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First for you're all autistic faggots.

HD 600 > HD 800.

Well meme'd.

>he fell for the HD 800 meme

I want better portable audio, MAYBE from a new phone. Using MSR7s.

So..external DAC or HTC 10/Axon 7? How does the quality from those phones compare to up to $100 DACs right now?

chaps, this is just so you know, I solved my problem. it was indeed the driver, but instead of letting windows install it automatically I had to install the driver recommended by the fabricator of the laptop. thanks for everyone who tried to help though.

I'm not here to shitpost, especially about the hd800 because I know nothing about it, but. Pic related.

600 NIGGAS HOLLER AT ME

To the sabre dac guy from the last thread. No mine didnt have an optical out, it was this one.


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yeah, if you don't know how to EQ

Not him but what do you do to the 800 to make it better than the 600?, lower the treble?

Whats the most practical way to add a volume controller to one's setup?
I'm pretty sure i'm just going to get a amp just for the controller

Don't even need an EQ.

raise the subbass, lower the bloated mids, raise the upper mids, sort out the treble spikes

So which one of you faggots is this?

superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/is-there-a-point-in-upgrading-from-the-hd-600-or-can-i-settle-it-as-end-game.2482/

I'll take PEQ over a mod which barely does anything any day thank you.

Can't use PEQ on my vinyl rig.

>vinyl
o im laffin

You could get an analog one but ye, that's a bit more effort than just downloading software.

Then why even bother with HD600 and HD800 then?

Why not buy some $20 headphones with low distortion and EQ the shit outta it.

Seeing that FR is the most important factor in sound quality.

>Why not buy some $20 headphones with low distortion and EQ the shit outta it.
comfort, build quality, quality control (channel matching, consistent FR between units), detachable cables
i don't own either of those headphones btw

It's nice to fully concentrate on the music instead of letting my autism takes over and skips tracks all over the place. The better SQ is just a bonus.

That's bullshit and you know it. EQ's can work great but you can never truly copy a much better headphone. Period.

I own the hd600 and there's been a lot of discussion about them in the last couple of days. A lot of comparisons to the 702's and a lot of EQ talk.

What is the supposed way of improving the hd600 via an eq?. I'd like to know becaus it sounds great to me as it is.

>Period.
shit, can't argue with that

You're a pretty swell guy. I did actually see your response after just getting home but the caution is appreciated.

Your link looks like mine. Also, it does actually list optical out as a feature.

It's in the headphone jack. I didn't know either until plugging it in, the PC listed it as something automatically installed. Icing on the cake honestly. The value makes me feel like a shill for mentioning it.

>he does it for free

Looking for headphones since old ones broke in mysterious circumstances.

>Budget
Up to 200€.
>Location
Finland
>Source
I got the Asus Z97-P mobo so whatever that has, in other words plugging it to my computer. Don't have any external DACs or amps or anything.
>Preferred type of headphone
No earbuds/IEMs. Over-ear or on-ear preferred.
>Open or closed
Doesn't matter that much, open probably for the better soundstage.
>Comfort level
Previous cans were pretty uncomfortable in the beginning but I got used to it. Still, would be nice not to fuck up my ears with long sessions.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral's the way to go for me. Can live with warmth, but I don't want my bass boosted. No drastic changes.
>Past headphones
Shure SRH440.

Now, I've been looking at the Grado SR60e's and also the AKG Q701 since a local shop is selling them at 199€ instead of 499€. Been meaning to go give the AKG's a try in the shop.

>Budget
$60
>Location
USA
>Source
Moto X 1, shitty desktop computer
>Preferred type of headphone
on ear/over ear
>Open or closed
either
>Comfort level
Need to be good enough to wear for at least 4 hours at a time
>Preferred tonal balance
Doesn't really matter to me
>Past headphones
Turtle beach headset

Grados aren't really neutral. If you like them, maybe neutrality matters less than you thought. DT880?

This is true

And hd650 >hd600

If you have to eq, get a different pair of headphones.

Haven't tried the Grados but been hearing good things about them. Then again I've seen a shitload of fanboyism for the company and especially the 60 series.
DT880 Pro goes for about 218€ in a domestic online store. The 250 Ohm seems pretty high though, not sure if my computer would be able to juice them properly.

>it sounds great to me as it is
The expression "if isn't broke, don't fix it" applies well here.

