>Be me
>Get through tech interview with Facebook and get an onsite final interview.
>Tell Google I got onsite interview with Facebook
>Google decides to skip the entire interview process and get onsite final interview with them.
>Bonus round:
>CEO of startup I did some work for calls and tells me they got a new valuation and my equity is now worth a cool million.
How's your tech career going, Sup Forums?
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welp, obviously not as good as yours..
Stuck in this IT firm doing unit testing, it's boring.
Happy for you OP. I'm jobless and living at home with my parents.
I'm gonna quit it. It's fucking hell.
Gonna study physics and live off research for the rest of my life.
Congratulations, you just bragged about things that never happened on a website made to discuss taiwanesse cartoons. Your life must be amazing.
Can I work for you?
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I'm trying to get out of running my own business. That's why I'm interviewing.
Good for you, user. Keep in mind that getting an interview is not the same as getting a job, and that most people are turned down.
well, yeah
IDK why I censored 3:30 PDT... lol.
Can you tell me about your average work day and what you have to test? Is it difficult or is it just standard assertEquals, assertTrue, etc. stuff?
Do you consider yourself a code monkey?
What's the most lucrative path in IT nowadays? It seems like code monkeys are a diamond dozen.
literally WHO?
You mean those three names?
Tim Omernick worked for Apple, he left after the Maps debacle.
Matt Galloway and Nick Lockwood are britbongs who wrote a bunch of tech books.
>a dime a dozen
Good programmers and architects are still rare.
There's a huge difference between a "Code Monkey" working at NormieLabs™ somewhere in a flyover state competing with offshore slave labor for contracts, and the real deal at a top tier software company.
>YFW Goldman Sachs pays their devs 250-500k
Facebook averages about 175k, goes up to about 225 after bonuses
Netflix is paying 300k+ these days.
Sounds nice, but I have no interest in being a programmer even though that's what I went to school for.
I'd rather not live in ridiculously expensive cities, either.
>making 15-20k a month
>really nice one bedroom is less than 3k within walking distance of Google HQ in Mountain View.
>worried about "expensive cities"
Enjoy Kansas. You're not going to make that money with a CCNA and an A+ guy.
pretty much yeah, assert here and there, in selenium and java.
Currently trying to get IE to work with our tests, since we've mainly been developing for firefox/chrome.
But other than that. Write some testcases for our web application, mainly testing if input and output is correct and views are right.
Been doing this for couple of months, at first it was exiting and new, but after a while it gets a tad bit tedious.
Also yes. This is a code monkey job.
>3k within walking distance of Google HQ in Mountain View
For a box? No thanks. Add taxes and all the other bullshit that comes with living in this "great" country and that 15-20k doesn't look that great anymore. Very few people can find such lucrative positions as well.
I'll be moving to China next month. Maybe I'll find something good in the future there.
Learn your Data Structures and Algorithms, get really good at complexity analysis (for space too, not just time), and get the fuck out of an "IT firm" and to a real company whose primary business is the software product they make. Where you are is a good place to get incubated, but when your egg hatches, you need to learn to fly.
>complaining about taxes
>moving to China
>3/10 troll posting
>Box
Zillow has a 1500 square foot, 2 Bed, 2 Bath with attached garage right by Stanford campus for 4k
Keep fantasizing though.
Taxes aren't low there but the overall cost of living in their big cities is so much lower than our big cities.
I concede but again, finding a job that pays that well isn't easy. I have a CS degree but I can't just waltz in those companies for an interview.
Who says you can't? If you know your shit, they will give you a shot. Your quality of living will be utter shit in China. You don't want to live in a box? Well you're talking about a 100-200 square foot single room + WC in any city, with air quality like LA in the 1970s.
>Who says you can't?
They don't have the time to accommodate interviews for every bozo with a CS degree. I went to a shitty school and have little experience. Even if I know my shit I still need a pretty resume to get an interview.
Dude, my degree is from a branch campus. Get over your fucking social anxiety with some Paxil or weed or something, do some HackerRank or TopCoder exercises, solve some code katas and put them on your Github. While you're on Github, go to an open source project that interests you, look at the issues list. Fix an issue and submit a pull request. Do that a couple more times.
You're gonna quit what?
You're still going to be doing tech stuff for the physics research.
>cs student
>get interview at small (~10) software company
>interview is just the guy talking about his company
>get 12 eurodollars after taxes for doing python shit
it's okay, the work is pretty interesting at times
Nice OP, I'm stuck in a shitty country with no degree repairing computers ghetto style
>Dude, my degree is from a branch campus
Same. You're OP? I don't have any social anxiety but I just assumed you need years of experience or the connections that come with going to a top university and having internships every summer.
