Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook). ---- If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance). Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models: T420 - 14", normal size X220 - 12.5", lightweight ---- Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops) >Used machines are plentiful and cheap. >Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet. >Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels. >Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models. >Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop. >Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain. >The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad. >Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support. ---- Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide: ktgee.net/tpg
cop or na? In the market for a new ThinkPad since my old x220 bit the dust.
Isaac Hill
I should add I have 8GB of ram and an SSD ready for it.
Blake Davis
I'd go for it, that's a fair price
Thomas Edwards
I fancy that a lot of us here consider ourselves experts at assessing specs and condition from blurry ebay photos.
Anyone want to take a stab at what resolution this is? It's certainly flexview, but I'm not confident to say more than that. OS appears to be Vi$ta if you're trying to judge based on the taskbar.
Too damn blurry, ask for the MTM number R60's had SXGA non IPS panels
Nicholas Johnson
do i need to disable computrace or the other thinkpad settings in the bios?
right now it says that computrace is enabled but isnt activated.
should i disable it or is it fine to leave it alone?
Robert Jenkins
Comparing to my own UXGA T601F, it looks like it could be one. Good find if the seller doesn't want a million dollars for it.
Cooper Phillips
yeah I noticed the condition of the screen is pretty bad. I'll pass on it. Is there a way to replace the trackpad? I have replacement keyboards from my x220's but no pads.
Charles Myers
Oftentimes used palmrests cost just slightly more or the same as a trackpad. Unless the trackpad is physically broken, it has a removable sticker IIRC.
Not so sure on Ivy bridge machines and onward, i forget.
Landon Fisher
good to know. thanks!
Evan Wright
Question: I just got my X220, installing debian and I it prompted me that there's some proprietary software on my that debian can't install. What could be causing this?How do I fix it? Is it even worth fixing?
Brandon Allen
I would assume it's the wireless drivers. Pretty important, I'd say. Search the filename it gives you and you'll find the package you need.
Charles Campbell
I apologize, this is my first time ever using Linux and debian never mentioned any file name in the graphical install.
Also, does anyone here use Libreboot?
Jason Flores
Ah, I never use graphical install when I have the option not to. You'll have to find out just what wireless card you've got and then try to find the corresponding wireless driver.
As for libreboot, it won't work on any Thinkpads after the X200 or T400. Blame Intel for putting botnets in their later processors.
Gavin Walker
Anyone try the Latitude 5470 yet? comparing that to a T460/T460s. Like the thinkpads, but the screen on the latitude seems brighter than the T460.
Gavin Parker
So, what was the last truly great no-compromises Thinkpad?
T60 with 4:3 IPS or something IBM?
Luke Gray
If Libreboot doesn't work, is it the same for coreboot?And is coreboot even free?
Joshua Johnson
Coreboot includes proprietary blobs for hardware compatibility. Libreboot is a fully free Coreboot distribution, that simplifies instillation and strips out the blobs, the cost of that is that you can count the devices it supports on your hands.
Benjamin Hughes
So there's no possible way to liberate my BIOS?
Jordan Barnes
Not on an X220. Intel processors made after 2008 are irreparably compromised, there's nothing you can do about backdoors built into the CPU. If you want a fully Free machine your option are another CPU architecture or 10 year old hardware.
James Diaz
Let's say I do know what file I needed, how do go about fixing this error at installation?
Jordan Morris
T601F is GOAT. >strong Penryn CPU >8GB RAM >SATA II >Advanced Dock >1600x1200 IPS >steel backplate keyboard >3-5 hours of battery life IBM's Thinkpads were great, but they're too old at this point to be good for much more than shitposting, sadly. T601F hits the best balance of specs and quality.
Camden Edwards
go away
Carter Bailey
rude
Luis Sullivan
Odds your chinkpad is stolen, in theory you can be tracked through Conputrace, it's better to disable it
Henry Evans
Are lenovo mice any good?
I got a logitech g100s on sale a few months ago but the fucker died out after a month.
I just need something that won't break.
Gabriel Fisher
>Sacrificing Libreboot for an unnecessary amount of RAM.
Cameron Russell
>no-compromises thinkpad >has to compromise on a usable amount of RAM for muh freedoms
Nathan Lee
Liberty is worth any cost.
Brayden Davis
i was wondering which of the thinkpads by ibm is the most powerful and all around best, thinking about running linux on it because xp possibly is slower,
Daniel Thompson
used one at school. It was a little eccentric, I didn't like it.
Brayden Wilson
Who /t43/ here?
Carter Johnson
Where'd you get this picture of me?
Carson Jones
How much for a X250 or a T450?
Charles Morris
If I'm going to install Linux on my X220t what should I get that's got good tablet/touch support? I've never bothered to use tablet stuff on Linux before so I don't know what the offerings there are like.
Easton Miller
All right guys, question. I got the option to get a X240 with a 1080p IPS display, but I think 12'' are a little small for me since I'm gonna use it on a daily basis.