Channel matching is dealt with by EQ.

I don't know about the ZTE, but the HTC is competent at driving headphones directly.

Grados come with treble. Their sound isn't meaty/heavy, it's lighter, more for rock genres than electronic. I hope to own a RS1 variant one day specifically for rock music.

What can you tell us about your experience with the SRH440?

should i get the AKG 701s to be like my waifu Mio or are the 702s significantly better?

I really liked them. They weren't very comfortable at first, pretty painful actually, the headband applied a lot of pressure to the top of my head and it resulted in headaches a lot in the first week or so IIRC. The clamp was OK, and the cups weren't deep enough for my ear, it scratched one part of my ear constantly and I sometimes had a scab on that spot. When it comes to audio quality, I thought they were great. Got them for 89€, pretty much nothing, and while I don't have a lot of experience in headphones, I gotta say they seemed very, very neutral. Fairly sensitive too, could hear a lot of small, minor details. Didn't appear to be emphasized in any way, bass wasn't boomy but it was accurate and had a presence. For under 100€ I'd definitely recommend them for sure, but they aren't very comfy. You can fit the cups from 840 into them, and a lot of people are saying it makes the seal better and in that way improves the audio quality and comfort but never got to try that myself.

ok guize, i know this thread is for headphones but i recently got this usb soundcard from my dad who had a spare. is it any good? currently driving my akg k240 studios with an integrated VIA something something on my p7p55d deluxe motherboard.


TL;DR not my pic but is it good for a pair of akg k240 studio?

No.

HD600 > HD650 > HD598 = HD558 > HD518 > HD800 > HD700

It's good.
They are the same thing, K701 comes with a neat stand, K702 has a detachable cable. Get the K701 for the weeb cred.

K702 has detachable cable, otherwise they are the exact same headphone, pick whichever has bumpless headband for more comfort.

>Channel matching is dealt with by EQ.
sure, if you want to EQ the channels independently.

thank you both

Yeah, not a bad amp/dac.

Looking for a pair of headphones for my normie mom to use at her desk job.

>Budget
Less than $100

>Location
USA

>Source
Phone

>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
The more comfy the better

>Preferred tonal balance
Doesn't matter

>Past headphones
I recently bought her a TASCAM TH02 and replaced the pads with brainwavz replacements. While pretty comfortable the audio jack needs to be constantly fiddled with to get a clear connection. I don't know if they're just cheap, defective, or just her phone case blocking the jack but I'd like to buy her something a bit higher quality since the TH02s didn't work out.

Exactly. Keep on using that eq freindo. You will get your desired sound in the end i'm sure.

Kepp on keeping on. Just keep on tweeking, but tweek some more :)

You should stop being a wiaboo faggot and get headphones with actual weight behind the sound.

Was it a good deal if i got Philips SHE3590 for 3.77$? I needed to buy some temporary earphones, because my SnaB Overtone EP-101M (actually good polish brand) refused to work anymore.

Budget - About 100 dollars, nothing above 150$
Location - Murica
Source - Pluggins will be TRSS computer jack, Ipod nano, and a samsung glaxy s5
Type - Full sized
O/C - Either, what ever helps sound quality but note I will be playing in public a lot
Comfort - SHould be able to wear for extended periods of time without irritating or causing my ears to sweat balls
Tone -I would like something that can do good bass but still have nice sounding highs (I.e. good for EDM and can still play guitar at a good quality)
Past headphones - The best pair of headphones I've owned were the Corsair HS10s, I like their fit and their range and how they handled bass, I currently use basic apple headphones and while they get the job done I know there can be better

Yeah it's pretty good for budget headphones. But keep in mind that if you have an AMD chipset you'll have to download older drivers.

It's probably the best setup for that amount of money but you're still a fucking meme.

>Budget
around $50,000
>Location
Germany
>Source
Mac Pro
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
clouds
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Past headphones
apple earpods

help me /hpg/

Are the VE Monks a meme or what? reddit seems to be all over their dick and they're like 5 bucks a pair.

Looking for some advice. Just got a new job that requires me sitting at a cubicle all day, and I'm looking for something to drown out the sound of the office. Doesn't necessarily need to be noise cancelling though.

>Budget
$100-$250

>Location
Canada

>Source
Computer & phone. Wireless would be convenient.

>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear, if it's on-ear it better be really comfortable.

