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Other urls found in this thread:

gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.en.html
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications
pastebin.com/pmsgQzfE
fsf.org.
alternativeto.net/
debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-ftparchives
debian.org/releases/
ghostbin.com/paste/z74bj/raw
youtube.com/watch?v=Eluzi70O-P4
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

How can I discover new open-source programs for my GNU/Linux, beside APT SEARCH? I would like some programs that I couldn't find there...

I was trying to get rid of some bloat on KDE through Discover (games, duplicate applications, etc.) and when I rebooted, I got the black screen. I was able to save myself by using sudo apt-get install kde-full. What's a better way to get rid of bloat?

>freedom
>GPL license forces you to publish ALL your project under it should you use a bit of GPL licensed code

to ensure the freedom of your users.
if you are a proprietary fag, just use another license, it is not hard, nobody forces you to use the GPL.

You think that freedom is get freedom-full source code and turn it proprietary?

Is there an "interjection"-style copypasta that we can use to reply to people using the term "open source" when they mean "free/libre and open source" or "FLOSS"?

you could make one out of this: gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.en.html

Is there a way to lock firefox addons? I had a bit of a scare, with some website asking me to install some garbage, and now I'm worried something is hidden in my addons somehow.

I'm a freetard in my free time. I use MIT license for my stuff. I don't think it would be for my "freedom" if gnu RMS forces me to use his license should I take inspiration from a code under GPL. Also, if a dude wants to fork me, who am I to force him to use the exact same license?

There's no such ego battle with MIT and BSD hence my personal inclination not to use GPL except if I *really* need it. (Which is the same inclination I have toward proprietary code)

Anyone using KDE Neon?

>the freedom to make users nonfree is pro freedom
this is where we (as in you and me) disagree.

what kind of programs ?
Here's a list of linux programs in general. You should find them on your distribution
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications

I'm at 1300 characters, help me shorten it a bit?
pastebin.com/pmsgQzfE

I concluded that HTTPS Everywhere is a piece of shit, because I created new rulesets and they were never approved. Which HTTPS-enabling, open-source addon, should I use in my Firefox?

I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

you could remove:
>More information on free software and the free software movement can be found on fsf.org.

i hope this pasta won't be misused.

I'm looking for:
>file recovery (like Recuva on Windows?)
>YouTube Uploader
>Instagram photo downloader
>Facebook photo downloader

I guess, but I'm still at 1500 characters (didn't count spaces earlier).

You should not use YouTube, Instagram or Facebook as those are websites requiring you to run nonfree software to use them as well as spy on you.

I used to use an USB DAC on my raspi mpd server, but now I removed it and switched to the analog jack. However, I thought I reconfigured it all but if I want to change the volume I can't through ncmpcpp.
I have to go to the terminal on the server, do alsamixer -c 0 and then change it.

Any ideas on what's wrong?

>>file recovery (like Recuva on Windows?)
testdisk, ddrecovery, photorec...
>>YouTube Uploader
wget/curl, but avoiding youtube would be the more ethical thing to do.
>>Instagram photo downloader
wget
>>Facebook photo downloader
wget

Try looking at alternativeto.net/
You will find alternatives to (almost) any software.
You can also specify Linux to get only Linux programs.

>You should not use YouTube, Instagram or Facebook as those are websites requiring you to run nonfree software to use them
Except they don't?.

>Except they don't?.
except they execute nonfree javascript on your computer.

Hello there! You seem to have used the term "open source".

This term was created by a group of people that did not want to be associated with the free software movement. When I say "free" software (one of the alternatives preferable to "open source"), It's not about price; in that case I would say "gratis", or "free as in free beer". It's about freedom! Is for this that the free software movement is fighting for.

So what is "free" software? Free software is any software, that guarantees the user the four essential software freedoms:
>0. Run the program as you wish.
>1. Study the source code and change it so it does what you wish.
>2. Redistribute exact copies of the program.
>3. Distribute your modified version of the program.

Some people decided that they wanted to restrict the user; but being able to study and modify the "open source" code is not enough! This is directly hurting the cause of the free software movement because it takes away the sociological "freedom" aspect of free software and turns into a technological issue...

So for those reasons I ask that, in the future, you use the terms "free", "free/libre" or, if necessary "FLOSS" (short for "free/libre and open source"), though the latter should still be avoided.

Which nonfree software do I need to use these sites?

All JS engines are open source.

the engines are but the code it executes often isn't, also see

I don't know Windows programs to upload to YouTube, and download from Facebook and Instagram.

Nice trips.
Next time maybe clean up the spelling a little bit more and it's good to go.

I don't know how to care about nonfree JS. Are you talking about trackers?

>the code it executes often isn't
You can literally see source code for any JS script in your browser. What are you talking about?