I'm OP dude. I just found my niche and plugged at it hard. Don't believe the "Silicon Valley companies only hire Stanford grads" meme. There are people at these places with degrees from public schools, there are even people there with no degree at all (granted, they're savants).
>I just found my niche and plugged at it hard
Do you mean something that interested you enough to improve or something that separated you from the pack?
Disclaimer: I do have close to 10 years of experience, though.
You asked what the most lucrative path was, and I answered. It's programming. All the managers at these places are programmers too, if they're managing tech people. Just practice, practice, practice and someone will notice if you put yourself out there.
I found something that interested me and kept at it hard. That separated me.
Same, though to a much less extent. I went out of my way to learn mobile applications such while in school, right out of the gate I got a lot of interviews because I was competent with a skill that not everyone has.
Everyone can make some shit in python, but not everyone can do extraneous shit that isn't covered in CS101. Find independent work you like.
>Disclaimer: I do have close to 10 years of experience, though.
Kek
Thanks for making me feel like a piece of shit OP.
t. sys admin at some shit company
>tfw full stack developer
>managing the front-end of 3 responsive sites, one of them a spa
>back-end in node with 5 million incoming calls/day and 50-80 million outgoing calls processing compressed XML data at 200Mb/s (this number at eth0)
>taking care of everything from deployment to operational statistics to communicating with API partners
>lead developer is a disinterested drunkard pos who should be in a junior position
>boss is a bartender who doesn't know what the internet is and doesn't really speak english well
Why do I feel like I'm wasting my life?
Well you aren't going to make top dollar without working for a while, no matter what. You don't just get a quarter-mil job dropped on you because you want one.
Most lucrative is still most lucrative, I did not answer user wrong.
>Fell for sysadmin meme
Get really good at DevOps stuff and Amazon will snatch you up.
Experience is never a waste. MSFT loves Node these days. Make your green text into resume bullets and they will give you a call, if you've really done something at that scale.
What path do you recommend for a beginner programmer OP? What should we study and how?
>functional tester in Czech Republic
>mostly doing keyword testautomation
>recently got ISTQB CTFL certification paid for by employer (is it any good?)
>been doing this for 1 year
>making ok money relatively to my area and experience ($17k a year, please don't laugh)
I guess I'm ok given that I don't even have a degree and could have easily ended up as a Tesco cashier. There is at least some potential progression ahead of me.
17k USD a year? that's ok money in czech?
you couldn't even support yourself with that much where i live. and i'm in an average US city.
I'll take my 100 to 200k in austin
>mfw it's not a 30k spergs talk about consumer trash thread
Pretty Comfy
It' actually like a top 20% income here. The figure is somewhat skewed due to artificial currency devaluation that has been going on for the past 3 years, but adjusted for purchasing power parity its like roughly like a 30k salary in US. Check this, the figures are quite accurate:
numbeo.com
Well, you need to get your fundamentals down. Algorithm complexity for both runtime and space. Don't forget space. You're a beginner, learn the foundation stuff, and learn it well.
Don't worry about "what language," because a good engineer should be able to learn anything. Fundamentals.
>austin
Have fun, but I can only take either hipsters OR rednecks. I don't think I could deal with both at the same time.
twist: OP is actually a nigger and a diversity hire.
>believing Sup Forums memes
looks pretty swarthy to me, jamal.
>2012
>sell your entire bitcoin wallet for $7.2mil
Haven't worked since, all I do is shitpost and eat out everyday.
i work at cambridge university in cancer research as a data scientist doing machine learning and natural languag eprocessing and i have an academic excellence scholarship to do my msc in ML thanx for asking
That's different from
Unfortunately for me, Mediterranean counts as White Guy.
>MFW I don't even own a track suit or a gold chain
sure
You go about working a normal job for a couple years and doing that other stuff.
My point was it takes hard work no matter what, but it can be done no matter what your academic background. You just have to keep at it until someone notices.
ok, thanks man.
Do you forecast any other lucrative positions in the future other than Special Code Monkey?
If you get really, really, really good at DevOps stuff like Docker/Chef/Puppet etc, that's pretty hot.
lol, you're welcome.
Well I'm going on my 4th of joblessness and my food stamps have been cut so my tech career isn't going to good right now.
doing pretty well, start at FB next month
Well, I hope to see you there! I will be on campus for my in-person on the 15th of August, so just say "Hey, user" if you see someone walking around lost or obviously doing the "interview lunch!"
Keep up the fight, user. You can do it!
i'll miss you, i fly in a couple of days after the 15th
campus is like disneyland. and if you're lost, just look for one of the mini maps spray painted on the ground in various spots
you must hate your life.
i do right now ytes
academia is cancer
so is the industry
at least working in the industry gives you a decent living
someone is insecure ;)
Tech industry sounds rough. Thank god for advertising.
how old are you user?
you're joking, right? treated like royalty by the top firms
>18
>No GED
>Junior developer at local App development firm.
