Slackware vs Arch

Which one should I choose?

Arch Linux. Slackware feels it's necessary to make things too complicated.

Not choose suicide linux

I am using linux for a long time so I'm not scare of 'suicide linux'.

There's no point in running Suicide Linux.

Just boot any old Linux livecd, make sure you have a lot of RAM, and then see how long you can use the system without rebooting or the power going out.

Arch works fine with latest packages. Plus the AUR and a dependency solver. It's actually a good system

>literally makes things as simple as possible
>omg I have to edit text files?!?!?!?1
>omg no dep resolution dealbreaker its 2016 lol

>no dep resolution dealbreaker its 2016
Hard to handle the truth?

Having used both, I have to say that the Slackware install ISO includes lots of shitty user programs. There are four music players, and they all suck. That's a shame, because it means building lots of things yourself.

If Slackware included better stuff by default, I would like it better. The base system is sensible and easy to understand, but arch makes it easier to get the user programs I care about.

That sums up my feelings about Slackware, user.

Another thing that pisses me off about Slackware is deployability. If you have to set your shit up on another machine, oh boy, then...

And don't tell me to maintain my own package repo, because I already did that back in the day. It's a waste of time because by the time they actually come in handy for installing on a new system, their link-libraries will be broken, or Perl will be upgraded and they'll install into the wrong path, or some other shit.

Slack was fun, but man, just don't have the time for it anymore.

>Ctrl+f
>Phrase not found
install gentoo

>Picking a timesink distro.
>gentoo not an option
you fucked up op.

I'm installing Funtoo as we speak. Over an hour compiling networkmanger.Are you niggers serious? You guys have a lot of nerve shitting on Arch.

how many programs do you install in a day? 500?

Definitive damage control. Inability should not be responded with avoidance

Is your computer a fucking potato? What are your cflags? I got an entire desktop environment done in an hour on my laptop (xfce).

Slackware is a pain at the moment to update from a fresh install. Either use "current" the rolling release model or wait for 14.2 in a month or so.
For dependency resolution with binary packages use slapt-get with slackonly as your repo. Its literally the same as apt-get and gslapt is identical to synaptic. Otherwise stick with sbopkg for slackbuilds and use sqf's for dep resolution if compiling from source. Then of course use slackpkg to do your updates. Its not hard at all.

No because if you have to resolve your own dependencies, (which you dont have to if you dont want to), then you would literally need to be installing shitloads of programs everyday for dependency resolution to be such a pain that its not worth it in the end. some programs after install require 1-2 deps at most and most require none at all. So no to your statement.

Install Ubuntu in two minutes and then actually do something.

archlinux is slackware with pacman and systemd,

Or you can just use a distro with a package manager that handles automatic dep resolution.

>Doesn't know how to maintain a source based distro
>Blames the distro
Yeah, some of you faggots are retarded. Last guy blamed Gentoo because he didn't know how to maintain his cache.

please......

We get it kid, you're a special snowflake who wants to make things overly complicated just so you can feel special. Just remember, I'm better than you because I use a better distribution.

Nice comeback idiot. If you actually used slackware you wouldnt be making these arguments because the problems you describe about slackware dont actually exist.
So what other fallacies can you pull out of your arse at the minute?

Why the fuck should I have to spend who knows how long hunting down dependencies? Why!? And what about updating it? That'll be a pain in the ass to update if it's outside of the official Slackware repos.

Cant you read?
Obviously not..
One more time...

when installing it probably. I don't feel like spending hours actively fetching and compiling packages. At least gentoo does that automatically and even that's pretty bad. It definitely feels useless when you have close to the same result as a fully prepackaged distro.

I've used both Arch and Slackware. Currently running Slackware. It really depends on what you're looking for in the system.
Arch lets you play with all the newest packages, gives you constant updates, and lets you build your system up from a minimal-base. Slackware gives you a solid base for a desktop system and let's you build up from there. It focuses more on stability and the package versions tend to reflect that. Arch uses more tools, Slackware focuses on text config files. Arch makes you deal with system breakage (rarely in my experience but still there), Slackware is rock solid once you get it set up.

Basically, if you want to be able to play with the newest packages and don't mind dealing with the problems of living on the bleeding edge go Arch.
If you want something that takes a bit more effort to set up but works better to actually get work done go Slackware. Also go with Slackware if you want to learn Linux better (though be aware of the lack of systemd. I consider that a plus, but like it or not most other distros have it so you won't be learning any of that)

Also ignore anyway who says stuff about Slackware's lack of dependency resolution. It's rarely a problem and if you want it it's still there (e.g. slapt-get and sbopkg with queue files)

The base install is set up so that you don't have to worry about dependencies with stuff in the Slackware repo. Obviously if you don't install all the packages your experience will be different but you shouldn't be a dumbass. Also, Slackware is technically a binary distro. All packages from the Slack repo and most others are in binary format, only the SlackBuilds repo (which is like AUR) is source based.

No..
LIsten.
slapt-get is apt-get for slackware.
Gslapt is the front end and is identical in every way to synaptic pm.
Choose a repo not default slack only is my favorite.
its binary only.
Sbopkg is for compiling and all deps are listed and you can modify the build scripts like useflags and add deps to your sqf.
slackpkg updates all packages on the system.

If you like the core ideas of Arch (centralized config, binary + source are both easy, easy to keep some packages on bleeding edge), try NixOS. It does all of that better.

