>NEET guide to web dev employment pastebin.com/4YeJAUbT/ >How to get started youtube.com/watch?v=pB0WvcxTbCA - "WATCH THIS IF YOU WANT TO BECOME A WEB DEVELOPER! - Web Development Career advice" youtube.com/watch?v=zf_cb_Nw5zY) - "JavaScript is Easy" - If you can't into programming, you probably won't find a simpler introduction to JavaScript than this.
why do people sometimes suggest to offer services in fiverr? how is that not worse than using freelancing websites?
Ryan Reyes
Why do no text editors auto complete the brackets? I've tried with Atom and Sublime Text.
Cameron Rivera
you really shouldn't be manually coding html or xml. Use a module
Bentley Russell
I'm just learning HTML. I don't know what a module is.
Joseph Evans
most every web editor has a emmet plugin
Zachary Wright
ok well similar as it is in javascript, at the top of each document you usually have a list of imports, like: from yattag import Doc, indent from bs4 import BeautifulSoup import re import os import shutil
those are modules. Yattag is one that is helpful, because you can write html quite easily. All you have to have is a list of elements you want to put in your document and where, and you can do this: with tag('html') for element in elements_for_document: with tag('element'): text(element)
and it'll generate something like:
First element in array Second element in array
And while we're on the subject html is not a "language", its a document write-up format. Python and javascript are, and they generate html code, generally speaking
Jeremiah Rogers
>And while we're on the subject html is not a "language" html and css would have been a unified programming language if they were designed properly, which is why people use HAML and SASS now and libraries like jQuery that provide DOM API that should have been in the first place
Cameron Brown
HTML is properly designed, as a document format. The web was never intended to be an all-purpose application delivery platform and HTML was never designed to be a GUI framework. That's why issues like XSS have remained unsolved since 1995.
Dominic Sullivan
soup.title # The Dormouse's story
soup.title.name # u'title'
soup.title.string # u'The Dormouse's story'
soup.title.parent.name # u'head'
this is from the python site
I have documents that (obviously) have more than one or element Is there a way to find the direct link to them, too? I'm not fond of the soup.find(), feel like it takes up too much time
John Stewart
Short question about AngularJS, I'm currently trying to get into it.
How do I restrict the access to specific views, as they are only some html / js combos? For example a user is allowed to access /userInterface/userSettings, but not /userInterface/editUser (which does some administrative stuff).
Also, how are form things handled? Let's say I have the overview of users, and a form to change the user's name. In that form I set a new name, press the save button, and then end up at /userInterface/saveUser or something similar. After that I get redirected to the overview, and I get to see the updated name in the list. If I'm not mistaken, in Angular it'd send the form via AJAX, then load the overview. But what if the "load overview" call is faster than the "saveUser" call? Then it'd load the overview first, with the old username, then save the new username. How is that problem avoided in Angular? Or is there no built-in way, and I have to add it manually?
Nathan Ramirez
>The web was never intended to be an all-purpose application delivery platform doesnt matter what was originally intended, thats whats happening. All software companies including MS, Apple, Google, etc are all pushing for more cloud based web content. You probably have more web apps on your phone than installed binary apps. what was originally intended doesnt mean shit
>and HTML was never designed to be a GUI framework doesnt matter what it was originally designed for, it is becoming one. for a long time web programmers had to rely on Flash for dynamic client side GUI content, but now javascript and html5 is catching up to where it should have been from the beginning
David Martin
Doesn't matter when considering WHAT? Doesn't matter when you talk about how it was designed? If you talk about the design process, what it was originally intended to be is ALL that matters. That guy didn't say it was good for its purpose nowadays, he just said it was properly designed.
Jesus Christ, go back to high school and learn to read and comprehend.
Grayson Smith
Wordpress deving is turning me into a Pajeet.
Liam Peterson
XD
Asher Phillips
>Resricting access to specific views I've done some commercial projects and we've decided not to "restrict" access anywhere because it's quite hard to implement. We just hide the admin components from the users but this does not prevent them from going through the front-end code themselves and figuring out how things work. It's going to take some time to un-uglify the code though. What you want to control is the access to your APIs. Don't let unauthorized users to pull data and more importantly: do not let them modify data that they should not modify.
You could try controlling access to html templates via nginx / apache but I think it's not worth it.
>POSTing information via ajxa and handling asynchronous code I take it that you haven't done a lot of async programming yet. This is where JavaScript truly shines, the language was built to be written in an asynchronous fashion. When you send a http request with Angular's $http module, it will return you a promise. Check out: docs.angularjs.org/api/ng/service/$http
The idea is that you send the ajax request and write what's supposed to happen after a successful response into the .then -part of the $http call. If the API responds with the updated object, you could use that to update the variables in your local $scope, or you can for example redirect the user and let the next controller fetch the user's data again via another ajax request.