The other option would be to go for a T4** with a 1600x900 TN display, but all the reviews I read suggest I'll get eye cancer when I go for this, and IPS T4** are too expensive.
Is there a T4** with an IPS panel that I'm not aware of, is the TN panel not that bad actually, or should I get the X240?
Xavier Wood
hey /tpg/ can someone give me some run downs of less apparent pros/cons of w520 vs w530 in the long run?
specifically i wamted to know if there is significant battery life difference(and which is better) and if, in your guys' opinions, the upgrade from 2nd gen quad core i series to 3rd gen core i series is worth the big price jump. i asked in the last thread and got a little butthurt about someone telling me to get an x series but i have good reason to get a powerful 15.4" laptop. this is really just a question of if 3rd gen is worth it.
Xavier Williams
Has anyone had success with a refurbished X220 from Newegg?
Logan Jenkins
Don't forget backdoors built into yout hard drives
Anthony Barnes
i had 2 420s i've been looking to get rid of, i actually sold one to another board member. looks like he received it and left positive feedback too
you want the other one? same stats
Cooper Hall
Don't forget back doors built into your back doors.
Carson Jones
>Is there a T4** with an IPS panel that I'm not aware of A modified T420s with a 1080p IPS screen
>is the TN panel not that bad actually, or should I get the X240? It's probably worse than what you expect it to be (it was for me). So if this is truly bothering but you don't want to pick up a screwdriver; get the X240 But if you want a better PC (assuming you're not looking for the most battery life, but purely how comfy your machine is) get the modded T420s. The **40 series is probably the most hated one in /tpg/
Ayden Wood
>another board member hey that's me! yes i got it today, quite happy. thanks again!!!!!
John Hall
Hey /tpg/, first time poster here so go easy on me! I just purchased a genty used ThinkPad (X140 I think) from my college's surplus sale for $120.
What are some upgrade options I can look into to get the most out of this little thing? It has an AMD A4-5000 processor, which is probably a little crappier than what you guys are used to. It's also running Windows 7.
Thanks in advance! I'm in love with it so far, it feels really sturdy.
Easton Lewis
good stuff, sorry i didn't get to ship it out till end of the week
Ryder Brown
I'm planning to get one for University so max battery life is a point of interest. Right now I'm using a consumer 15'' Laptop with a beautiful 1080p IPS screen, but the keyboard, build quality, touch pad and battery life sucks which is far from ideal. Guess I'll go with the small X240 then.
Daniel Lopez
all good, got here quick enough for me
Robert Sullivan
I forgot to mention that it has 4GB of RAM - how much does it support in total? I can't seem to find any information online. Maybe 8GB or 16GB? That'll probably be my first upgrade.
Sebastian Scott
Most powerful would probably be some sort of T61p frankenpad but "best" is subjective so I can't really answer that
William Hughes
Can X220 with i5-2520M play bluray remuxes comfortably?
Tyler Rogers
What's that red "button" on the side? The tip of the pen?
Elijah Cruz
Reminder.
Kayden Garcia
Reminder that women are cancer, even if they appear 'nerdy'.
I have RAM, SSD, and a keyboard replacement from my x200t. Would you do it?
Ryder Mitchell
Question: I'm installing my network drivers on my machine and it prompted me the option to choose one of the network interfaces during the installation. One is:
What I'm trying to accomplish is get my wireless drivers working, I/m guessing I go for the second one, but still I'll like someone else insight on this as this is my first time.
Asher Hill
well, are you plugging it in to a wired network, or are you using wireless? This is just for 'where to get packages during initial installation'.
Dylan Richardson
Nevermind, I should really trust myself.
Jayden Martinez
eth are rj45 ethernet ports. wlan are wireless adaptors. That's an old standard though, the new ones are a lot more cryptic, hence why some distros stuck with the way things were.
So yes, pick the second.
Michael Cruz
Anyone knows where to buy genuine trackpoint caps for a decent price? I bought some chinese one off of ebay, and it was so soft and flimsy that I ended up using my old beaten down trackpoint cap.
Nicholas Morris
Thanks guys, I really appreciate all the help. But I don't want to sound too needy, but when configuring the network, it doesn't want to connect to anything, my passphrase is correct, but it fails connect. Could this be an issue with my router or the driver?
Adam Moore
Anyone have some tips on setting up TLP? When I bring my T420s out of sleep the trackpad doesn't work until I do an alt-f2 and r. Only started doing this after installing TLP.
Jeremiah Jones
I'm thinking about getting a T520 Core i5 2520 with a 1600x900 TN display for everyday use. Good idea or not?
Brandon Watson
It's a fine choice, but why settle for 1600x900 when you can have 1080p?
Kevin Miller
1600x900 is much cheaper plus I read a review about the 1600x900 display saying it has a very good contrast and illumination for a thinkpad TN panel. The review didn't say anything about the 1080p display so I figured I'd just go with what I know.
