>NEET guide to web dev employment pastebin.com/4YeJAUbT/ >How to get started youtube.com/watch?v=pB0WvcxTbCA - "WATCH THIS IF YOU WANT TO BECOME A WEB DEVELOPER! - Web Development Career advice" youtube.com/watch?v=zf_cb_Nw5zY) - "JavaScript is Easy" - If you can't into programming, you probably won't find a simpler introduction to JavaScript than this.
Does the SEO tutorials and other shit really help attract traffic to my website? I want to spend $0.
Jackson Martinez
Django == best framework
Robert Gonzalez
Any ways I can improve this design?
Jaxon Wilson
>is asking an imageboard how to make an imageboard
Christopher Bell
Naw, it's a textboard.
Sebastian Kelly
That's a weird way to spell Laravel, family
Aaron Stewart
I have no gripes against Laravel tbf famalamilio
Adrian Long
Padding on the left side. Make it the same size as the padding on the bottom
Mason Hill
>The Next Steve Jobs
So she's going to be a vapid marketing asshole whose BFF does all the technical shit, then she'll take the money and run?
Matthew Allen
SERVICEWORKER AND PUSH API IS BULLSHIT AND SO IS GOOGLE FOR THE CLOUD MESSAGING API
FUCK
Jose Thompson
ah good then famalamadingdong
Jaxon Richardson
Quads checked.
I got nothing but dubs.
Zachary Clark
>he cares about repeating digits
William Garcia
opinions on heroku? I want to deply my flask/sqlite app there
Benjamin Flores
>he posts frogs
Luke Perry
>the next hippie stoner neurotic geek CEO with family problems
Nolan Rivera
>he can't quote me
Caleb Edwards
>people can't even be arsed to quote
Sebastian Sanchez
dumb frogposter
Jeremiah Rivera
>he can't see me
Jaxon Price
...
Matthew Collins
Laravel is a clusterfuck.
Asher Green
@55445775 [greentext]greentexting is fun[/greentext]
Juan Foster
elaborate
Samuel Harris
lol don't be a new-fag =)
Anthony Gray
/triforce
Jayden Brown
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Ryder Cooper
>> 55445819 how do you quote?
Carter Morgan
>Be me >Last week started my internship at this big-ass design/development/marketing company >I'm now an front-end developer intern fresh out of college >I'm surrounded by professionals and feel like a total idiot despite being above average of my class
Any advice how to get the best of the next 3 months while I'm there?
Colton Lewis
Don't mind me, I think all frameworks are clusterfucks.
Leo Ross
Bravo and too right.
This actually reminded me of something I've been wanting to ask this group for a long time. I'm curious about this side of the industry, I'm about to finish my portfolio and start applying.
What kind of shit bags is this industry filled to the brim with? Is it really full of hipster fucks with their horrid gauges and full sleeve tats? 90% macfag? Will I run into people that actually like technology or a bunch of hipsters looking for a meme tech job?
Obviously this is dependent on which company I work for but I get the feeling it's not a bunch of normal white guys that keep their social and political opinions to themselves.
Why do I picture tumblr in this industry? Please tell me it's all in my head.
Chase Howard
Frameworks are for pajeets and hipsters.
Levi Martin
You're an intern, they won't expect too much from you. Learn as much as you can from the people around you, make friends and connections, and if you like it there you could possibly angle for a full time position after your internship ends.
Speaking of internships, I got shortlisted for a 2 year internship at a major bank. Is it normal for internships to be that long? They probably expect me to do the work of a full-time employee while making less than minimum wage for 2 years, fuck that imo.
Brody Hughes
Usabilty aside, how hard would it be to code this? How many hours and also how many times would a frontend dev say he wants to kill himself?
you might as well take it mate, its better than working in amazon warehouse or some shit for two years and then hanging yourself
Jeremiah Brooks
Btw it's funny how those designers never give a fuck about how it would look like on screens of different sizes.
Luke Campbell
pretty sure only a handful of people would be able to run a website like that
Nicholas Butler
Fucking hell that looks like a lot of CSS. Get fucked senpai, especially if you need it to be responsive.
Jose Allen
I need the money though because I just graduated this year and I already have student loans trying to bend me over. A two year internship would probably cause me to kill myself anyway.
