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Intel is truly FINISHED AND BACKRUPT
ZEN
Coming never to a store on earth
I'll believe it when I see it, which is going to be never.
The only thing I'm looking forward to are the excuses.
So it has slower single core speed than a 4690K?
Really amazing for sure.
There's no way benchmarks will even come close to being that fast. it would take at least 10 years to double current CPUs.
Zen will be like all amd offerings 80% of Intel's low end CPUs.
Problem is, amd has half the ipc of Intel right now. If they truly match Intel ipc and offer as many cores as before then it truly can be twice as fast
>8 cores
>64 PCIe lanes
>USB 3.1
>NVMe
>$300
It's over lads.
Where did you find that msrp? Your imagination?
Who cares, zen isn't exciting because of it being super fast. Zen is exciting because it has the speed of a broadwell processor, 8 cores, nvme, usb 3.1 etc all at the attractive price point of $300. Good luck trying to get a processor like that from intel at $300.
Same place as he finds tomorrow's street deposits.
Again, where are you getting the price? Just wishful thinking?
They confirmed the processor lineups. Here: news.ycombinator.com
No price on that article. Just some faggot posting $300 in the comments.
you're done, intel cuck!
No msrp listed, just amdrones shouting into their echo chamber.
AMD has no reason to undercut Intel that much. If Intel is charging 1k for 8 cores, AMD can still undercut them by 20% and still have a good value at @$800.
Except AMD has released 8 core processors at $400 before, so $300 is very possible.
>no reason to undercut Intel that much
intel is getting rekt, fagboy!
>AMD has released 8 core processors
user...
>4 x 2MB L2 Cache
>4
that should be your hint
>8 half cores
They priced it so aggressively because a 4 core Intel is equal to 8 core AMD. Giving them away. Now they *might* have a competitive product, they won't be priced so bargain basement prices. They are in the red financially, and need cash.
I have a FX 8350, wait for zen? or get a 6600k and motherboard and ram equivalent?
are you fucking stupid?
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6600k owner here. I would say wait. Your CPU is fine for another few months, kaby lake is around the corner, along with Zen.
thats not really an answer?
investors love relative graphs
Ghz mean nothing they are just a marketing scheme there are instruction kits that have a much slower tick tock but perform more effectively than others with more speed.
>I am fucking stupid
ok then
>4 half cores + 4 half cores
Top kek even worse than 3.5GB + 0.5GB.
still not an answer.
>worse than 3.5GB + 0.5GB
not really; found the nvidiot tho
as much as love AMD but 300$ for an octacore with ht that can battle with intel is pure wishfull thinking, it would hurt amd to not take the same money as intel and only undercut them for a few dollars. I don´t know what kids would think that 300$ is economical for such a company, learn business 101 pls
I just want AMD to release a 4 core budget CPU with G3850's single thread performance.
Zen-based Athlon x4 when?
but you just confirmed you're too stupid to understand the answer
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AMD doesn't need 100%+ margins on their HEDT line you stupid twat, it doesn't even need 60% like Intel does on its mainstream one either.
A good chip won't sell, it needs to undercut too.
>as much as
>but
fuck off, intel shill
Maybe, maybe not. There are about a million variables we don't have access to for us to draw, even a speculative assumption
still not an answer, are you retarded enough to not understand how to answer somebody with an actually answer instead of another question?
you retarded m8?
dont bully him
wait til Zen, the FX8350 is absolutely fine for another few months(if not years, cpu tech has done absolute fuck all since)
>dont bully
why the fuck not? because of his mental illness? I don't discriminate and neither should you; you should be ashamed of yourself
The 8350 is fine if you currently own one. It's not a bad processor.
It's just old and wasn't fantastic when new.
Because maybe hes a cute boy, and we can share nudes and fall in love in return for my white knighting
I'll allow it then
like said tard, they max gonna undercut intel for a few dollars but they not gonna trow away they chips like they did in the past with the 8350.
They NEED to make money they are deep in the reds....
its not a maybe its a matter of survival for amd they are all in on Zen, if Zen doesn´t bring in a really good amount of money they can max survive for another 2-3 years, befor they have to sell ATI, they don´t have any assets left worth to sell.
They can´t sell x64 licence.... Everybody even remotly involved in financial sector should know this.
I love AMD, but they have to take more money or they die. and I am happy to pay more.
Fuck I even bought amd shares, lucky me AMD shares are at 4,20 atm so im pretty good, my finger itches to sell because I already make about 250% profit but they gonna raise more for sure in the next few months
I hope they will be in new macs. I dont want to use modified kernels for my future zen hackintosh
>I love AMD
>but
intel shill confirmed
man some of you guys are retarded....welp someday you grow up or not don´t care
8 cores with AMDs own flavor of hyperthread. The equivalent Intel offering costs $1000 pre-tax. This is ground-fucking-breaking stuff.
