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0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux

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wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
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Other urls found in this thread:

wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation
forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=123197
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Specialties#Securing_the_unencrypted_boot_partition
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Encrypting_an_entire_system#Configuring_the_boot_loader_4
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double left mouse clicks to open a folder/file doesn't work on my deepin. what do?
it works on the thinkpad's left click thingy though.

How do I get rid of the screen in the beginning that asks me to boot to windows or puppy? I don't even have windows installed so I absolutely hate this screen.

that screen is the bootloader GRUB. I don't know if it's even possible to remove it, but it's generally a good idea to keep it in case you have trouble booting.
Instead of removing it you can edit the file /etc/default/grub with superuser priviledges and change the value of GRUB_TIMEOUT to 0. Afterwards you need to update GRUB, in Ubuntu I believe the command is "sudo update-grub", in Fedora it is "sudo grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg". Better search for instructions for your specific distro if you are not sure.

I'm silly, puppy linux is still based on Ubuntu if I'm not mistaken, so you can safely try "sudo update-grub". Only if that doesn't work you need to use another command (sometimes it's sudo grub-mkconfig instead of grub2-mkconfig and grub is sometimes in /boot/grub/ instead of /boot/grub2/

For the folks running Debian Stable (if there are any of you)

Have you managed to backport mpv's Sid version?

I use Sid on my own machine, but I have my dad running Stable so things are safer for him.

I tried following the instructions on the Debian wiki but just ended up hitting a wall with missing dependencies.

That makes absolutely no sense.
Install them and use the tools provided by them to configure it. Why do you need another abstraction tool which would launch the settings tools for each component?

alright I have 16.0 up and running with the 390x. Which order should I do this in not to screw myself. I need to install the 980ti propietary drivers blacklist the open source nvidia driver properly. Noeveu or something tis called. And blacklist the 390x card. Which order will stop me from breaking the previous cards drivers without the new cards driver being ready.

Also anyone know what the nvidia ppa is? Googling now but you never know with these sometimes the new driver has issues and the old one is better.

Having a bit of difficulty trying to install Xubuntu onto a partition alongside OS X. I created a 60GB FAT partition beforehand. On the install window from the Xubuntu CD, it appears to install just fine. But booting into it just produces a black screen. What could be wrong. Should it be formatted with something other than FAT?

to clarify, this is the output of debuild -uc -us

francisco@FranciscoTP:~/mpv-0.14.0$ debuild -uc -us
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc
dpkg-buildpackage: source package mpv
dpkg-buildpackage: source version 0.14.0-1~bpo80+1
dpkg-buildpackage: source distribution jessie-backports
dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Francisco Vargas
dpkg-source --before-build mpv-0.14.0
dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture amd64
dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libasound2-dev libass-dev (>= 0.12.1~) libavcodec-dev (>= 7:2.4~) libavdevice-dev (>= 7:2.4~) libavfilter-dev (>= 7:2.4~) libavformat-dev (>= 7:2.4~) libavresample-dev (>= 7:2.4~) libavutil-dev (>= 7:2.4~) libbluray-dev libcdio-paranoia-dev libdvdnav-dev libdvdread-dev libegl1-mesa-dev libenca-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libguess-dev libjack-dev libjpeg-dev liblcms2-dev (>= 2.6~) liblua5.2-dev libpulse-dev librubberband-dev libsdl2-dev libsndio-dev (>= 1.0.1) libswscale-dev (>= 7:2.4~) libva-dev libvdpau-dev libwayland-dev libx11-dev libxinerama-dev libxkbcommon-dev libxrandr-dev libxss-dev libxv-dev
dpkg-buildpackage: warning: build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting
dpkg-buildpackage: warning: (Use -d flag to override.)
debuild: fatal error at line 1376:
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc failed


Was following these instructions:

wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation
forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=123197

Is there a way to create your own live ISO based on your current install? I'd like to be able to plug in a live USB and have things like gparted and nemo installed by default.

And when trying to satisfy those dependencies, it requires loads of packages at newer version than those featured in Stable

Does that mean I'm going to have to install backports for each of them, or have I got it wrong somewhere?

Thanks for your time

Installed watching a tutorial. I don't know much but I typed in the sudo ... and it said command not recognized.
Anyways I managed to open menu.lst in vi. Here's a screenshot.
Got info from this link: murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=45207

yes, use ext4.

ah, you are using Slacko Puppy, which is based on Slackware, not Ubuntu.
If the method you are using works for you, then good. Did that file have a warning at the beginning á la
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
?
Because if it had, I hope you've made a backup, and you should have used the other method I've suggested: edit /etc/default/grub, then run grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
in any case, if it works then it works.

I've dual booted Ubuntu 16.04 with Windows 8. It's taking me 30 minutes to delete 3000 files from the Windows partition while in Ubuntu. Is it supposed to be that slow?

Nope no wwarning.
I understand what you're saying. The default timer is like 15 seconds until it boots to puppy anyways. You are saying make it to 0.

If this is the case I agree this is a good step to take for my problem.

