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I have a large VM image I want to backup every week. Should I use gzip/bzip2/something else?
Robert Clark
Gonna be picking up a Thinkpad X201 in a few days, gonna be using it for school while i study for a business IT degree. any distro recommendations? I've fucked around a little with linux in the past but I'd say I'm still a bit of a novice with it. should i pussy out and just use ubuntu or should i use something like debian or fedora?
Mason Williams
Thank you based Torvalds for open sourcing your kernel. Thank you based Stallman for starting up GNU.
John Cruz
Thank you based Poettering for giving it all cancer.
Parker Wood
Thank you based Steve Jobs for creating great user experiences and innovation.
Dylan Campbell
It's very underrated on Sup Forums for some reason.
Ian Torres
How's the program called that shows a penguin like in pic related?
Ian Peterson
What's the point of using derivative distros, though? I can install a different DE in Debian, and some derivatives have their own repos that tend to be less robust than the original distro's (eg. Manjaro).
Michael Parker
linux
Christian Hill
>Manjaro >less robust You have no idea what you're talking about.
Josiah James
My god that's fucking beautiful
Chase Jones
Is Manjaro not the one with the shitty extra repo that has a bunch of packages 2 weeks behind the Arch repos?
>set your system clock back a month and they're FUTURE packages
Dylan Nguyen
2 days-2 weeks, depends on the package category. No delay for security patches. Also: Nice meme. Their webdeb surely should be fired, but the distro is pretty good.
Zachary Ortiz
So then why not just use Arch and have no delay? It just seems pointless.
Ayden Rogers
XUbuntu here. I have a TV plugged into HDMI and 2 dell monitors plugged daisy chain into 1 display port. When on my linux partition if my monitors go to sleep Linux completely forgets they ever existed and deletes panels I made for them etc. Also happens if I boot into my partition with only the HDMI TV on. Anyway to avoid this? Other than turn off the monitors going to sleep setting.
Ryder Bell
How big is the performance change In installing gentoo ?
Matthew Reed
>Is Manjaro not the one with the shitty extra repo that has a bunch of packages 2 weeks behind the Arch repos? >manjaro has own repo, which is 2 weeks behind arch kek, wat
Xavier King
I have a folder of perl scripts(/home/user/bin/perl_scripts) Said folder is in my $PATH. Said folder is in my $PERL5LIB. There is a pm file that all the other scripts run off of, the settings. When i try to execute it in a folder that is not the folder the scripts are located in, it errors out saying it cannot find the pm file.It lists the folder path in the lib folders in the error. Permissions are all set to 777, until i fix this problem. All files are owned by the user. What am i doing wrong?
Ayden Cruz
The delays aren't there because they think "lel, just let's delay packages". Use your brain.
Blake Sanchez
Because sometimes the latest releases just fucking aren't stable t. Arch user
Caleb Flores
>wants stability >doesn't use debian stable
my sides user
John Powell
>what is rolling back to a stable package version
Isaac Morgan
What is not getting broken packages in the first place? Retard
James Young
>trying to install Debian Stable >website says "copy the ISO to a USB drive, then boot from it" >it doesn't work
>another section of the website says to use "cp debian.iso /dev/sdX" to single out the USB >"Cannot create regular file: Permission denied"
I feel seriously retarded right now.
Dylan Phillips
The "other section" of the website is what's retarded.
It should be dd debian.iso /dev/sdX , not cp.
Oliver Jenkins
Now it's telling me the ISO is an "unrecognized operand".
Daniel Thomas
Whoops I messed that up:
dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdX
Luke Williams
just stick to Windoze if you're clinically retarded. They made it just for you.
Brayden Lewis
"failed to open; permission denied."
Write Protect is off on the flash drive in question.
Levi Allen
sudo...
Aaron Perez
F R I E N D L Y R I E N D L Y I E N D L Y E N D L Y N D L Y D L Y L Y Y
Jonathan Sanchez
Reposting from last thread
Jackson James
>Don't ignore me you rancid swine kek my fucking sides
Ethan Gray
Reposting because I didn't really get any good answers
Josiah Martinez
>get really good answers Why can you google it your self? You were given an answer
Kevin Smith
Can you not read? I'm asking for suggestions from other Linux users. >You were given an answer Both answers were CLI-only. Again, learn to read.