>Open or closed
Closed.

>Comfort level
11/10, wearing for 6-7 hours a day.

>Preferred tonal balance
Nothing extreme.

>Past headphones
Bunch of budget shit, and some really marked down Skullcandy SK Pros that press into my ear cartilage and hurt like a bitch after a couple of hours.

Pro 80

HD558/598

Not sure if joker.

DTT770.

I second The DT770 really do block out quite a lot.

The difference for me is between someone vacuuming in the room and someone vacuuming next door. YMMV. I have long hair, pads could be replaced with leather if you like, although this WILL change the sound and not necessarily for the better in your opinion. I stuck with stock.

Tfw my SR325i pads are now crumbling ;_;

tell me about stax, /hpg/ funposters

the ZTE has similar specs and is coming out soon, but implementation is up in the air.

I guess my primary concern is..how far can $300 go in getting a DAC/amp instead of $600 to the HTC 10, in terms of SQ?

Sauce on your amp engraving?

That's lower than the usual price on those earphones, and the sound is serviceable, but you only shaved a few dollars off a product that was a few dollars to start with.


I suppose my answer to that question is not very much, aside the headroom and freedom to use your insensitive headphones.

A dedicated amplifier should have more current and voltage available to it. In general, you won't get much more than 1 volt with 32 ohm load out of a smartphone, and most don't do even that. Below the V/I limits, smartphones can be pretty damn good.
A lot of amplifiers screw up in ways that good smartphone audio won't. Higher noise floor and higher output impedance, that sort of thing.

Didn't get to examine the noise floor of HTC 10 carefully.
I can't think of a site that does a rigorous audio test on phones.

The Pro 80s look interesting. Will definitely check them out, thanks.

how different are the hd600s to the hd580? I got some and was thinking about swapping the grilles and new pads.

Think they're just better constructed. I've heard of people just replacing 580 parts with 600 over time.

I believe there were different driver versions for either the 580 or 6x0 and also something to do with insulation foam as well, different colors indicating which.

It's been years so it's foggy but pretty much only bother changing for looks or comfort.

580s are nice, I like that more natural sound compared to the 650s

I just ordered ATH-AD900X. I'm going to use them instead of my AKG K242HD. The AKG were good but too uncomfortable for how much I use them.

Have I done okay?

think it's a bad idea to buy generic pads and/or cables from china? I was thinking these silver pads would look cool on them. I kind of like the design of the original grilles.

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honestly both those headphones are not that good. not bad, but you could have done better IMO.

Like what? For the future.

Just bought some nvx xpt100's. How fucked am I?

$150? you can get a 598 for that, or a k612. used you could even get a dt880, maybe even a k701 or something. all the open ath have a nobass problem, except for the r70x. I would take a 668b over them, unless you really like a mid-y bright headphone.

Generic no-name mass-produced extension cords, probably not.

You'll probably be alright for something specifically made to use proprietary connectors.

Silver-plated copper cables might look nice with those pads also. Think they're about $35 at 1.2m.

Just don't get cables with braiding unless you want to hear everything they rub against like a stethoscope.

The foam probably won't be anything to write home about but my stock Beyer velour pads aren't exactly luxurious either. Should be just fine.

If they give you a headache just fully extend the headphones and put some books between them to loosen them a little.

Head-Fi said that 200 headphone ago as well, because come on, that new headphone has to fix all the issues you had with last headphone we said to buy.

Doors of Durin, entrance into Moria (Lord of the Rings).

>580 and 600
Pads are identical, driver is(was?) the same, cable is the same.

They used to share the same material surrounding the driver, the black silk material controlling leakage, but this was replaced on the 600/650 by a silvery material after 580 production ended. That was about 10 years ago.
The grille and headband are more visibly different.

What I meant to say was while large scale mass-produced no-name stuff from China has something of a bad name, things from individuals or smaller companies can still be quite nice although you may find better value and faster shipping from something more local.

Thanks for filling in what I couldn't, you're a pal

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ebay.com/itm/Silver-Plated-4N-OCC-Cable-For-Sennheiser-HD414-HD420-HD430-HD650-HD600-HD580-/252070060535

I saw this: ebay.com/itm/261805886725

I meant braiding as in braided sleeving. 4am mistake, sorry for any confusion.

Braided wires are fine, I quite like them. Up to you. You probably won't notice any difference in sound. Cables are negligible in that regard.