Nicholas Perry
Hello, I JUST got a new thinkpad X1 carbon (4th gen)
What GNU/Linux distribution would you recommend?
If you have this model, have you experienced any hardware problems?
Any general suggestions?
Thanks.
Easton White
>Thanks guys, I really appreciate all the help. But I don't want to sound too needy, but when configuring the network, it doesn't want to connect to anything, my passphrase is correct, but it fails connect. Could this be an issue with my router or the driver? The Intel drivers will reject connections to wireless access points with broken beacon or authentication. A ton of older access points that implemented draft standards will have this problem.
Jackson Morris
>broken beacon or authentication What do you mean by this? And is there a way to fix it?
Jordan Bailey
Is running your fan with 3000ish rpm at all times damaging it ? (And by all time I mean as long as it's on, and if needs to exceed that speed it will, but never will fall under)
Camden Diaz
>When Mum and Dad don't give you enough cash to buy more ThinkPads
With MPC-HC or some video player using HW acceleration, yes. CPU decoding is an easy way to drain your battery.
Nolan Howard
i just arranged to meet a guy selling a w520 for $300.
it has: i7-2820qm 500gb hard drive 1600x900 hd+ quadro k2000 7 hours supposedly on battery
Should i go through with it or back out now? We're arranged to meet tomorrow.
Ayden Perry
I need your help /tpg/, I want to buy a cheap ThinkPad to install a GNU/Linux distro and learn it, as my main notebook is used for work etc, but the thing is, I'm from Brazil and I have a limited amount of models to buy, basically those are all my options, also I don't want to spend more than R$500 (~$140).
That's a beast of a laptop and the $300 is appropriate, stay safe, user.
Noah Stewart
i carry a knife and my old t400 for self defense (seriously, beat my old roommate with it when he tried to steal my cash).
thanks. looking forward to the screen+performance upgrade but didn't want to take a bad deal.
Henry Davis
>have an ideapad p500 >mouse buttons are a part of the touchpad >can't do any precise clicking because when I do try to right click something, my finger causes the cursor to move
David Ortiz
>tfw ive always wanted a bitch beating thinkpad
What thinkpad has the strongest frame?
Thomas Morales
Save an additional R$150 and buy a T410 with an i5
John Adams
Probably the old IBM T4x series
Michael Flores
How much are my two x60 tablet SXGA+'s each worth?
Dylan Gonzalez
i'd buy one off you for about $60 if it's in good condition so i guess around $100-$120
Matthew Nelson
I barely use my laptop (t61) anymore since I finished school, mostly just browsing and light programming on it on weekends. I've gotten used to faster computer and would like to upgrade. Would a x220 worth it ? Will I hate going from 14" to 12" ? I was also looking at the t440 but haven't found real good critics on it. I would want to buy something high end but I know I wont use my laptop at home or work, so its not worth.
Luke Gomez
Should I buy a T60 with T2500, 2GB DDR2 and 60GB HDD for $70?
Jayden Brown
I'd try to go penryn for that much, but T660 is a nice oldie and at $70, it's probably in good condition.
Luke Rivera
>T660 T60*
Oliver Scott
I'd like to buy a newer thinkpad, x230, t440 or t520+ and was wondering if going for the i7 is worth it or stick with usual i5 ?
Nathan Carter
Go with an i7 if possible but the improvement over the i5 is not huge
Luis Ortiz
x230 8 giga RAM 240 gb SSD i7 3500 something for 555$ Keep in mind im from Europe so thinkpads cost more.
Owen Wright
Not too shabby, the ones that we get for super cheap usually need SSD and RAM upgrades, but you're already set with that unless you want 16GB for some reason.
Brandon Scott
I am thinking about getting a P70 for my next workstation (I have to be on the go). Is that a good buy /tpg/????
David Myers
Its pretty big. Why not a P50?
Joshua Stewart
That's a badass laptop
Just make sure and do yourself a favor and get the 1080p panel after you get it, you should be able to get one for less than $100
W520s are fairly rare so its not worth waiting to find one with the FHD panel already
Bentley Hall
It's shit. The FHD panel is way better and not just in resolution, but in viewing angle, contrast, and color space too
Jace Thomas
Any advise on the x series? My cheap 5 year old acer literally fell apart today. Im not used to large computers.
Cooper Rivera
X220, X230 if you don't mind the 6-row keyboard
Wyatt Ramirez
I bought a 420 as my dedicated Linux programming box. Using Antergos with Cinnamon for the latest and greatest. Works really well
Does anyone know how to switch of the the beeping sound with the backspace when you can't go back etc.?
Gavin Lopez
I just purchased a refurbished Dell Latitude 14 Rugged for $529 which included a 3 years factory warranty that ends 05/19/2019. Specs i3-4030 8gbs 256 SSD What do you guys think?