Anyways, I have so far searched for grub i cannot find it. It's not in etc default, or boot.

Well I got the drivers from the nvidia website and them tried to install them but they do not want to be installed when the gpu is not actually in the machine.

Going to try blacklisting Noveneu or whatever the open source driver is called then doing it again.

Is there a way to remove all packages that are not being depended upon by any other package, but that at the same time are not for human use?

For example, having it delete a bunch of packages that are not needed, but NOT delete, for example mpv (which no one depends on, but is usable for humans)

Maybe my question is a bit naive. Sorry, I'm new.

Alright I blacklisted the open source ones and restarted then added the ppa and installed from there. Might restart and try it with the 980ti installed now see what happens but I wonder if I should blacklist the 390x first.

Thx forbyour help.
I found my answer from the link.
Menu.lst has the timeout to seconds written in it. I am editibg it using vi.
No warnings have shown up.

I have edited the timout to 0 seconds. No longer do i have to choose to boot to windows which is no longer installed.

:)

The amd and nvidia drivers shouldn't conflict so you shouldn't need to blacklist either of them (except for passthrough once you have everything working). You should be able to specify in xorg which driver to use.
PS: You should use the nvidia driver that comes from your distro not the one from the nvidia site. It is likely to integrate with the rest of the system and break less.

You could just make a chroot (look at the page on the chroot debian wiki and the debootstrap man page) then symlink the mpv from the chroot into you path somewhere.

My system wouldnt boot with it at all cause it kept wanting to use nouveau which doesnt support the 980ti chip.

Either way I got the 980ti working now. The problem is ubuntu will not boot with two gpus installed for me. The 980ti and the 390x can both run my system at the moment independently.

When I install both though it gets to the point where it asks for my encyption password and freezes before I can type. That is show on the first gpu. The second gpu just shows a blinking underline cursor.

I need to figure out a way now to block the 390x in Ubuntu itself so I can boot with both installed. Then I can pass the 390x to a vm.

I wouldn't be surprised. There are likely was to do such things much faster but it probably isn't optimised.

és de portugal? que cidade?

If you are on debian or ubuntu (not familiar with others) then apt-get autoremove should theoretically remove packages marked auto that aren't depended on by any manually installed packages.
There are also ways you can use aptitude to search for automatically installed packages that meet various requirements, just look on stackoverflow somewhere ...

Well then blacklisting both nvidia and nouveau should work for booting and passthrough. If you can't get to your DE to blacklist them then when you get to the login screen switch to a different tty with eg ctrl+alt+F2 and login to the text terminal there and do it.

I want to keep the nvidia card running linux for now want to try the 390x on the vm. So ill be banning the open source amd drivers since 16.04 wont even let you tough the proprietary ones of old.

Calling it GNU/Linux is EXACTLY the kind of reason normies will never adopt linux.

GNU is a stupid name, hard to pronounce and not catchy at all. GNU/Linux is even fucking stupider. I dont care how butthurt it makes Stallman.

If we're gonna get our panties in a bunch over people calling it just Linux, then Linux will be the the operating system of basement dwelling dweebs forever.

This website is +18.

what are you doing here then?

...

Add the sid repository to sources.list

>truthhurts.jpg

This thread was so nice ... till now.

I have a file with over 5000 lines.
Im trying to soft them based on their file name(last part of each line) and sort them alphabetically.
I've tried sed, and sort, but i havent been able to get desired results.

yeah i dont care how little you guys care

I just keep coming across this thread and I needed to get it off my chest.

Anyone got some good Plasma 5 themes? I just fresh installed and looking for some Material Design-esque themes.

Pic related is my minimal system so far.

Could you post an example?
Thanks. Now leave.

Free software doesn't aim for market share. It doesn't matter if it's basement dweller software or whatever. It's all about the users freedom.

Why the fuck shouldn't it aim for market share? Don't we want more hardware support from the big companies?

Does a working screensaver for gnome/ubuntu 16.04 exist? Never found one on older releases. Would like to turn off the power down after whatever time option and use a screensaver instead.

I keep seeing this wallpaper. It it some standard pape in Plasma 5?

My freedom says I dont want GNU passing my lips.

Not that I know of. I just pulled it off /wg/ just now as a temp wallpaper before I get all set up.

Hey /fglt/, I just heard about Slackware and was wondering if it was any good as a main OS? I'm relatively new to Unix-like operating systems if that factors in at all.

Is there a shortcut to urxvt in puppy

what has moot got against furries?

it's five letters, why do you need a shortcut?

Does anyone even make Plasma/Qt themes? Where do people get them? The KDE Looks website is dead. DeviantArt has no Qt section. What else is there?

You're a gullible and naive idiot for asking such subjective, unsubstantial questions.

Hoe do i open it without going to thevtray and clicking thebconsole every time.
And where are the font etc. Options in puppy slackware 6

You're a gullible and naive idiot for thinking that all OSs are equal, slackware is shit.

Wat do

How can I set up LUKS on LVM containing an encrypted root to auto-decrypt with a key on external media?