Cooper Thompson
I don't like the answer != I didn't get an answer
Learn how to use the CLI, all the best stuff is found there.
Carson Ortiz
Stop telling me what I should want. You're not helping at all.
Nicholas Torres
>Learn how to use the CLI, all the best stuff is found there.
True, but telling that to n00bs who don't care is the reason why the GNU/Linux community gets shat on.
Brandon Moore
We are helping you realize, that there are other more interactive, low latency options to get your solution.
There is a HUGE resouce list in the first post. We dont know what you are looking for or what features you want. Tar suites your needs.
Adrian Cox
Don't tel meh what I can't do
Henry Watson
Actually I've used Linux for over 2 years now and know well how to use the Unix shell. However, it is absolutely retarded to think that everything is better done in a CLI environment.
Who the fuck thinks organising pictures, for example, is better with shell commands? Sure CLI is better for a lot of things, but whoever thinks it's absolutely better in every circumstance should really kill themselves (like the guy you're replying to)
Mason Evans
Extracting and creating archives is nothing like organizing photos.
Ian Hill
You may want to open a readme file without extracting the entire archive. You may want to only extract certain files. You may want to choose whether to create a new file for the extracted archive. You may just want to fucking drag and drop the contents into a file manager.
If I download an archive, I want to open it from a file manager, extract it and be done with it without opening a terminal.
Ever heard of "user experience"?
Logan Green
We dont owe you a god damn mother fucking thing asshole. You're asking for help, you are not entitled to get a reply, be happy you did.
Carson Ortiz
Why would I be happy when your response is basically just telling me that what I want is wrong? You're hilarious.
Robert Wright
>You may want to open a readme file without extracting the entire archive. You may want to only extract certain files. You may want to choose whether to create a new file for the extracted archive.
tar is more than capable of all of this. It's become the de facto standard for a reason.
Brody Price
Then can you recommend me a GUI wrapper for tar?
William Roberts
xterm works pretty well
Eli Myers
Gentoo install process is quite daunting, i hope its worth it.
Bentley Clark
You havent told us anything other then, "i want a compression tool". tar is a compression tool
Christian Diaz
Please read again.
Jeremiah Torres
>CLI options are always a bonus K.
Nathaniel Fisher
So you do want cli options?
Tyler Price
You know what, nevermind. Forget I asked anything.
Jack Stewart
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Hunter Cruz
So does anyone have any actual *interesting* problems to discuss rather than the ocean of "I'm installing linux for the first time how do I use sudo?" questions we've got here?
Benjamin Perry
It is. It's not difficult, just involved.
Michael Turner
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Luke Robinson
You're saying the settings file is the one that it says isn't found? Do the other scripts refer to it by absolute or relative path? It sounds like the script is running in your current working directory, which doesn't contain that settings pm file.
Levi Stewart
How do i make my desktop Cuter Also very new ive been told to install mate whats the point of installing it
Carter Gray
>How do i make my desktop Cuter
Finally a good question.
See if you can make the corners of the windows slightly rounder (I haven't used Unity in years so I wouldn't know how to do this there offhand).
Mate is a whole other desktop environment so the point of installing it would be if you don't like the current one.
Robert Barnes
>running screenfetch as root
Why do you seek to trigger us
Lucas Morgan
>settings Correct >abslolute There is an option for a directory, and then the rest of the scripts refer to it our $basedir = /opt/folder/ our $basedir _folder_1 = $basedir . "folder_1/"
etc
Chase Mitchell
what DE?
Jose Price
What's the verbatim error message?
Also rereading the original question: ) You run one file and it calls the other scripts, but it complains those scripts aren't found, or B) the scripts all refer to one settings file, but running any of them complains that file isn't found?
Luis Stewart
Unity, user. Just a bit riced, but you can still tell it's Unity.
Sebastian Young
oh my bad f/a/m rounded corners ill keep searching. sounds neat DE? does that mean desktop environment if so i think its called unity
James Miller
Just went back to Manjaro but i can't set a shortcut to open the menu (it used be the Meta Key) and the shortcut for openig the Terminal is also not working (Ctrl+Shift+T). In Settings > Shortcuts i wasn't able to finde the xfce-terminal, or anything that would resemble what i'm looking for.