Luke Fisher
Whats a good PHP framework to combine with react.js?
Austin Thomas
With React you benefit most, if your backend is Node, because you can prerender your views on the backend and provide a snappier experience to the user. Otherwise, use whatever is good at spitting out JSON.
Brayden Williams
I want to learn javascript and currently practice on FCC. What book should I choose to deepen my understanding?
Henry Stewart
Okey, I'll look into it thanks
Dylan Ortiz
Where should JS scripts go? On top or the bottom? Or does it depend (and on what)?
When should I use window.onload vs self calling functions?
I'm kinda doing random things when I need small functions on my website, I basically put the script tag on the bottom and inside I just write small snippets of code, like changing some colors based on scrollTop, some functions that start audio/video on button press etc. Mostly it is not even OOP, just one after the other because it's only a few lines of code. How can I organize that? I'm pretty sure this is a bad practice.
Ethan Reyes
Depends on what it does. As a rule most scripts should be put at the bottom and small bootstrap scripts should be put in the head.
Julian Parker
So it seems that socket.io seems good for us, because we are exactly making what it seems to be the best at, realtime applications. Is it a good idea to use react.js with that, or is it a bit overkill? Cant find much on the web for it
Luke Allen
Wordpress makes me die inside. Sorry you have to deal with that cancer, user.
Isaac Gomez
Which web framework should I go with in Go? or should I just stick with the built in http package?
Andrew James
There are people in my course that unironically love wordpress and use it for every project, also they use shitton of plugins and frameworks like Genesis or whatever. I don't understand that, especially because they seem smart and really talk enthusiastically about it like it really is great. Ofc, they are not doing web applications with it, but brochures, blogs and webshops for small to medium sized companies.
Eli Adams
Built in and packages that mesh with the built in. I recommend httptreemux as a replacement router, if you need dynamic paths.
Hunter Martinez
Hey guys, do any of you here develop simple websites for a quick buck?
I've been asked by a couple of people recently if I could create a simple webpage for them. I used to say no, because doing shit from scratch in HTML/CSS took too much time and wasn't worth the money. But now I'm thinking I could simply sell them a Wordpress install with some free theme that I'd customize to their liking. Plus there are enough plug-ins to cover most use cases.
Does anyone do that?
How much do you charge?
What hosting do you use?
Do you use another CMS than Wordpress?
Andrew Perry
>You shouldn't manually write html t.pajeet
William Hill
It's easy as shit to do certain things, which means more money for less effort.
A friend asked me to set him up a band site, what I did was buy a Wordpress theme from someone else, and had him pay 5 times more.
Brandon Nguyen
How do I maintain the SEO of a website I'm maintaining? Most of the content will be the same, but the URLs will end with .php instead of .html now
I can't afford to let the rankings drop
Benjamin Miller
post your shit
Daniel Morales
I need some advise on what I should do to go from NEET to someone who atleast earns some money
In the past 2-3 years, while each year studying something different and dropping out, I've been learning programming on and off on my own. I've learnt C#, python, html and css as well as reading some books concerning programming concepts, but the only project I've ever done with any of these was a C# project. As a result, I currently find myself in what I believe would be between beginner and intermediate, where I'm not clueless but I'm not entirely comfortable (I only feel slightly comfortable with C#).
I also need to start making some money, and the two paths I see are stick with C# and try to find employment, or pick html and css back up and learn all the other stuff to freelance webdev. The issue is how long it would take me to both reach a point where I consider myself employable, and how long until someone employs me.
With C#, I'd become employable far sooner, but I don't know how long until someone would employ me. Webdev on the other hand, would take me far longer to reach an employable point, but finding work/a job would be easier.
I have all the time in the world to go full turbo on whatever path I choose.
What would you personally do or advise me in this situation?
Samuel Martinez
So how is Angular 2's first render performance?`Not counting pre-rendering on the Server.
I wonder how well it does against Polymer, both polyfilled and native. I just can't find any good comparisons, the only articles comparing these two are made by poo2loos trying to lure people on their blog with the big buzzwords and who end up conveying no useful information.
Juan Butler
nice!
That's exactly what I plan on doing. How did you manage the hosting part and domain name? Did you tell him to get an account at whatever provider and manage it himself or did you do it for him too?
I've thought about getting a cheap VPS and hosting all the sites there for a small yearly fee, shouldn't be too hard to set up. Has anyone done this successfully? The only thing I'm afraid of is e-mail: most hosting providers offer e-mail accounts with custom domain name, don't know how hard it is to set up. Does google domain still exist btw?