Sebastian Thomas
Thanks for the reply m8. Right now my brains are literally boiling from the amount of information I'm trying to absorb. Among the thing they use are: >Git (Bitbucket with Source Tree) >Sass (Compass all over the fuckin place), >Bootstrap >jQuery >vanila JS (fuckin hell the shit they write in it is unbelievable and completely beyond me right now) >PHP with Laravel (no way in hell they'll let me near that right now)
And allot more.
It's just frustrating for someone who used to be senior sysadmin who switched career to become a developer to feel this clueless.
James Young
Yeah, it would take so much resources, eh? It kinda sucks that shit like this still can't be easily played by any device of today, though.
I ain't coding it, just stumbled upon it and wondered. It would probably give me nightmares though, considering I already got angry while trying to make a simple button border animation with SVG once.
Hunter Harris
I started my internship with JSF. Now that's was hell on earth
Joshua Sanders
2 year internship with lowest pay imaginable. Bank are truly the vilest serpents of this planet.
Fuck this, keep looking.
Easton Morris
I reckon if you performed well they would likely cut that short, If you want to work for a bank you pretty have to go through shit like that now, over here they call it a "graduate program"
James Green
You'll get it eventually. You'll be working with that stack every day so you will become better at it. Don't push yourself too much or you won't learn much.
I'd love to be working in that environment. I know all of those you mentioned bar Git, I only know how to commit, push, and pull from a main branch.
Tyler Miller
>fresh out of college >that stack
college for web development is a huge ruse, i wish companies would realize you dont need to be a computer scientist to work on your shitty php 5.3 CRUD system
(might not be your particular case but I wanted to blog my feelings)
Xavier Harris
Thanks for kind word mate, really appreciate it. Git is one of the things that keeps me awake, especially those merge conflicts :(
Logan Bennett
This. Real programmers use only light libraries and stdlib.
Samuel Harris
That's basically it. They contacted the CS department at my college and asked for the "top students" in their final year. I don't know why they would offer it as a 2 year program - surely it won't take more than a year to figure out if someone will be good enough in the long run.
Even one of my lecturers said fuck internships. Some employers exploit students as a means of getting cheap labor because they now we're desperate for experience related to our field of work.
Tyler Lopez
>hates vanilla the fuck is wrong with you?
and that list of things is nothing...junior dev new hires are often asked to know more than that.
which reminds me...there is so much shit in web dev that it makes you feel like you are two steps behind
Jeremiah Cox
Real programmer use dragon dildos, fuck off.
Gavin Walker
Watch how everybody does shit. Try to do some shit they do yourself just to learn it, even if their version is what gets put to use,
Mason Sullivan
>tfw I'm in one of them >well, not really, but it is like a third/fourth of the undergraduate degree >I hate my life
I learned HTML, CSS, JS, jQ and PHP in 4 courses (bad organization, could be put in 1 or 2 oh well), C++ in introductory programming and I even needed to make a responsive frontend with a CSS framework for the assignment in one of my courses.
>tfw there were two courses about user research and all that shit (basically UX) and internet marketing. And of course, a web design course. Hold me.
>at least the first year was the standard CS/SE or whatever, but relatively easy.
Nolan Bailey
I don't hate JS, in fact I love it. I was just saying the the level they write it is simply too advanced for me.
I will learn it, just a matter of time.
For any mystery can be solved through the application of knowledge and unrelenting effort.
Luke Russell
I feel your pain breh
Aiden Jackson
I got you beat.
>tfw there were 3 html classes >html 1 >html 2 (a refresher of html 1) >html 3 (I don't even remember this shit because it was so repetitive)
I had a fucking class that was purely for inserting home media tags into your page. The final was insert a video file, insert audio, and add subtitles to the video file.
Jeremiah Williams
Don't push the text so far to the left. TEST segment should be offset about 15% to the left.
Replies also should be slightly more centered.
Reconsider having a lighter title background on dark text background. The focus should have a light backdrop to draw attention.
Jace Hughes
Oh I misinterpreted what you wrote then.
Brody Torres
Is it possible to be successful as a generalist in this industry? Meaning doing either design, frontend, backend or all of them at once in different jobs but never focusing on any one particular thing. I ask because that's basically what I've been doing for the last 5 years, but I'm finding it increasingly difficult to find work these days.
Josiah Hernandez
a "rockstar"?
Joshua Cook
>be mainly interested in C programming and low level stuff >decide to try my hand at web development because that's where all the jobs are >trying to learn javascript
How do you people deal with this rat's nest? Why is the standard library not worth a damn?
