/flt/ - Friendly Linux Thread

Previously on: Welcome to /flt/ - Friendly Linux Thread.
Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread. ***

Before asking for help, please check our list of resources[*].

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine using VirtualBox or other software made for this puporse for safety purposes.
1) Use the Live ISO (if your distribution of choice has one) to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything, that way, you can get to experience the GNU/Linux operating system without installing it.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or macOS, this is recommended if you want to know more about the GNU/Linux operating system.
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

Meet the /fglt/ team:

IRC: irc://chat.freenode.net:6667/flt (6697 for SSL)
If you don't have an IRC client, you can use a web client:
webchat.freenode.net/?channels=flt
kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/flt
WEB: fglt.nl/

* Resources:
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx, ixquick, startpage, whatever.)
$ man
wiki.archlinux.org (Most troubleshoots work on all distros.)
wiki.gentoo.org (Please see comment above.)
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
gnu.org

Other urls found in this thread:

gnu.org/software/bash/
wiki.bash-hackers.org/
grymoire.com/Unix/index.html
mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt
google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml
linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
commandlinefu.com/
shellcheck.net/
explainshell.com/
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Window_manager
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Awesome
github.com/copycat-killer/lain
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/I3
github.com/Airblader/i3
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bspwm
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Spectrwm
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dwm
sourceforge.net/projects/pytyle/
code.google.com/p/pytyle/
github.com/BurntSushi/pytyle3/
bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1058199#p1058199
twily.info/scripts/tiling/
ghostbin.com/paste/z74bj/raw
youtube.com/watch?v=Eluzi70O-P4
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture/Troubleshooting
twitter.com/AnonBabble

> Shell pasta:

The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
gnu.org/software/bash/

The community driven BASH wiki:
wiki.bash-hackers.org/

The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
grymoire.com/Unix/index.html

Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls

SED and AWK; your new best friends:
pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt

Google's Shell Style Guide:
google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml

The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php

Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
commandlinefu.com/

Great online (and offline) linting tool:
shellcheck.net/

Know what you are doing:
explainshell.com/

> Tiling pasta:

/*
Tiling Window Managers:
*/

General informations:
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Window_manager

Awesome:
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Awesome

Awesome + Gaps:
github.com/copycat-killer/lain

i3:
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/I3

i3 + Gaps:
github.com/Airblader/i3

bspwm:
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bspwm

spectrwm:
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Spectrwm

dwm:
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dwm

/*
Tiling scripts (these work DE/WM independent):
*/

Pytyle:
sourceforge.net/projects/pytyle/

Pytyle2:
code.google.com/p/pytyle/

Pytyle3:
github.com/BurntSushi/pytyle3/

Pytyle differences:
bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1058199#p1058199

Horsefuckers tiling BASH scripts:
twily.info/scripts/tiling/

Reminder we have two threads on /t/

One about ported videogames
And one on tutorial videos for system administration and IT
Also check the list of open source games
ghostbin.com/paste/z74bj/raw

Is it just me or is Keepassx2 fucking broken?

Are these one "legal", meaning one can download these without ever possibly having issues with justice?

Please stop trolling. Come to this thread:

Is there a way to make say 7z, read from a file which has passwords in it,which is then read by 7z,and provides passwords to the command if it finds one.
Something similar to this:
alias 7z x='7z x -p$FILE *.7z'

is the linux userbase shrinking?

i was wondering. i felt it peaked with the ubuntu hype in 2010 ish and now it's declining. probably a to do with the decline of forums and boards in general. everyone's on fagbook and tumblr and the nerds have grown up or killed themselves

I'm leaving Gentoo for various reasons and want to try BSD. Anyone know which is better, Free or Open?

this is a troll thread, made to start flamewars and ass
come to the actual thread before the shitposting begins:

Wondering the same. Debian has lost it's charm.

Fuck off, self proclaimed king of Sup Forums.

This. We were here first.

What is the best Linux distro for laptop?

I just came from the front page but it's obvious that the thread that was made also an hour earlier is the official one. Why would somebody start a general about something that already has a general?

As I understand it, OpenBSD is more secure. So go with it.

Does arch support steam?

Of course. Check the arch wiki on how to get steam running

pacman -S steam

Have you used it? I'd like to ask a few questions.

>Have you used it?
Not unironically.

I want grep awk database in timely manner but my pipe is not picking up the nodal timings. What should I do? Is it because of my libraries or should I do 'll'?

see

The other thread is the troll thread though. /flt/ has been around long before the /fglt/

How can one be so butthurt? You're the one trolling here mate.