Xavier Foster
The hard reply: Nobody can decide but you.
I'm in a similar place, people will just respond with their preferences and/or having their job market in mind.
Sucks because backend is so fucking diverse I have no idea if I'll choose the wrong or right thing, so I ended up focusing on frontend for start where things are clear cut and I'll try to get hired from a company that uses C# or some other good language (meaning no PHP shit) where I could potentially dive into backend later.
Ryan Ramirez
Can anyone tell me why picrelated doesn't work in TypeScript?
Kayden Hughes
Kiss yourselves. How can you be so lazy?
Samuel White
>Kiss yourselves That's cute.
Kayden Thomas
Thanks for the answer, that was helpful.
>Restricting views So basically, I shouldn't care about them grabbing the way the page looks, as long as they don't get the data. Sounds easy enough, as I already restrict the access to the endpoints.
>POSTing I guess then something like, AJAX for the form, then loading bar or something similar until it returns and then redirects to the overview, then loading bar until it loaded the overview. Sounds easy. Yeah, haven't done too much AJAX stuff except pulling some data from time to time.
So ouh, I really like how the AngularJS's AngularJS is broken.
Adrian Walker
I copied and pasted each section in their proper parts in a single html file. CSS under style and JavaScript under script tags
Kevin Flores
I see, thanks for the insight user
Luis Carter
I copied the js from the js section and put it in script tags in the html. Now it looks like it works.
Jaxson Harris
Hey team
So I've just completed a Web Dev course.
I'm great at CSS, pretty good at JS / JQuery and PHP. My design and Photoshop skills are good and I know enough to make simple apps and build and utilize MySQL databases.
Where to next???
It seems the jobs available are all for Node, Angular, Wordpress, Bootstrap SASS, Drupal, Agile Scrum etc...
All I want it a job where I won't be doing grunt work for years on shit pay.
Charles Martinez
bump
Jonathan Brooks
Class properties can not be optional. Probably the same applies to types of class properties.
Node, Angular, Wordpress, Bootstrap SASS, Drupal, Agile Scrum etc.
What was intended is important, as is the history and origins of the tech you use. If you're a developer you should understand the constraints of your platform, and always bear in mind that the reason we do things a certain way isn't necessary because it is the best possible way to do things.
it's a dictionary in html though so its not meant to be read
Carson Flores
Database design fun!
Let's say I have a table named "Image", which represents a single image with a directory link and other data like filesize, width etc... Now this image has a source. It came from somewhere. Either I got it off pixiv, or some user uploaded it.
How do I best represent this source, and how much splitting of tables is too much? Initially I just added a simple "source" texfield on the image. Works fine, but it doesn't tell me much.
What do you think about something like this:
table image table image_has_source table source
Where the image_has_source contains a link/description, and the "source" table functions like an enum of source types. (Pixiv, deviantart, local import from disk, user upload etc...)
What say you /gee/?
Thomas White
Use NoSQL - RethinkDB, CouchDB or Riak.
Evan Powell
Get the fuck out.
Aaron Flores
No.
Gabriel Brown
kys
Austin Turner
No :^)
Nathan Miller
You should save your image in the database, otherwise you are at risk for consistency, integrity and duplication issues. Modern relational databases handle storing tons of binary data well.
Creating all those tables violates reason and normalization rules. Just create one table with the following columns id original_filename image_bytes created_at md5 source
Calculate and store the MD5 on insertion to check for duplicates.
Grayson Morgan
if an image can only have one source, just use a foreign key to the source, image.source = source.id
Evan Butler
>using MD5 to check for duplicates Don't. You'll store duplicates anyway. E.g: You have a 500x400 image of your waifu, and some months later, you find the same image, but this time it's 499x399. You save it and the MD5 is different because of difference (even though it's tiny). This >realpython.com/blog/python/fingerprinting-images-for-near-duplicate-detection/
>it's a dictionary in html though so its not meant to be read
a-all in one line? user why
John Thomas
What course did you take? I'm searching for a good one at the moment. The one I'm taking on Coursera is somewhat meh
Hudson Reyes
Yes, there are many, but I linked that RealPython post because it clearly explains the problem with MD5 hashing and picture duplicates. I should've pointed that out
Cooper Scott
I did a polytechnic 1 year course.
I'm not too keen on learning online from scratch - there is a lot you can miss and be completely clueless about. Being able to interact with developers with industry experience was excellent.
Anyone have any guidance on what to study after the basics???