I'm just helping the user that wasn't really motivated and couldn't make this copypasta shorter.

But remember goyim, you don't need that freedom with other data like art. Exceptions can be made!

philosophical consistency what the fuck is that

>rms
>more like rsm
>real selfish motherfucker

>wget
>non-interactive

How am I supposed to use a program that doesn't interacts with me?

>see
and this is why calling it open source is a retarded idea.

What are the differences between Ubuntu and Debian?

>data-like art

Are you talking about movies, books, etc?

Ubuntu adds patches (that often break things or break themselves) and makes it even more of a point release by not providing updates. to really understand the difference you need to know how the debian development uses the experinental>sid>testing>stable>oldstable chain.

>to really understand the difference you need to know how the debian development uses the experinental>sid>testing>stable>oldstable chain
how does debian development uses the experinental>sid>testing>stable>oldstable chain?

Upstream makes perfectly good software

Debian fucks it up with their shitty patches

The longer it goes without bug reports, the further down in the chain it goes

there is pretty much no serious testing or auditing they just hope it doesn't break since it's been reliable up to this point

debian is the toyota corolla of linux

everything is running fine and then your head gasket blows and leaks flaming passwords everywhere

Why are Debian patches shitty?
Here it was said that Ubuntu patches that are bad!

Because they're patches that upstream, the people who actually know their own codebase somewhat well, rejected for being too shitty.

Hello, I've been using Kubuntu for some time and I have tons of problems with plasma. Moving icons around in dolphin or on the "desktop" is very slow. It seems to move to the cursor basing on coordinates it generated instead of setting position or just using linear interpolation to cursors position. Next problem is lack of support for my VGA adapter. There's something wrong with my GPU and my whole PC loses power when I connect more than one screen to DVI port but it works with DVI + DVI->VGA. I've written data about my screen to that xorg(?) file and it works but sometimes I have to do it again as the file is deleted randomly. Next problem, panels at the bottom are sometimes placed on wrong screen and overlaps each other. Enabling xinerama disables plasma. I'm fixing everything myself as I don't want to go back to Windows, my experience is much nicer on Linux but these problems are not very nice and I would love to get rid of them. Have anyone had similiar difficulties? Should I just get rid of the whole KDE and go back to one of these new Gnome2 forks? Sorry for taking that much of your time and I wish you an amazing day, my friends :)

install gentoo

I'm trying to boot from a live USB at my uni's comp lab. I guessed the bios password, but I can't enable USB recognition.

The BIOS says F5 to enable it, but it doesn't recognise the function keys. Instead says below
Local F1: Help
Remote: F5 = Esc + 5
etc.

How do I input and F5? If I press Esc, it gets out of the menu. Pressing 5 and then Esc seems to do nothing.

What do I do?

Sorry, I didn't mean to quote.

Thank you, friend. I'll check if it runs better.

>>everything is running fine and then your head gasket blows and leaks flaming passwords everywhere
sounds like you never used debian
debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-ftparchives
debian.org/releases/
basically new packages go to experimenta, if they don't break everything they go to unstable/sid, if they don't break anything they go to testing within ~2 weeks, if they don't break anything they make it into stable. this ensures that most/all bugs and problems are known and can be avoided.

usb is usbloat

PXEboot install gentoo

I did

They accidentally openssl. Twice.

So the first guy was dead on? Thanks. I'll install gentoo instead.

this is why you use apt-listbugs
who is "they"? do you know how big the debian community is?

no, he was probably a fedora rawhide or gentoo user. both of these are fine but being completely like upstream is not always the best thing to do, and debian doesn't actually patch a lot, they are known for their fast security updates and patches though. listening to people that are this one-sided is often a very bad idea.
but go ahead and install gentoo (or better funtoo), that is pretty nice as well.

I was looking for a serious reply. I can't boot into the USB unless I enable it from the bios. How do I input F5 into that? It's not getting the F5 key and the instructions are unclear.

10/10 thank you for this delicious pasta.

Whats wrong with my mate. I run 4 monitors in a 2x2 square config. for some reason when there is a monitor above the one with the MATE panel on it programs start to clip through the panel as seen on the right in the screenshot and at the top. it needs to work how it does on the left. otherwise th eonly way i can close or move programs is to right click them at the bottom.

What's the best way to turn a picture into grayscale in imagemagick?

Could someone give me a hand with my Bluetooth configuration? I'm trying to transfer files between my Thinkpad and my Android phone by configuring a Bluetooth connection through the CLI. When I issue a 'connect *MAC address*' command I get an error message saying that it failed.

you just tell it what to do.

hello negros, just switched from windolls to xubuntu.
how do i make win + e to go to /home/username like wangdolls?