Are you stupid? This isn't for your gayman shit. Besides that it's competing against Intel's E line which have low clockspeeds to begin with (to minimize temps etc).
you a right and wrong, 1000$ on release now they cost much much less
>Are you stupid? This isn't for your gayman shit.
So?
It doesn't matter its still slower.
Well skylake-E will be released soon enough and it'll have that exact pricetag. Probably lower now that Zen is imminent though, which is a good thing for everybody.
So are intel's E processors. You know what kid just find another thread to shit up ok?
Alright, but don't get amd buffon ;)
Are any of you actually going to buy Zen and what are you using now?
Sadly I got a 6700k two months ago because zen was too far away. Friends wants to build a high-end system for rendering in a couple of months and I'm definitely going to go zen. I'll be switching to zen about this time next year.
i7-4960X, going to be upgrading to Zen
Intel Xeon E5-2699 v3. Will be buying zen on release to replace this shit
Someone needs to update this image then.
What are you using the Xeon E5-2699 v3 for?
Intel Q6600 to Zen. Full poorfag mode.
>.exe
gaymen
You could replace the Q6600 with a Xeon that performs at i5 speeds for about $20 to tide you over.
I just want this system to die so I have an excuse to buy a new one. 8 years I survived on this machine.
That is a lot of cores for gaming, I thought were rendering or something.
Should I get Zen for gaymen? What about later on in laptops too? I will upgrade both at some point, but I'm not in an actual hurry.
I have a Phenom II X2 550 and I don't know if I can wait any longer.
the only true answer: nobody knows
On the price not: we will see what amd going to do with polaris soon. They are in same position with GPU as with CPU marketing wise.
If they undercut Nvidia hard with prices around 250, zen going to be cheap if not then not.
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>Well skylake-E will be released soon enough
No it won't, probably Q3 or 4 2017.
Just how much progress do you delusional fucks think AMD can make? Zen is going to be another mediocre half-core chip with ivy bridge single thread performance. Guarantee it won't compete with Broadwell-E 6 core for the same $400 they will charge for Zen.
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>i72600
No idea, I really want it to be good and cheap enough. If it goes for $400 8-core Haswell perf.(=~skylake, and i'm pretty sure kabylake is a dud like consumer broadwell was).
I really do not want to buy another quadcore.
What are the chances that Intel had developed a brand new architecture years ago and have been sitting on it waiting for AMD to finally catch up to them?
zero
Over zero
Well they've been incrementally improving on the Core architecture for a very long time, over 10 years.
And they are 10 times bigger than AMD if not more.
That would be a waste of money, they do have however developed the most advanced 14nm process and they have already released more than one CPU gen using it, so they should have iron out all the issues and started working on efficiency which is where they are ahead of AMD by two years or so.
>tfw 6350 and waiting for zen
I don't want to give those filthy jews my money but this thing sucks even overclocked
Rockin' a Phenom II X6 1045. I might if there's a significant advantage.
99.999%
Intel's main focus has been developing a way to release chips approximately 10% to 15% better than the last, the art is to increase performance just enough so people will buy it but not so much that they miss another opportunity to sell the same architecture.
but under 0.1%
Amd stock goin strong this few day
>mfw I bought it with the intention of unlocking it and it didn't work
;_;
I would love to have that chip, I have a 3770k and it can't handle multitasking and VM's very well.
investor meeting was nice probably
>there are instruction kits that have a much slower tick tock
black_man_with_question_marks.jpg
Yes, they have secret alien tech. If released to the public, it would bankrupt amd, revolutionise the industry, and send stock to unprecedented levels. They don't release it because they really don't need everyone going out and buying new computers.
Dail reminder that no matter how good a chip AMD put out they will never get more than 0.01% of the market thanks to intel market dominance and oem strangulation
>2 slides from investor presentation
>No mention of comparison to Intel
>Cinebench comparison to 2 generations older AMD hardware
Yeah, Intel sure is finished.
So do we know the price or is it all out of some dumbass's crack?
Will there even be a Zen processor that is much better than that released? Probably not worth it senpai, best be trolling.
Consumers can't make an intelligent decision after all. Intel is literally forcing people at gunpoint to buy their products.
I think everyone was expecting the high-end to be competitively priced with Intel's unlocked i5.
Intel could have released sandy bridge i3s, i5s and I7s with more cores and higher IPCs but why would they, the software isn't ready for the extra cores, the only competition couldn't compete and If they stayed on a 6 month release schedule all the serious video renderers would have to upgrade. Why would they release something good at the expense of sales?
>i'm retarded
zen is their only hope. If they fuck it up, no more amd cpus. They will be out of the game, for good. You think they're thinking about getting rich when they're on the brink of death?
AMD will have to pull something amazing with zen. Expect amazing performance/$ from them.
>Intel is truly FINISHED AND BACKRUPT
Again? Next week it will be AMD. Week after that, Intel again. Yawn.