You can have concurrent versions of the same library, so upgrading one package never breaks another. The system is configured with a relatively simple functional language (unfortunately a DSL rather than something already well-known). And it is easy to build from source as well as use the binary cache.

Downsides: really, really shitty command line UIs. Like "how did this happen" tier, worse than git. Novel functional DSL for config rather than using an existing language. Steep learning curve, a pain to set up most things (such as building modified versions of packages from source). Breaks away from Linux Filesystem Hierarchy (necessarily), so packaging some things is difficult / requires patches.

lol what are you doing with your PC when you're done with OS maintenance? ;)

Not that user but i bash mine into shape and simply leave it alone.

Obviously organizing my massive porn collection that I've built up with all the time I've saved by switching to Slack

>Is your computer a fucking potato?
AMD A8-6500
>What are your cflags?
None specified yet,I'm following the installation guide,there's nothing mentioned at this point in the install.

What about NetBSD's pkgsrc?

dunno

What are your USE flags?

in slackware how do i remove the GUI

Oh, set some cflags (this is late so maybe you already got there). Especially -pipe -O2. Another important one is -j#. Usually you do the amount of cores/threads your processor has plus one, but this depends on the amount of ram you have.


Also enable features like SSE2, but find specific guides for cflags like that, I can't just tell you what they are. Once you set up your cflags compilation should go pretty decently as that processor isn't bad.

The new gcc makes setting CFLAGS a breeze. Like mine is -march=core-avx2 but I can just put -march=haswell if I wanted to. The same code gets passed to gcc anyway though.

Ive never had to do it but maybe after you login as root, type removepkg desktopname

maybe.

I was thinking the same recently.
I chose Arch because of Sup Forums memes and though I have a hard time everytime it needs maintenance, I learned more about linux in 6 months than I did in more than 5 years of being an ubuntu babbie.

But because I spent so long on ubuntu, I didnt notice how things were different before systemd.

People here seems to hate systemd but I can't understand why because I never played with init.

However, I feel like it is too late to go back just so I can get a grasp of init since everyone is using systemd and I have no argument against it, I'd better follow the trend.

Since I'm shit at troubleshooting, I cannot expect to have a "linux" job but still, I'd like to continue learning """useful""" things.

Slackware.

Arch is for hipsters.

systemd is actually bretty gud, dont fall for the memes

except for binary logs, i enjoy text files

Then on what are the memes based on?

Slackware if you actually want to be minimal and a hardcore timesinker

Arch if you want to pretend to be

people just hate change

things beyond your meager nonprogrammer comprehension

>every systemd argument, with bridges:
>engineers: this bridge design sucks
>bridge designers: it's the future, we don't care, we're going to make every bridge like this
>SJW friends of bridge designers: if you hate this bridge, you're some sort of freak and probably hate women. one of the engineers that hates this bridge hates women, you know that right?
>commuters: idk man it gets me from a to b and looks rly cool maybe you dont like change xd

What are the advantages of the old way? All I know is systemd makes my PC boot faster. For someone who uses their computer for more than using their computer, that seems like a major improvement.

I'm also a pleb and not certified to argue about this

We're both barred from having opinions other than "i like it" and "i don't"

You're a cringy one, aintcha?

you're from reddit, aintcha?

Timesinker for slack? setup takes longer than most but once its done, leave it alone. I wouldnt go that far.

Do you know why slackware is called slackware?
You know the church of subgenius pun? Slack?
And you say timesink.
Google it.

>they never have a good answer for this

No lol There's a reason Systemd isn't supported for a lot of hardened sources.

working with git, video & audio editing, web browsing, sometimes games
wbu? just shitpost on Sup Forums? that's expected & sad frogposter

being with my wife and kids

>working with git
What does that mean? Typing code in a text editor and using git for version control? Why not just say "programming"?

Holy fuck

>aintcha

that makes me cringe harder than anything he said

>I work full time
Ubuntu/Mint
>I have work to do and I like bringing it home
Debian/Fedora
>I'm jobless NEET and I like to pretend I'm a l337 haxx0r even though all I do is read documentation

meme distros like Arch, Slackware, Gentoo etc

No, his coworker is a git. he needs a remote shell on his machine at all times to fix his mistakes.

>I pretend to have a job, but if i did have a job, i'd be a computer janitor. those guys are awesome!
debubuntu/fedora
>I have a job and it's actually not shit
RHEL, customized gentoo, windows, OS X

No memes, Gentoo.
I haven't used Slackware though

Ubuntu is good enough for Google employees. WTF is gentoo still used for?

To make Chrome OS.

Pretending to have a job, just like the 95% winkids in Sup Forums

I have a very part time computer janitor jorb and getting neetbux and leeching off my dad and bf (two different people). Going to school for CS this fall because it's difficult. Will plan to be full time computer janitor if I fail.

What if my company has slackware servers?
Mine does.

Why would they do that?

I dont know thats their choice not mine.

I'd alert the higher-ups. That's consuming hours unnecessarily, causing security vulnerabilities, or both.

Not being with the wife's children

What? I and the other admins keep everything up to date aswell as checking advisory boards on a daily basis.
What are you on about?
Because its simply not RHEL?
It damn near looks after its self.

Sure you do ;)

Oh please.
You are not gonna get a rise out of me.
Not for this.

slackware is honestly underrated. Don't get the people who call it ancient, it's as 'bleeding edge' as you need it to be, without breaking constantly.

i wish slackware was more minimal

i want something that's pretty much a BSD style Linux From Scratch, if Slackware didn't have all that bloat it would be the closest thing to that