Settings -> Keyboard
You'll figure it out.

...

woah, it was easier than i expected. thanks.
shut up negro.

Np.
A hint: don't set Super (Windows key) to the xfce appfinder or whisker-menu by itself (like how the start menu opens when you press Win in Windows) because then it'll end up opening whenever you use a shortcut using the Super key. (in Windows the start menu actually opens when you press AND RELEASE the Win key).
I like to have either the appfinder or whisker-menu on Super+R because then it's similar to Windows' Run command.

> Super+R
> type part of application name
> Enter
> Program launched
I don't even use the mouse for the menu anymore and deactivated the Panel I used as a dock. Only have the "taskbar" at the top now.

>Windows key
>Win key
nigger wat

Bamp. Pretty please. This shit is harder than hacking the Gibson.

The key you press to automatically win in video games, scrub.
In GNU/Linux you refer to it as the Super key, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Super plus key. In Windows, it's the Windows key or short: Win key.

thank you. what's the whiskers menu command? i couldn't find it in the keyboard part. win + r starts app finder.

kill yourself dumb tripfag

hey i forgot to delete it

xfce4-popup-whiskermenu I believe.
> literally use duckduckgo for 10 seconds

oh yeah, thanks. it worked.

> Google
NO

but google gives better results.

Uh

How do fuck do I make duckduckgo not suck? It can't even find Sup Forums when I spell it for it.

Please stop using pictures of Stallman in the Op

He is detrimental to the Linux community

0) Why would you search for Sup Forums when you can just enter boards.Sup Forums.org/g in your address bar or have a shortcut or a bookmark?
1) Set your search provider in GNU Icecat (Because that's the browser you're using, right user? Right?) to DuckDuckGo (personally I've set it to DuckDuckGo images because most of the time when I'm searching for shit it's images).
2) ???
3) Profit.
Seriously, what's wrong with it other than that you can't just type [fetish] porn when you want to have a quick fap?

Learn to read. This thread is about the GNU/Linux system, not just the Linux kernel and its community. Since Dr. Stallman is the driving force behind the GNU project (which has contributed a much larger percentage to the GNU/Linux system) I think it is only fitting to have him as our "mascot".

>you can just enter boards.Sup Forums.org/g in your address bar or have a shortcut or a bookmark?
That's not the issue. The issue is the search engine not being able to find something I'm basically spelling for it. I hate google as much as any other fucker, but I'm not going to use a subpar search engine if it's useless. A lamp without a light bulb sure is eco-friendly, but of no use.

>Seriously, what's wrong with it other than that you can't just type [fetish] porn when you want to have a quick fap?
You can't? What do the brackets do, anyway?

In the common vernacular, Linux refers to the operating system as a whole, not just the kernel. No need to thank me for enlightening you, I'm here to help!

Also, GNU isn't even a third of the software essential to make linus' kernel a fully functioning OS. In fact, the vast majority of "OS" functions are provided by the monolithic kernel. The kernel can be booted all by itself and run as an OS (init as the program you want to run). But, due to the design of the kernel, init is essential for running additional programs, so init is the other half of the OS. It's systemd/linux, if anything. And now that systemd has absorbed udev, it's definitely systemd/linux. Oh sorry, GNU does device management? Where? On GUIX?

So how do you "spell it for the search engine"?
g, or Sup Forums? Because whoop de fuckin doo, I don't think Jewgle will help you in those cases either.
> what do brackets do anyway
> doesn't even know how to use a search engine
> I DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT IT MUST BE SHIT

Referring to the GNU/Linux operating system as just Linux is harmful to the free software movement and undermines its cause: the user's freedom. If you refuse to call it by its whole name you suggest that the part the GNU project played in the development of the GNU/Linux OS was so minimal it isn't worth mentioning, and that the contribution of a single opportunistic Finn with no interest in software freedom is the single most important thing about the entire system.
Therefore, if you refuse to give the GNU project credit for the work it has done in creating the GNU/Linux operating system, you oppose software freedom and are part of the system that is keeping computer users under the boots of proprietary software developers. Your like are one of the reasons why we still have spyware, security problems in software, inflated software cost and price and unethical distribution practices.

Sorry I triggered you, user.
TRIGGER WARNING

I google "boards Sup Forums g", the first result is what I was looking for. Do the same with duckduckgo... and well, shit goes in all fields.

I will try to use searx with proper sources so you can stop being mad.

>doesn't even know how to use a search engine
Knowing the fine details doesn't hinder me from using it. I guess I'll have to Google it since you didn't explain it in your post.

You do realize that not all Linux users care about the FSF or bending labels to appease Stallmans narcissism? If he wants credit for his work, he should let it speak for itself, not shoehorn a reference to it in front of a common label.

