Just figured out how to turn off Secure Boot a year after I dualbooted Mint with Windows 10, meaning I can now access Windows again.
Holy fuck its clunky and slow compared to Linux.
I'd like to keep it and learn more about it, but I'd also prefer to reduce the botnet as much as humanly possible.
Any good debotnetting guides for Windows 10 around?
Levi Rogers
Don't use windows 10
Aiden Brown
/thread
Nathaniel Myers
Upgrade to Windows 7 This
Carson Martinez
its easier to just embrace the botnet. you're only here for 70 odd years. dont waste your time thinking about such things.
Sebastian James
Cancer advice
Nolan Murphy
Destroy Windows Spying Final from Github.com. #YearOfTheFireMonkey #VapeNaysh That's literally it.
Jaxson Anderson
Microsoft has people whose only job is to make the botnet impossible to disable. Those people are information security experts with decades of experience. They are 20 steps ahead Sup Forums neckbeards. The only option is not to use Windows 10.
Ethan Barnes
Run it in a vm. Use spybot antibeacon. Use app-level firewall on a host to manually control internet access.
Michael Stewart
Why would anyone want an OS with a built in keylogger and a always on program that listens to you from the microphone?
Jesus downgrade to 8.1 it even looks better.
Ryan Perry
this
Elijah Cook
why
Adrian Smith
read the terms of use for your win 10, by the time your done you will be balls deep in a Gentoo installation, and will never look at another windows installation the same way again.
Asher Johnson
Pajeet pls
Isaiah Watson
microshit uses the poos for cheap indian code, as in they produce shit in vast numbers within short timeframes to please bureaucracy and then have competent people whos lives are broken and full of melancholy duct tape it up.
i am sure for more important shit they have white wizards working on art and then hand it to perjhet to dump it in
Colton Brown
You're probably right, it's just fun to perpetuate memes.
Jack Bennett
>download software that claims to debotnetify M$ >click a few buttons >debotnet complete! >actually does nothing
>debotnetting close source
William Sanchez
Nice source, oh wait you're lying
Charles Hughes
>tfw no drivers for my computer previous to windows 8.0
feels bad
Christian Smith
If you must use Win10, Spybot Antibeacon seems to work well. Also, 10 does seem to work really smoothly on recent hardware.
>disable everything you can >block the remaining stuff >Wireshark on a separate machine shows no activity when idle Looks like your shitpost was just that.
Try 8.1. Avoid Metro crap in it and install Classic Shell start menu. It's really pretty good. There's even Aero themes out there if you hate the flat look.
Jason Sanders
Tron script and Spybot Anti-Beacon seem great and reliable.
Evan Lopez
delete windows 10 and install gentoo
Matthew Turner
>debotnetting >windows 10
Samuel Carter
spybot anti beacon or Destroy Windows Spying - Windows spying removal tool just google it
Gavin Cook
What does this even mean? This is the first time I've genuinely and unironically assumed somebody was named Pajeet on Sup Forums.
Easton Wright
You can't debotnet Windows 10, it's as simple as that. You have to block everything at hardware level and then go through the excruciating process of creating exceptions for everything you consider safe to access on the interwhoops. You'd have to be desperate to use Windows 10 to actually go to these lengths. All the available debotnet scripts and other software is placebo.
Parker Harris
>All the available debotnet scripts and other software is placebo. Proof or GTFO. Wireshark running on a machine between the debotnetted Win10 machine and the internet says you're wrong.
Jacob Mitchell
How does it say I'm wrong? Because your computer is not connecting to IPs that are registered directly to Microsoft? The situation is exactly as I said: unless you know every outgoing connection, your debotnetting is nothing but placebo.
Jack Williams
its good software but has some weird fire monkey graphic on it I think that's what he means fucking cyak blyat code monkeys
Joshua Russell
It should produce no connections when idle, and only connections I request or can trace to software I ran, right?
Kevin Cook
>upgrade to 8.1
FIFY
Tyler Wilson
anyone have that image where you have to set something to enterprise or basic instead of off to actually get it to turn off?
Isaac Bailey
You can't turn it off
Just don't use it, problem solved.
Linux is better anyway, fuck MS.
Gavin Davis
Nah 8.1 is ass that doesn't turn everything off
Angel Miller
Yeah I wouldn't trust it to turn everything off. I just want the image so I can remember how to get to that window and see for myself.
Thomas Ortiz
>Nah 8.1 is ass 8.1 is actually quite a nice compromise. It has most of the nice things 10 has, but almost none of the botnet. It has a nicer task manager, better memory management, fast bootup times, native ISO mounting, nicer copy dialogs, etc. But the only privacy issue you need to watch for is that it tries to get you to make an MS account at install time. Opt for a local account, then install Classic Shell start menu to avoid most of the Metro nonsense, and you have a nicer, faster 7 with a flat look.
Nicholas Robinson
ahaha got fucking owned by back to Sup Forums you fucking faggot.
Daniel Adams
Has anyone actually found a remotely helpful firewall tool that actually runs on the same machine? I mean installing something- peerblock, firewall, 3rd party tool- then actually testing the output externally?
Josiah Smith
Comodo works well, but why not use a hardware firewall? That along with O&O Shutup and Spybot Anti Beacon takes care of it all.
Ryder Mitchell
See that's not what I'm asking. Everybody throws around some claim or another, and nobody does any research to back it up. O&O is one of many almost identical tools that fiddle with settings to reduce telemetry but not eliminate it. Sure anybody could name a dozen firewalls, but as far as I can tell windows 10 just bypasses all of them as easily as it does a host file. So I'm asking if anyone has actually tested any application or rule set to actually confirm that it really does block internet telemetry completely or even close. And a hardware firewall is completely impractical for most people.
Jaxson Williams
So because you haven't looked hard enough, nobody has done any research? Nobody said the tools alone do that, but a linux-based router with iptables or similar is now "completely impractical"?
This is hillarious when people are advocating using a full-blown linux OS instead. You really should try spending more time researching than ranting.
Evan Morgan
>windows 10 has a botnet, this is outrageous!! >I'll keep using it and just use some meme program that probably will stop working with the next forced update You 10cucks deserve the botnet.
Elijah Garcia
>autists make hardware firewall >block everything >whitelist only trusted apps >gamerfags whitelist Steam >Windows10 simply starts sending information through whitelist connections >Windows10 sends information through Stream connection >Steam servers act as pass through straight to MS HQ >you're put directly on a watch list for trying to circumvent Windows 10 Customer Satisfaction Program >FBI and NSA now scrutinize every packet that goes through your network with an electron microscope
Matthew Robinson
No that's the thing. LOADS of people have said there are tools alone that can do that. People left right and backwards are claiming you can firewall windows from within windows using assorted tools, firewalls, peerblocker etc, and for the life of me I can't find a reliable source of someone who has successfully tested any of it. I would love to find something like that. And yes, if it turned out a software solution did exist, it would be way more practical. It would be much easier for most people to implement and install on multiple PCs, it wouldn't require buying additional hardware, you wouldn't have to carry around some portable router with your windows laptop, and you could probably recommend it to newbs and grandparents who don't know jack shit.
Robert Robinson
Stop using Windows if you care.
Bentley Howard
That's really not an option for most people
Owen Flores
Priorities.
Levi Gutierrez
>Just figured out how to turn off Secure Boot >after a year
what the fuck, are you fucking serious? Get a fucking mac, windows is not for you.
Chase Perry
Technically you're not wrong. If somebody doesn't have the skill to install linux or acquire compatible hardware they can always just not own a computer, or take any job that requires one. That's practical.