>Not unironically.

I know right


B-B-but it's GNU SLASH LINUX

This. I've removed all gnu component's from my machines in favor of busybox.

To understand how bad BSD is, you must experience it for yourself. Also, I lack adequate whatever the opposite of superlatives is.

Why not call it Friendly Linus Thread? :^)

Abandon this troll thread. Come to this

Arch linux is the best linux distro of all time.

>how bad BSD is,
Worse than Gentoo? Please, you should report to the troll thread.

Pretty much.
t.debbie and sid.

Wtf niggers? Why is this /flt/ and not /fglt/??

Because /flt/ was first

Seems this thread is about kernel development.
For GNU/Linux general discussions, go

We didnt drink the koolaid.

Why are you so upset?

We're not faglets. It's time we part ways, Stallmanite.

>tfw every time you run "Linux", you run code made by stallman and commadres
post it

I'm upset because you breeded all this shitstorm with your "It's just Linux" faggotry. This thread is meant to be informative and helpful. Calling it "Linux" is disinformative and asks for flamewars, which isn't helpful.

>>tfw every time you run "Linux", you run code made by stallman and commadres
I don't understand why you want me to post it, but here you go.

How well do games run on Linux?
The game I play is osu and it doesn't run that great on my current hardware (i3-2350m, 6gb ddr2), I play with everything "fancy" turned off.

How much of a performance loss am I looking at when playing on WINE or PoL? 8%? 20%? 50%?

What is the best SQL database application for linux? I have gentoo.

Nope, some of us disagree with Stallman and view his work as shit.

You're the one bringing "shitstorm" and "flamewars" with your trolling.
You should take a break from FSS "if you disagree with our leader you're evil" view.

Whats the best place for a complete newbie to start learning how to use linux? How would i switch from win 7 to linux? Also where can i learn to hack people emails, facebooks, instagram etc?

You're free do disagree with his philosophy, but it doesn't change the fact that GNU is an incomplete OS and Linux is an incomplet OS, together it's GNU/Linux, or GNU/Linux-libre, GNU/Hurd, GNU/kfreeBSD, or whatever kernel you're running. Do you really want people who are running a different kernel call their system "Linux"?

>Whats the best place for a complete newbie to start learning how to use linux? How would i switch from win 7 to linux?
I'd suggest Ubuntu as it is easy to install and well documented. Some people like Linux Mint a lot also.

Head straight for Kali in a VM, my child.

You are the one starting the flame wars though.

Elaborate sweet prince

Take a hike, hippie.

Force yourself to learn how to swim by jumping off the diving board into the deep end. You see kid with linux, it's either swim or die.

Good luck, you'll need it.

Install Virtualbox and within that, install Kali. The process is well documented on the official website.

Troll thread, troll answers. He is trolling you!!!

Jump this shinking ship and come to the real thread

>>Why are you so upset?
not sure if they are upset or OP
>rms fights 10 years for software freedom, starts creating a free OS, thousands of people working on it
>linus appears, creates a kernel
>people connect gnu and linux, celebrate the death of microsoft
>demonstrate on the streets, fight against computers being shipped with windows preinstalled
>time passes
>some faggot gets interjected because he called the whole system "linux"
>faggot is SO EXTREME BUTTHURT that he starts hating the root of his pain: the man who started everything: RMS
>he searches the web for things he can destroy RMS with
>calls him a pedophile
>creates It's just Linux threads
>starts to hate freedom, because it's a Stallmanist thing

Very nice, now go back to your off brand general.

This.

so i can find out everything i need from their official website? I just donwloaded this tor browser for the first time i asm about to go on the deep web i guess.... some do's and dont's please?

Learn something about history:
youtube.com/watch?v=Eluzi70O-P4

When using tor browser should you be behind more proxies or vpn's ? or are you pretty well hidden ?

I do not care.

Yes. Usually on a particular Linux Distro's website they will have a tab called "Documentation". Click it and read up

Tor is plenty safe for your uses.

If I switch from "only alsa" to "pulseaudio + alsa", will these two interfere with each other?

pulse requires alsa,it is a layer on top of alsa

They should work

Good to know. Thanks to all.