Dylan Rodriguez
im sure web devs feel the same about regular programming
Aiden Bailey
What?
Angel Reed
But other languages include good standard libraries and include a lot of features that make it easier to reason about types and catch errors before they happen.
Javascript has nothing, really.
It's OK as a web scripting language, because i guess you don't need to do much more than two-way binding and async updates, but I wouldn't use javascript for anything more than that.
Grayson Johnson
I worked with some Python and it is infinitely comfier than webdev.
Then again, it's Python, and I only made 100 loc scripts, while Java and C++ were, in my exp, shitty to work with, so yeah.
Hunter Nelson
it's pretty cool actually
Brody Bell
Are you learning ES3/5 by any chance?
Mason Sanders
Check out webassembly
>WebAssembly or wasm is an experimental efficient low-level programming language for in-browser client-side scripting, which is currently in development. Its initial aim is to support compilation from C and C++, though other source languages are also intended to be supported. WebAssembly is a portable abstract syntax tree which is designed to be faster to parse than JavaScript, as well as faster to execute.
>WebAssembly was first announced on 17 June 2015[6] and on 15 March 2016 was demonstrated executing Unity's Angry Bots in Firefox,[7] Chromium, Google Chrome,[8] and Microsoft Edge.[9]
Chrome and Firefox are almost fully compliant. Even the next Edge and Safari/iOS versions will be almost fully compliant. But yes, anyone not using Chrome or Firefox is a retard. (Tail call optimization has been moved to a different milestone)
Ethan Hall
a cs degree
Austin Green
>>Laravel Vishnu
How racist.
Henry Nguyen
Kinda standard in web development but still you should have something to really specialise in.
Caleb Mitchell
tumblr is all in your head its like 2000 people on a planet of billions cuckolding your genitals 24/7/365 with Dark nigger magic because you CRAVE it
Can I get some feedback on the design? First page is landing page, second page is logged in
Kevin Wood
I like the simple layout.
Two things stand out to me immediately: - The background is too bright, and the solid white looks a little tacky. Maybe consider using a light gray/silver color? - The bar that shows channels doesn't seem to have much information displayed. Do you plan on displaying things other than name? If not, I'd suggest making it a little thinner horizontally, and make the images a little smaller. As a user, I'd rather see more channels at once than have large buttons.
Austin Powell
I've never had the chance to specialize in anything, because all the jobs I've had involved doing pretty much everything, usually as the sole developer. But it's as if those kinds of jobs have been disappearing and everyone wants to hire teams of specialists now instead of a single generalist like me.
Ian Ortiz
Alright I'll try to make it smaller. I have been thinking about putting additionial info on but I dont know what as its a really simple app
Justin Sanders
I have an odd question. Hopefully you guys can help, even though it could be a /gd/ question, too.
Anytime I download an icon from flaticon or a similar site for testing purposes, it has a clipping path around the main object? Why do they do this? I'm making some bespoke icons for a site and I'm wondering why this *seems* to be the best practice.
Jose Butler
Vanilla JavaScript is miraculously awful. It only begins to become tolerable using a framework like jQuery that takes away a lot of the bloat and redundancy.
Hudson Ward
How is code generated for really complex pages?
Like, there's no way moot originally coded the whole front pages of boards.
James Powell
Thats not really complex. Its literally displaying database stuff with some basic css/html
Sebastian Sanders
Well not complex, just repetitive I guess.
Lincoln Murphy
What do you mean with that? Its normal coding
Jeremiah Moore
imageboards are not complex at all m9
Asher Cruz
Depends on the imageboard m8.
Samuel Evans
I need a generic system for taking and displaying orders. the idea is that this will be used in different contexts, so the users will be asked to enter different types of data (name, type of order, specifications, comments, ...). I'm not sure if I should build it myself, or if I should just use someone else's tool. does something like this exists? would any random CMS be enough? what would you suggest?
Jordan Bell
Why do you think all of those big-ass heavy JS frameworks are so popular?
Easton Ross
Because web devs are typically lazy faggots. TypeScript makes it a lot more manageable.
Jaxon Anderson
>top math score in the country >56% is still the top
Jose James
C isn't exactly known for its standard library...
Connor Thompson
the bloat is real
Nathan Morales
Also want to know this. Getting contracted for SEO shit because I'm "good with computers" but everything I've read online sounds like snake oil.
Any good and comprehensive guides?
Jaxson Campbell
user, why aren't you using Sailor/Lua for your websites?