Grayson Bailey
is PHP still worth learning or is everyone moving on to Node, Rails, Django etc?
Thomas Carter
Yes. Don't give into the hipsters and their meme langs, PHP is still fine.
Zachary Martinez
is PHP PDO a meme?
Luis Wood
82.1% of websites use PHP.
Evan Brooks
Thanks, I unfortunately couldn't get an internship this summer since I have to stay at home for something unexpected and saw a few PHP books at the library, gonna start working on that
Brayden Myers
Yes, if you don't care about being pajeet and just want quick money.
Brandon Stewart
Absolutely. Only use mysql_totally_real_this_time_honest_escape_string.
Samuel Evans
>Anyone have any guidance on what to study after the basics???
Look at the video in the OP > youtube.com/watch?v=pB0WvcxTbCA - "WATCH THIS IF YOU WANT TO BECOME A WEB DEVELOPER! - Web Development Career advice"
Its almost as if people ask this question a lot, so we put the answer in the OP so they could ignore it and carry on asking.
Michael Ross
I tried to make a form better. I'm not sure I was 100% successful.
Is the full-width "+" button badly done? I feel like it might be.
Henry Hall
Forgot image.
Eli Cook
Spacing and sizes are terrible. + button should be at most the size of the click and drags, and inline.
Ethan Howard
Yeah m8 I know when I'm getting trolled. Good one though.
Austin Clark
Whats the color scheme family
Cooper Perez
I've been trying to redesign the same fucking form for over a week.
The form's purpose is to let clients commission an artist. It's fucking impossible to design because the data is super nested.
Artists can decide on any number of categories for clients to organize reference material around. This is typically going to be subjects of the image—ie, the people being drawn. When you go to commission an image, you can create references under those categories. So if you want an image of Moot and Hitler making out, you can make two characters. For each of those characters, you can add a description, and any number of reference images.
The level of nesting (Categories -> Things which belong to that category -> Reference images for each individual thing) makes designing this form essentially fucking impossible. Combine that with my own utter lack of any design skills whatsoever, and it's beginning to drive me fucking insane.
Does anybody have any bright ideas on how I could do something like this? It's clear that every change I make on my own just makes my design worse, by some miracle. I know Sup Forums is probably not the best place to go for this kind of advice, but I'm actually going fucking insane here.
Owen Jackson
If I know the following, will I be able to survive as a junior backend developer?
>html (advanced) >css (advanced) >sass >bootstrap >making custom style guides / frameworks for projects >basic command line >python (basic; i.e. variables, functions, classes, etc.) >flask (intermediate) >writing tests and continuous integration >git
I don't care about hire-ability, I just want to know if these skills are enough to survive as a junior dev? And if so, how advanced / well would I need to know them?
Joshua Gray
Throw in a WSGI server (like gunicorn, uWSGI, etc) so that you can run your application as Flask's default server isn't good enough for production.
Improve your command line skills so that you deploy an application with little hassle (bonus for scripting it to achieve one-step deploys and get closer to the other side of CI, Continuous Deployment.)
Also learning how to properly set up a database and maintain it along with your application is very valuable.
Keep learning Flask and Python if you'd like to be a backend Python web developer. The other skills you listed are great.
Asher Smith
I have to become more proficient in python (learn the intricacies of the language like decorators, etc.), more proficient in flask (becoming comfortable with ORMs, learn how to use more of the popular libraries like login, etc., learn how to do extensive testing include ci and cd), learn to deploy beyond just git to a vps, and a shit tonne of other things.
And then when that (which is fucking impossible, theres just no fucking way I'm going to learn all of that from just online resources), chances are the company that hires me is going to tell me "that's great that you're semi comfortable with a python framework that's used by 1% of the industry, now learn this brand new language like Java and this framework that we're using".
I'm so incredibly, royally fucked its not even funny. I dont even know how I thought this was possible at any point.
Fuck my life
Jordan Miller
And what will be in common with Java? OOP transcends languages. Sure there are small details of every language you'll have to learn, but the patterns and general concepts as usually the same. The same goes for continuous integration and deployment.
Don't tie yourself to a particular language, just show that you're able to become proficient in one. Your whole career will be learning new concepts. You'll continuously improve, and picking up new frameworks/languages/concepts will become easier over time, because you'll have encountered and solved many different kinds of problems (including the same problems hundreds of times).
You'll also learn a shit ton on the job. Just getting that first job will be the hardest part, so apply, apply away.
Camden Sullivan
OOP and basic programming concepts might be foundational but they occupy like 1/20th of the 2k page book on python. It's the intricacies that absolutely kill me and make me feel like I'm fighting a losing battle.