I mean now, I control the volume with the buttons on my thinkpad's keyboard by putting on my .xbindkeysrc

# Mute
"amixer -q set Master toggle"
m:0x0 + c:121
NoSymbol

# VolDown
"amixer -q set Master unmute && amixer -q set Master 5%-"
m:0x0 + c:122
NoSymbol

# VolUp
"amixer -q set Master unmute && amixer -q set Master 5%+"
m:0x0 + c:123
NoSymbol


and the GUI via the Volume Icon in my tint2 bar. As for this one, I don't know how to configure it. I remember trying months ago and it lead to the sound stopping working at all...

but I have issue with alsa fail to troubleshoot so I consider giving pulseaudio a try

I'm not really sure what you're saying.
>alsa
Put the following in your ~/.asoundrc
pcm.!default {
type hw
card 0
}

ctl.!default {
type hw
card 0
}

>amixer
Grabe pulseaudio-ctl
exp:
# Lower
"pulseaudio-ctl down"
m:0x10 + c:122
Mod2 + XF86AudioLowerVolume


I belive the 'up' and 'down' default to 5%

Ah, sorry. I'll try to describe better.

I am having some issue with the sound (the speaker of my laptop randomly stops. Restarting alsa does nothing. The only way to "fix" is to reboot.)

I tried looking at the logs but there is nothing interesting in journalctl | alsa , nor in dmesg.

Since I don't know how to troubleshoot, I am trying to escape. i was thinking that maybe using pulseaudio would magically solves the issue, but I'm afraid I won't be able to control the sound anymore should I do a mistake.

In my previous post, I described how I am currently controlling the sound, and that I fear about my gui volume icon to stop working.

Did you check the Arch wiki? They have a very thorough write-up on this topic. No offense, this is a very difficult topic to get a handle on when it chooses to be problematic.

I referred to it to tune my keybinds in the first place. I then tried wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture/Troubleshooting but I couldn't find something fit for my issue.

Maybe there's something behind "the speaker randomly stop working, even after restarting alsa" but without logs I'm a bit lost.

Sorry if this doesn't belong in this thread, I don't spend much time on Sup Forums. I'm looking to make the switch to linux but still need Windows for gaming. I'm probably going to make the switch to W10 soon before the free version is unavailable, but I want to make sure that the privacy of my machine isn't compromised.

If I have W10 on my host machine and use linux in a VM, is it even worth it? Or is it worthless and all the spyware that comes with W10 will affect VMs as well. Unfortunately running W10 in a VM and using GPU passthrough isn't an option as my CPU doesn't support it, otherwise I would do that.

It's a mess that we all wish would go away.

Just fully use Linux and dont worry about it. Grow up and stop gamming

But I'm a child user I need my video games.

You should be safe in a VM, encrypt your Linux home folder too, for added protection.

I have heard things like W10 taking screenshots of your desktop and sending it to MS servers. Is that bullshit, or something that can be disabled? If not, does that also not affect VMs?

>/flt/
sure summer is here

fucking trolls everywhere

Or is it one troll talking to itself? A look at the posts seems like a retarder guy spilling random shit.

...

Well fuck me. Dual boot it is then.

...

Can you dualboot?
It is easy to do with ubuntu, it appears more delicate on arch (dunno, I never tied). A linux parition can be quite small compared to what is needed by windows.

This, or you can have separate hard drives
(that's what I do : I have linux on my ssd, and I swap to a windows hdd when I need skype or software only available on windows)

There's a "stop liking what I don't like" retard ITT. There always one of these that come shitposting in linux threads for some reason.

>Sup Forums

quit memeing and go back to your safe space.

Please don't derail this thread. Your trolling is obvious and unfunny.

Yeah, that's my plan now. I should be able to fit all my windows stuff onto my c:\ drive and 1tb drive and leave the 500gb drive i have for linux. Haven't decided on which distro though. Obviously Ubuntu is talked about for beginners a lot so I might go that route, or just straight Debian although I'm not quite sure what the benefit of that may be if I do.

That is plain mean. You started this thread after another was already up to start a flamewar. Accussing us of what you do is pure evil.

/flt/ was first and then trolls/literal autists started spamming /fglt/

In case of doubt about the system's name, just ask the system itself.

You can delete this thread now and head over to the actual friendly thread:

Some people like to call it linux for short though.

whoops, correct link:

So you ARE starting a flamewar

Apparently a mod is involved user, because in your post it doesn't show a link to the other thread, only a link to this one. Can't you see it?

So anyway, where does all the hate for systemd come from?

If you're searching for a short name, just say GNU since Linux is just a kernel some people even don't use.