From my Debian install the default boot parameters are /vmlinuz-4.5.0-2-amd64 root=/dev/mapper/mylvm-root ro quiet which allow me to boot with the passphrase.

I added a key to another key slot and added cryptkey=/dev/mysdcard:vfat:/mykey to the parameters which unsurprisingly didn't work.

I'm just not sure which parameters I need to make this particular setup do what I want.

wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Specialties#Securing_the_unencrypted_boot_partition

Is it better to have a partition for /home or should be everythig on a single partition?

Alright so I have a bunch of stuff installed and now I need to blacklist the gpu I am going to pass through to the vm. So that ubuntu does not touch it so its available to pass to the vm. The problem is I can see it without it being installed and having 2 gpus in my computer stops ubuntu from booting.

Going to try switching to the gpu that I want to pass and then banning it from command line. Then ill try booting with two gpus and see if it works.

None of the instructions I have read mention when you are supposed to actually physically insert the second gpu. Has anyone done this before?

Why does Linux have 8 TTYs?
Why not 9 or 1?

Why does less show more while more shows less?

/boot
/
/home

Which one should I install to be my main OS, Debian stable or testing?

You can have as many as you want to configure
>8
Default is 12

>3 partitions
WHY

so you can reinstall your OS without losing your data. It's standard practice.

>Why
Why?
Boot is by its self so you dont fuck up your install
Root so it has all your system on it
Home so you dont fuck up your data

Testing. In Debianland "stable" means packages, so old, that nothing will break in the next 100 years. Unstable means rolling-like packages like on Arch.

I just got payment for installing Ubuntu

rate

By the way, does Arch have a warning system equivalent like "apt-listbugs"?

>supporting Canonical
You fucked up.

Why would anyone want to install a distro that doesn't have AUR access?

Doesn't testing go into code freezes anyway? And iirc they don't backport security patches to it so you're left sitting with potentially buggy upstream version of something for quite a while when they freeze

>i install everything from the aur just because i think it's cool
>i use coreutils-git and then complain when things "break"

Debianfag here, if I really need some AUR stuff, I just read the PGKBUILD - done.

>impling the AUR isn't just a frontend for git clone; make; sudo make install

Time to write a wrapper script, kek.

That's not really what I'm trying to do. I just want my bootloader to unlock my LVM with a key.

wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Encrypting_an_entire_system#Configuring_the_boot_loader_4
The above explains how do it with plain dm-crypt but I'm trying to do it with my existing LVM on LUKS configuration (mistakenly said LUKS on LVM before).

I'm about to install Lubuntu for a low power laptop that is mainly for writing.

Only question I have is that is it going to be full of ads like Ubuntu was when I tried it a while ago?

So when using unity tweak tool, why the fuck can't you even preview fonts?

deb-multimedia.org

That happens when copying too. It's mostly a problem with Nautilus I think. Use the terminal when you can or install Thunar and try with it.

Well ldconfig is from libc-bin and ssd is from dpkg so they are both installed so your path is wrong. Run PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:$PATH then that should fix it. Put it in /etc/profile to make it permanent.

Nope. It's clean as fuck. That was just Unity.

If you blacklist both nvidia drivers then the fact that the card is inserted should not affect anything and you should be free to pass it through, because nothing else in the kernel will want to talk with the device.

Search in AUR, my man.

What is /etc/inittab

more predates less. less is a better more. Because less is more (but better).

new feature freezes for 6 months every two years while next stable is being finalized (but still fixes and security updates). Security updates still come through the normal update procedure which is maybe two weeks or a month depending on the maintainer (same for unstable and experimental).

Why is thunar so fast yet so... fuck ugly?

Because you didn't install a proper theme?

What is even a proper theme?

There are a few. Arc dark seems to be popular right now.

And you think month old security patches is an acceptable way of doing things?

I have been posting these for quite a while now.

Can anyone spoonfeed me install MPC-Qt in ubuntu?

I installed qtcreator already. Now I have to compile libmpv.
1. ./bootstrap.py installs wah
2. ./wah configure --enable-libmpv-shared doesn't work because apparently pkgsrc is missing(?)


>The mpv build system uses waf but we don't store it in your source tree. The script './bootstrap.py' will download the latest version of waf that was tested with the build system.

>For a list of the available build options use ./waf configure --help. If you think you have support for some feature installed but configure fails to detect it, the file build/config.log may contain information about the reasons for the failure.

>NOTE: To avoid cluttering the output with unreadable spam, --help only shows one of the two switches for each option. If the option is autodetected by default, the --disable-*** switch is printed; if the option is disabled by default, the --enable-*** switch is printed. Either way, you can use --enable-*** or --disable-** regardless of what is printed by --help.

>To build the software you can use ./waf build: the result of the compilation will be located in build/mpv. You can use ./waf install to install mpv to the prefix after it is compiled.

>implying less is more when more gives you clearly more, while less gives you less more

testing is not supposed to be used on machines with sensitive information or that are likely to be targeted, that is what stable is for. You every heard the phrase shifting the goal post. You can't have everything.

Nobody expects the Libré Interjection.

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