Was just thinking of your color scheme, since most out there are either black, copper (matches nothing but headphones with wood cups) or in some sort of cloth sleeves with pain in the ass microphonics.

Any cable is fine, pads can be a delicate issue.
Earpads are known to change the sound on the 580/600/650, pad spacing contributes very much to treble quantity.

Mostly open-backed electrostatic headphones, which necessarily require specialized high voltage and high gain amplifiers with a separate bias voltage.
The Stax have less isolation and more leakage than even other open-backed headphones, if that concerns you.
The electrostatic headphones are grouped into Lambda and Omega based on design similarity to the SR-Λ (rectangular earcups) and SR-Ω (circular earcups). The 07 Lambdas are being phased out for the new L series, the current Omegas are the SR-007 mk2 (current version is referred to by users as mk2.5, officially identified by the SZ3 serial) and SR-009.

Stax headphones are known for something called a Stax fart. Unlike typical moving coil headphones, the Stax design is meant to be sealed airtight to the ear for extended bass. The diaphragm crinkles as you push the headphones on your head. It's not the only headphone with that principle of operation (see Audeze), but they're most known for it.
Stax headphones have other sealing issues. On paper, most Stax headphones are capable of very extended bass. They are very sensitive to leakage and fit, and the Lambda models can be more vulnerable to leak than the Omegas. In practice, not everyone gets the low bass that the Stax headphones can put out.

Stax keeps a general sound signature on most of the electrostatics. The notable outlier is the SR-007, much reduced upper-mid and treble compared to the rest of the line. Mk2 also has a port that increases some bass level at the expense of bass extension.
No particular boost until the typical Stax peaking at 1-1.5 kHz, then dropping down, The Lambdas have a local peak around 6 kHz, all Stax models have a stronger peak roughly around 10 kHz. Aside the ~10 kHz peaking, Stax don't have treble emphasis.

So I figure I may as well get a phone then; I have MSR7s right now and those make the best of mid-level setups and I don't plan on buying a new pair of headphones for a while. Thanks for the input, user.

Should I buy the Sennheiser HD8 DJs or the Audio Technica ATH M70Xs?

I meant, "Should I buy the Sennheiser HD 8 DJs or the Audio Technica ATH-M70Xs?".

Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?"

Have a nap and drink some water, user.

x = faggots

USB PYST
Schiit Yggdrasil
XLR PYST
Schiit Ragnarok
Beats Pro

>Yotsuba listens to dubstep.png

stop letting people know of the greatest audio chain offered to mankind

/hpg/, noob here.


I shouldn't compare open with closed right?
So does that mean that I shouldn't take Final Audio VI and weigh them against HD800 or LCD-2?
I know that all of these don't need much amping to run, and it's all just preference.
I know that they all work with this Creative E5 amp/dac that I have.

It's impossible to try all of these. I get a bit tired from trying out the HD800 for some reason (EQ solves that problem).
Is it like that with the other 2 btw? I intend get a decent of cans for indoor listening and maybe some gaymin'.

do you use any audio enhancing software? apparently windows 8.1 does not have a general equalizer.

This E5 dac/amp has equalizer function built in. I think I dialed down maybe -2db at 8k.

(this is the EQ I am using for the M-100. Yes, my taste is pretty blargh)

>Budget
~$300 or less

>Location
USA

>Source
Computer

>Preferred type of headphone
Over the ear

>Open or closed
Always had closed, but open curious

>Comfort level
More comfy the better

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral

>Past headphones
Bass amp skul candies, steelseries gaming headset, gumy earbuds

DT 880 or X2 unless you want to pop your budget up a bit to get the HD650

Not that user. Should I consider getting a used pair of 650 at under 300 instead if my preference is the same?

If they work good, sure. You can get replacement pads for cheap.

Have no direct experience with the Final, but LCD 2 is tiring in the physical sense that I can't bear wearing it for longer than an hour or two due to the weight.

...

K702 + fiio e10k

There is no way to improve the HD600's pitiful soundstage and one-note bass because these properties are inherent to the driver's limitation.

How do I keep my IM70s from completely breaking apart? sorry about garbage image quality

What the fuck did you do?
I've had my IM50 with the stock cable for two years and I throw them into my bag when I'm not using them, yet they're still fine after all this time.

Best headphone for around $2,500 budget?

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