480 vs 480 Nitro

I´ve want to buy a new GPU for my PC. currently using intel hd 530. (before that an ATI Radeon HD 4550 and ps3) So I build myself a PC this spring and now I wanted to buy a 480 Nitro, but I would have wait probably anoterh 2-3 weeks and will pay 50€ more than for a reference model.

So my question is: should I wait or not? I am no genius on GPU´s. I will play only on 1080p, I would like to play on High - Ultra. Games I want to play right now "ROTR", anything beyond 40-45fps would be nice, DS3(this isn´t much demanding) and of course FFXV, when it will finally be released.

So help me anons, what are downsides and benefits from the Nitro compared to a reference model!

(Specs: I5 6600, DDR4 16gb, Gigabyte MB)

(well please no gpu war, I don´t want Nvidia because I don´t have positive experiences with it)

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anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/16
wccftech.com/intel-skylake-6700k-6600k-amd-fx-8370/
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forgot to mention: I´ve got also a 500W 80+ Gold PSU

Im in the exact position as you so I'll bump this thread. I recently bought an i5-6600k, and Im coming from a Phenom II 955 + HD6850

Nitro is pretty much better in every way. I have a dvi monitor that I use on the side, and since ref 480 doesnt have a dvi, I dont even want it.

Nitro
-smaller in length due to smaller heatsink
-one dvi
-8 pin power connector as opposed to 6 pin

You shouldn't be opposed to getting a 1060, though, as that one is more power efficient as well as having good and mostly better performance than the 480.

Hell, I will prob order both (when theyre finally stocked, ever) and keep the one I like more.
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Please take this shit to this is not a board for the discussion for gaymes

Other than changing the output and external power connectors, I don't see much of a difference. 6% higher overclock is not even worth evaluating.

If you need the better selection of connectors and would rather have an 8-pin so you don't have to underclock the reference card, then pay the $30 extra for the Nitro+, I guess. I would probably get the 1060 and get the proper connectors and better efficiency but that's apparently not something you're willing to consider.

Is Nitro even out? I want it out so badly, at least to see, if prices will match in my country.

Seriously, in Poland, RX 480 used to cost 1400-1450 PLN (around 312 EUR), thats way too much. If it would have same price as that pre-order from Overlockers (250 GBP), I would be happy.

Is the power connector difference that much important? What are the benefits?

It depends on whether you have a spare 8-pin connection available from your power supply. The 6-pin is more likely statistically so that's why they chose it for the reference card: to cover the most market share.

With the 6-pin reference card, you have a choice of running it in compatibility mode with the PCI-E spec so it doesn't overdraw current or you can roll the dice and keep the reference power draw. If you chose to err on the side of caution, the performance dips so that the Nitro+' performance becomes a better value proposition although the 1060 is better out of the box.

OP, look up AMD vs. Nvidia benchmarks on i5 CPUs or worse.


There is a big difference between i5's and i7's.

The power connector is important, but what matters more is that the reference design 480 has a SHIT cooler. It's so bad that it is insulting to actual garbage if you call it that.

Yes it is in the US.

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I preordered yesterday 2 hours after the news broke.

Protip: Order stuff like this from Germany. Seems almost like the way they got rid of most of the jews during WW2 has lead to a lot less price gouging in computer parts.

Mindfactory.de is generally pretty decent.

Sadly this or I'd have certainly gotten an rx 480 sapphire.

Ah well, 1060 it is, any reviews in regards to it only having one fan?

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pclab.pl/art60000-21.html

Here's a good reference for OP.

>big difference between i5 i7 herp derp
youtube.com/watch?v=EhaB1dqYv_I

>comparing i5's and i7's with a Titan
kek that's absolutely not what I'm referring to you stupid fuck.

Dont click on the thread then faggot. Its not like you're forced to read every thread.

Not being flippant but that's to do with the titan x and not the difference between AMD and Nvidia in regards to an i5 or i7.

anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/16

LOL. now fuck off kid.

That's closer to what I was talking about, but still not quite optimal.

Maybe you'll figure it out after this post.

Whats up with the AMD GPUs? They lose in every single test there.

Okay, so I have eye problems, and anything about, like 720p and 30fps doesn't really effect how I see things. Would the 480 be a good solution for someone who doesn't need to have crazy performance quality, but does want to multitask with, say 4 monitors? Or am I better off getting older cards in crossfire?

I'm not seeing any i5's in those marks.

wccftech.com/intel-skylake-6700k-6600k-amd-fx-8370/

It's possible there might be more of a discrepancy in older i5 vs i7 setups but the i5 6600k and i7 6700k perform about the same in those benchmarks.

Op here, thanks fog the answers!