>Make 30k
>The job is shit but it pays rent
>Company now getting acquired and we will all lose our jobs.
>Get contacted by another development firm offering a job and 60k.
>Sent over resume and portfolio.
>No response.
Idk man.
Shit was fine for a while but now it's going to fuck. I can't blame my situation on anything else though, didn't even finish highschool.
I'm hoping I'll hear back but I'm pretty doubtful.
You're only 18 you could get your GED any time don't worry about it.
That's not unit testing, that's UI testing which is at least at the component level, more likely system level testing.
If you build your automation framework to have the instantion of the browser specific we driver (ie Chromedriver, IEDriver etc), then you should have zero problem porting across platforms/configurations, which makes true parallelised testing a breeze.
If you implement a BDD framework around your core selenium framework, and then use that to implement a simple English-like DSL, you can leave the actual creation of test cases to the BAs etc, which frees you up to actually innovate and develop better ways to test.
It can stay interesting, you just have to automate the boring stuff, so you can focus on creating.
Test automation can be incredibly rewarding, you just need to keep mixing it up and trying new things.
If it's a code monkey job, you're doing it all wrong.
Not really relevant in the slightest to the kind of work this user is doing. And pretty redundant if you are using and kind of contemporary framework.
CTFL in practice is useless, but it's a standard a lot of places expect so it's very good to have. What are you automating in? Automation can be really interesting in the right role.
that baby must be like 18 by now. is that you?
Nice user, how did you get started?
That's why you consult.
(You)
>junior backend dev
>living with parents, can't afford to rent because barely over minimum wage
>not even that interested in the field anymore but can't really do anything else
>i'm basically saving money to luxury an hero
It just takes a lot of time and effort to convince people you're worth more than your age.
It took me five years of practice and learning to get somewhere.
I started off with Web Development. And I still do but I also do app development (obviously).
Not to be a faggot, but I got my start by getting my name out there as much as possible and talking to as many people as possible.
This thread makes me depressed. I'm 27 and have working crappy non-tech jobs since adulthood after dropping out of uni due to pretty bad anxiety/depression in my early 20s. Things improved and I'm almost done with an associates in CS and hope to transfer but I feel even though I have potential to be a decent coder (and am building a good github profile), I'll be shut out of 80% of jobs since I'll be around 10 years older than other entry-level guys and haven't had the same stable progression of HS -> CS degree + internships -> entry level dev.
Is there any chance at all I could break into tech and eventually make six figures? I feel decent enough where I can learn and use languages pretty quickly. It honestly depresses me and keeps me up at night that I'm not and may never be a silicon valley hot shot. If tech doesn't work out I have the option of going into the local electricians union and making a decent living that way but I don't want to yet.
how long should that all take ideally?
I'm obviously a stuck in the past autist, but am I the only one that expects email from "technical" people to be plain text neatly wrapped at around 72 columns, not HTML with an explosion of colorful shit in the sig?
go for it. if you're as good as you say, even if you're getting started at around 30 rather than 20 i think you still have a good chance at finding something. yes you're right that there are younger early 20s coders that have an advantage but don't let that get you down. skill and expertise trump all.
>tfw 26
>tfw graduated 3 years ago
>tfw only got a shitty webdev job last year at a crappy startup
>tfw it's closing down
>tfw went on a couple interviews 2 months ago and shat the bed
>tfw literally can't articulate myself in person
>tfw last thing i've done in tech is read a js book 2.5 months ago
>tfw at this point just waiting for savings to run out
>tfw think about killing myself just to repeat the meme but not actually want to do it
>tfw feel stuck
Email signatures are usually a company standard. That said a lot of technical guys tend to have zero sense of professionalism when it comes to engaging anyone outside the business. My inner consultant is showing.
>tfw you send yourself some emails so you can lie on the Internet and prove something to strangers in some anonymous site
Your life must suck.
It's going just fine, especially since I don't make up stupid like you do.
I have a huge concern about this. I'm a pretty personable guy and a great intuitive coder (my issues were blocking a lot of my potential) but I feel my age and lack of a traditional progression is going to fuck me over. I wonder if I should just give up and go for being an electrician. At least that can also lead to a decent salary.
>I'm part of the cancer now
>Please congratulate
>mfw cs degree and math minor, but considering studying mcsa/mcse so I can be a sys admin
Am I being retarded? I can code but I find it's always a clusterfuck in the end that only I understand.
Im into computer networks. I have my network+ cert and i like to tinker with network tool scripts.
I have a HS diploma and few but related college classes.
I know python, javascript, a little C. Im trying to learn some debugger language.
I enjoy learning new APIs, automating my daily pc work as much as possible.
How employable am I at the network developer, engineer