Mason Price
alt-f2 ?
Owen Foster
I've installed gentoo on an old laptop, can someone explain USE flags to me? Do I have to manage them myself or will they update automatically when I emerge something new like x server or the like?
Andrew Robinson
what how is this a thing why don't you go to your keyboard settngs and check what the keybindings are
Gavin Brown
The profiles you chose or didn't choose will dictate which flags are enabled by default. You can and should manage your own according to what you want or don't want in each (main) package. Don't set much globally, set them per package. Portage should tell you if you need to rebuild stuff with new USE flags enabled.
Luis Cox
That is the problem. There isn't any shortcuts for those 2 things i mentioned. I looked everywhere, and then tried to create them, but was unsucessful.
Julian Turner
Thanks, does that mean if I install something later on I need to edit all the package variables? This is going to take a while to wrap my head around.
Michael Hill
Well, you were the one that signed up for Gentoo.
Lincoln Wilson
I reread your post and realized I didn't knwo what I was tlkng about. Sry. I have a headache and Ive been on g too long. :wq
Samuel Davis
No problem.
Ethan Bennett
What was unfriendly about that? It's a medical term and clearly it applies.
Xavier Taylor
Yes, I did and regret nothing. I run mint on my main work pc but I have time to throw around and want to learn more. Probably means a load of stupid questions, but that's half the fun right?
Nicholas King
Actually I believe the term 'retarded' has been removed from the most recent edition of the DSM.
Basically fuck yourself with a rusty chainsaw, friend.
Henry Reed
I can't breath
Hudson Brown
How is QGit for coding C++ on Linux?
Jayden Thomas
Don't worry I was just funposting. That's a good attitude to have. You're alright, mang.
Leo Perez
I'm using GNOME's archive manager, file-roller. It supports these: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive_Manager and does some basic operations via CLI if you want.
Although I gotta say, if you aren't familiar with using CLI, you should. Check out the book TLCL in the OP (it's free). And sorry if some people are dicks, but it is to be expected on the internet.
Mason Martinez
Qt 5 + wayland
Jaxon Parker
Install Wayland! Tear down XORG! Tear down XORG! Tear down X.ORG!
Josiah Mitchell
Sorry for phrasing the question really badly, I was really just asking for impressions on graphical archive managers. I've been using engrampa, which I believe is a fork of file-roller, but it has some minor glitches when opening certain archives - probably due to an outdated or incompatible package on Arch. Peazip doesn't seem to work most of the time and xarchiver seems to unzip some archives really slowly for some reason.
I might actually try file-roller next, although I try my hardest to avoid GNOME applications because I hate the fat window borders on Xfce
Brayden Allen
Is installing Arch worth it? I'm learning to program and learning Linux in depth also. I'm on Debian Stable right now. Is switching to Arch better? What are some advantages?
Owen Lee
You're probably better off just upgrading your Debian to Sid, and you'll be on bleeding edge. Done
Brayden Gomez
That image is absolutely sickening.
Arch is worth it. You should give all the major distros a shot at some point.
Zachary Thomas
Arch doesn't support ppc64, arm, sparc, mips. Arch doesn't have a musl and uclibc releases, so you have no choice on Arch. Install Gentoo uclibc testing + wayland, and you on bleeding edge, if you program on C, learning uclibc is much faster than glibc, also uclibc 2 times smaller and faster. glibc wich used by most of modern distos simply sucks, it's deprecated.
Is there any pressing need? If you ask me, you should stick with whatever feels most comfortable to you. The release model is probably the largest difference, so it might be a better idea to first try Debian Testing or Unstable first. Contrary to what people here might claim, using Arch doesn't make you a better poweruser.
Dunno about Debian, but Arch has great repos and almost every Linux software can be found in AUR. The only program/package that I've looked for but haven't found is a script that turns codeblocks project files into makefiles.
Justin Cox
>I try my hardest to avoid GNOME applications because I hate the fat window borders on Xfce I also really dislike them. Anyone here know how to reduce the height of GNOME 3's window title part?
Jace Howard
Pacman and AUR put Arch so far above the rest of the distros. It's so easy to get any software you need; I don't think I've ever needed to build a package and make install in Arch.