Can't find anything to it, can someone post it ? I5 6600 and 480

An i7 2600k, which is from over 5 years ago already, is roughly equivalent to an i5 from a couple of years ago.

Mind you, the only real difference between an i7 and an i5 is that the i7 has HT and specially DX11 games never utilize the extra threads.

Now to just wonder about my 4690k if I can't make a confident decision gtx 1060 it is.

6600K and 6700K are the same processor with the only difference being lack of hyperthreading on the i5 and a 300MHz clock deficit. 300MHz isn't that much when you're talking about processors clocked at 4GHz.

What people are referring to is the fact that AMD cards greatly benefit from more powerful CPU's (e.g. the i7).

The RX 480 is just below the 1060 when both are paired with an i7. Most sites compare these cards using an i7.

However, if you compare these cards on an i5 or a weaker CPU, the performance gap increases, with the AMD card falling behind.

Look at this:
pclab.pl/art60000-21.html

Both 6600K and 6700K are overclocked to 4.6ghz in that benchmark. Maybe in directx12 hyperthreading will be better utilized.

Don't listen to that fagtron because he still didn't understand the point being made. The 4690k+RX 480 is worse than the 4690k+1060. Go with the 1060.

If you had an i7 instead of an i5, you might want to go with an RX 480.

If they are overclocked to the same level, you have the same processor effectively. Hyperthreading is useless for gaming, since as far as I know even games that support multiple cores rarely stray above 4. I'm not even sure if DX12 will ever make a difference.

Although Time Spy score scales with CPU cores pretty nicely. Too bad that's just a synthetic benchmark.

but what if Im in a i5-6600k? How much a 480 will be bottlenecked?

They perform the same. The only game where that manifests itself is in doom vulkan.

Stock RX 480 is slightly less powerful than a gtx 1060 as of now, but a 4690K will not bottleneck either card. I'm sure if you get the nitro rx 480, with a nice overclock and some driver updates it will fuck the gtx 1060 in the ass very soon.

Hey op here! I found this one
forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2016/07/19/crunching-the-numbers-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-versus-amd-radeon-rx-480/#26dc7d874166

I don't see big difference. Rotr has a huge gap, but it is nvidia optimized..tested on a i5 6400. Oh and the 1060 has a higher clock etc.

I still don't think you're understanding, which is crazy because it's such a simple concept and I don't know how else to phrase it. If I'm wrong I'll eat out my ass.

Can you tell me what you think I'm saying?

And dx 12 in general is my understanding.

Only concern is less warranty on AMD cards, nothing to match EVGA or Zotac.

That only tests 4 games, 3/4 of which are DX12.

4/4*

on the next page they test shadow of the mordor, gta5 and far cry primal. gta5 has a 20 fps difference, others are either the same or amd is slightly better

To be fair I get the point in doing so and glad he used an i5, as long as more games show that swing towards AMD I'd be happy enough to get a nitro.

But I understand Tomb Raider had a large one towards Nvidia.

>good reference
>doesn't have his CPU
>his CPU is faster than 4690k in games and thus the difference would be smaller

Please don't fall for the FUD regardless of which side it's coming from.

Yes AMD cards have a higher overhead, but you're acting as if OP's gonna lose 10 fps.

Do you research and buy within your budget

I'm ignoring Vulkan disparity as too specific but DX 12 as pretty important.

>pclab.pl/art60000-21.html

the graphics settings being used to do these benchmarks are fucked. Pretty sure most people are going to want to hit that 60fps mark atleast so if you turn off some of the nonsense fucking cpu intensive settings like "extra draw distance" in gta 5 you will see a drastic fps improvement. Same with witcher 3, shadows and foliage draw distance "high". I don't play fallout 4 but I'm sure it's another bullshit cpu intensive setting maxed out that you don't really need. Crysis 3 is a garbage ass game so I don't really care what the performance is.

Tip here for you.
Go to 3dmark.com
Click results, select the advanced tab.
Select firestrike for dx11 1080p or time whatever for DX12
Type in for CPU
>i5-6400
For GPU
>RX 480
Click search
Select the drop down for 1 GPU
Add a top score mid score and bottom end score to compare
Change GPU to 1060 and repeat ensuring you reset Max score to 50,000
Compare the graphics scores only.
That will give you general range of GPU performance in those tests. In firestrike Anything over 5000 is good for 1080p ultra @ or above 30fps
In time whatever anything over 5000 is generally good for 1440p ultra @ or above 30fps

If you go with a 480 I suggest saving the extra dosh for an AIB partner card that is non reference design for 8-pin power and better cooling capacity to allow for more comfiness.

I will just go with the cheaper one, GPUs have more than enough power for my needs so anything is enough