compare them to first gen i3 or less mby Intel Pentium 4?
Where you even born when the P4 was launched? The only worse thing than a P4 are the first Atom's
>Just try to install Linux on it
Lotsa' people have done it, some guy here was running Gentoo on his HTC HD2
>and try to stream at fhd with 60fps
They literally record at 4K@60p nowadays
They can SW decode HEVC at 1080@60p
> and run aby game on it. It Will be killed.
Any emulator runs just fine, since the 1 Ghz Krait's you could run PSPSPP perfectly fine
My Nexus 7 2012 scared me away from 1gb Android devices until I got a Moto G 2015 with 1gb which ran beautifully.
Turns out there's more than just the number, ASUS used shittier parts and the entire experience was degraded because of it.
nvidia tegra 3 is shit processor
if you got 2013 with snapdragon
you good to go for another 5 years
If phones had fans there would be a weird vibration when just running the damn thing. Plus with the increase in popularity of thinner phones could you really find a fan thats thin enough to put in a closed shell?
less than 6 months ago I was still using a single-core 1.6GHz Pentium M.
>tfw one process starts hogging the cpu and UI slows down
They did, minus the camera and the 1440p screen, and it's called a Redmi Note 3 Pro.
They really aren't, as multiple anons pointed out already. Also, mobile SOCs are designed with energy efficiency in mind, meaning they won't get nearly as hot and can be passively cooled.
Also this.
>using the smiley with a dash nose
>tfw the cpu is probably faster than my desktop
Stupid normalfag.
>tfw Android will still work like shit
Modern ARMv8 cores like A72s can compete with the latest Atom chips from intel favorably, and they can trade blows with low clocked Broadwell CoreM.
They can't compete head to head with a big core.
Does k6000 p 9 have 4g?
What?
Does the oukitel K6000 Premium have 4g compatibility?
yes, but check willmyphonework dot net to see if it'll work with your network
>tfw still using tegra 2
Current phones getting close to those 10 years old 1Ghz Athlons
It is, though. Just because you're a shitty programmer who can't take advantage of it, doesn't mean it isn't good.
But SBCs with weak as shit specs seem to be able to run Linux distros fine?
All that power with such a completely shitty OS.
Whats the point.
Android = Linux
There will be a completely new generation of VR ready android phones, because of Google Daydream. 3d VR needs processing power.
>10 cores
For what fucking reason jesus christ you ain't going to play fucking gta 4 on that thing. Mobile cpus are garbage too, adding more cores would just drain the battery faster.
>10 cores
>still slower than dualcore a9
Intead of worrying about spending your money on the latest and greatest, keep using your devices until YOU feel it has become obsolete. We're at a point where our devices are still just as good and usable if they're a generation or two behind.
It's big.medium.little
So it should have good battery life, mediatek goes overboard with everything, their last gen processors were true 8 core. No big.little
It is?
well especially since it's big med little then of course it's going to be slower than the a9
This is soc we're talking about. Each core will be dedicated to processing a single task. One core for graphics, another for sound, third for gyroscope or whatever. More cores isn't inherently bad, in fact it can be more energy effcient rather than dumping everything on a general purpouse CPU that will choke like a bitch.
Are you sure?
its ironic so its okay r-right g-guys
No, fuck off
>s2 dies with half battery
does anyone even sell s2 batteries anymore? might have to upgrade now, is nexus the least worst option currently?
>I don't know what architectures are
Get a chinkphone. Cheaper than nexus but still stock ui.