Plus the open source model is superior to "free" software of the kind stallman promotes which locks down the end users choice with their own system.

Reminder we have two threads on /t/ - Torrents

One about ported videogames
And one on tutorial videos for system administration and IT
Also check the list of open source games
ghostbin.com/paste/z74bj/raw

>locks down
Jesus christ, please leave the gene pool, retard.

Remember:
Ignore Microsoft/anti-Linux trolls.
Ignore BSD/anti-GNU trolls.
Ignore anti-OpenRC/anti-Upstart/anti-Mir trolls.

Mark them as bait. You are invited to share/create copypasta to prevent doubts they create.

>tripfag cancer
>shitposts
I'm not surprised.

>can't download the software YOU want on FSF approved distros
>"freedom"

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as GNU/Linux is in fact GNU. Linux is not part of the operating system itself, but is the kernel that is not covered by the naming system of an operating system as defined by common sense.

Many users run operating systems such as Windows, OSX, and a variant of BSD yet do not use a cumbersome naming system that includes the kernel, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, GNU has been the exception to this for no reason and has just been called "Linux" for no good reason, and many others use the insane, cumbersome term "GNU/Linux", mostly because the GNU project doesn't want you to think that Linux is a part of GNU.

There really is a Linux, and it's not part of GNU, but it's a kernel, and no one really specifies using it. GNU is the OS; the actual base system you interact with, and is useful with any compatible kernel; it can function with many different kernels such as GNU Mach or even kFreeBSD, so the whole system should only specify the kernel when it matters, because all these kernels are really irrelevant regarding GNU.

*whenever you can

gtk and GNOME along with GNOME softwares are all GNU. Grow the fuck up and do some research before you post your spams, weaboo degenerate

You can. You're just to retarded to realize that. Now jump in a lake, and take your disinformations with you, idot.

>not all Linux users care about the FSF
They should, though, because the FSF is fighting for their freedom as well.
> appease Stallmans narcissism
What gave you the idea that he's narcissistic?
> if he wants credit for his work
Which is quite understandable.
> he should let it speak for itself
Because that works so well for proprietary products that never have to resort to advertising, aggressive marketing and lawsuits to get people to buy their shit and willingly give up their freedom.
> not shoehorn a reference to it in front of a common label.
This """common label""" was only applied to the system by journalists with no interest in software freedom and without a clue about the system because the Linux kernel was at the time the newest part of the OS and thus the headline eye catcher. In fact, the GNU system had existed for years before the Linux kernel was "shoehorned" into it; if anything, the fact that we call the OS GNU/Linux now is a compromise in favor of Torvalds.
> open source model is superior to "free" software
How is it superior? It restricts the end user and promotes oppression.
> which locks down the end users choice with their own system
What does that even mean? Under the GPL the end user can at any point in time change any part of his Free system if he so chooses, or have someone else to change it for him. He can then distribute the improved version to everyone that wants it. Alternatively, he can find the improved version someone else already made and install it. Compare with open source, nobody but the original author can distribute versions of the software so if the dev goes under or just can't be arsed to fix his program, every single end user has to change his own system and can't just give his friends the fixed version.

Please add this to the OP, I'm interested but can't torrent at work.

Objectively, literally, factually, absolutely wrong.

Please educate yourself before posting.
You can watch this video to learn the basics about GNU and Linux' relationship: youtube.com/watch?v=Eluzi70O-P4

Hope it helps. Enjoy.

Implying I use any software from the footfetish foundation

It's not even in the repositories for """"""free""""""" systems

>Use Debian Testing on Dell laptop for a few months
>love it (right amount of packages, decent OSS drivers out the box, *might be autistic but love the logo*, etc.)
>Not completely knowledgeable of Linux, but just enough do most of my taks via CLI (nano, ranger, etc.)

>Decide to use it on my main desktop with an AMD APU
>Install netinst testing, Xfce4/i3 and programs like Firefox and Steam
>Slight audio stuttering every few seconds
>I think the OSS video drivers makes Linux games and compositing software like compton run like horse shit
>So I try to install proprietary video drivers for the solution
>Asks for dependencies already installed, too stupid to know how to fix this weird problem and getting no results on Google
>Okay I'm too stupid and lazy to fix this, maybe I'll just try something like Ubuntu with almost-out-the-box proprietary video drivers

>games run fine I guess, audio still stutters a bit
>Like 2k+ packages installed right off the bat
>my autism can't deal
loonix pls

>Please add this to the OP, I'm interested but can't torrent at work.
I don't know who makes the OP user, I haven't edit the OP in months now. Maybe he see this and makes the edit.

Also 10/10, great arguments you have and the other anons. Many here are lurkers and try not to talk to the trolls but we share your same opinion.