Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook). ---- If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance). Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models: T420 - 14", normal size X220 - 12.5", ultraportable ---- Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops) >Used machines are plentiful and cheap. >Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet. >Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels. >Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models. >Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop. >Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain. >The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad. >Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support. ---- Used ThinkPad buyers guide: ktgee.net/tpg
There is no such a thing as T62 you autistic little nigger.
Lucas Morris
Is this the birth of new ebin mene?
Anthony Hall
X220 is 19 better.
Stupid questions get stupid answers.
Josiah Ortiz
>Is this a good deal? It's a decent deal.
Logan Rivera
That's the point. ThinkPads died. Now all we have are """ThinkPads"""
Benjamin Barnes
>he fell for the thinkpad meme
Brayden Parker
But this is not a thinkpad. E series exists from a long time and we don't consider these as thinkpads. Same applies to these autistic toys for kids. X250/X260 is pretty dank.
Isaiah Ortiz
Thoughts on the T460, I like the old dankpad design but don't want to buy used.
Jayden Gutierrez
>4096 millibits of RAM >slightly more than half a byte of RAM
Xavier Stewart
(((ThinkPads)))
Adrian Perry
I'm finally going to college for applied informatics this year. I'll be programming a lot and for hobby making 3D models.
Is the Latitude E5570 suitable? Does anyone know if the 1080p non-touch screen is IPS?
Liam Allen
Is there anywhere good to get a replacement backlight for Thinkpads? I need a CCFL light for an x200s.
Cooper Mitchell
you can have a T62 manufactured by some gook that's likely to have a good amount of hardware issues.
Evan Baker
Autistic splash screen user here Trying to flash 1.86 (L540/L440) support.lenovo.com/no/en/downloads/ds037206 custom splash screen on EFI boot (logo2.gif) (pastebin.com/raw/x6rbsQK1), so far only had success with legacy splash screen, anyone got any fucking idea what I might be doing wrong, 16-bit colours, everyhing as legacy just bigger resolution, still ends up not showing my custom splash screen just when booting in legacy mode. Attached a quick sampel I just made, maybe I palletize them wrong?
Tyler Reed
Looks like I bricked my x200s trying to flash a whitelist bios, is there anything I can do? Would libre/coreboot get it working again?
Asher Baker
Will an x220 run unity just fine?
Brayden Robinson
Yes.
If it's legit bricked, hardware flashing it may be the only way. You'd have to check the libre/coreboot website to see if that model (and screen) are compatible.
Xavier Scott
Hallo /tpg/ Considering T420, e4310 and e6410, are there reasons to pick one over the others? They all look great
Evan Mitchell
It gives error beeps of 3-1-3 or something which the manual says is DIMM error or system board. I swapped around the RAM but still happened so I assume I've bricked the board then. But you think hardware flashing would fix that? Cheers, I'll have a look. I fucking hope it's compatible
Christian Rogers
My richfag uncle used to buy Thinkpads until Lenovo bought the line. Then he switched to Sony. Not sure if he had firsthand experience that made him hate Lenovo Thinkpads, or if he was just biased. He says:
>You never get more than what you pay for. He can afford it, so he just buys expensive computer hardware. He gave our family two hand-me-down IBM thinkpads.
The Thinkpad T41 served me well as a porn machine. It finally died last year.
I run Lubuntu on my XP-era Thinkpads. It just works. Arch would probably work if you know how to use it.
Lubuntu works great. XP would probably appear outdated and shitty, plus it is no longer supported by MS.
Jack Sanders
Couple questions regarding thinkpads
found a T430 for $200 Should I buy it?
Is it true you're able to upgrade the hardware? Does this mean I can treat it like a desktop and upgrade the graphics card and whatnot for games n such?
Jonathan Evans
Hey, faggots. Just wanted to share the news that some faggot on >reddit arranged a deal with a salesman in China to have X62's exported to the US for actual reasonable prices
Any europoors here? Most business grade used laptops are from the US (taxes), did you just go for it or waited for european auctions?
Tyler Morales
>Item Condition: Scratch and Dent System - This item passed testing for key and essential functions. Will have minor wear, you may find dent of ½” diameter or less, small areas of discoloration from removed tags and stickers, and light scratches that are no more than 3” long.
I wouldn't risk it without seeing actual pictures of it
Jaxson Williams
Do they not use business laptops in Europe? No clue why there wouldn't be auctions, maybe Euros donate old laptops to charity?
Zachary Ross
Holy fuck! Nice! I'm signing up right now!
Luke Perez
16:10 and first gen i5/i7 vs 16:9 garbage 1366x768 and sandy bridge i5/i7 (no quads)
Levi Lewis
I assume they're used, but I never see much of it on ebay
Aaron Cooper
Cool, but I think I'll wait for the upcoming T60 upgrade
Ayden Miller
Is 16:10 even worth if it has an older processor?
Elijah Hughes
depends on what you use it for
Sebastian Rodriguez
Is there a business desktop general? Do the same rules and logic apply?
I have a poorfag friend who wants a good PC for rendering 3D animation. Dell Optiplex with i7 looks cheap as fuck. Could even through in a GPU if you wanted.
Hunter James
T430 is on Woot today for $180, should I get?
Eli Turner
Word processing, coding, watching video. Very light gaming at most.
Carson Williams
Dunno about the T430 but on my T420 i've upgraded almost everything, also having three drives is sugoi.
Carter Jackson
Pretty much no laptop has an upgradeable GPU.
You can replace the RAM, drives, the screen, and the CPU. But the CPU is going to be third gen Intel only so not much you can get will be a very big upgrade.
But, T430's hardware is still pretty competitive these days due to CPU improvement stagnation
Zachary Sanchez
Light gaming meaning what games? If it's shit like Doom then even an old T60 will run that fine
Justin Martinez
You can't upgrade the GPU inside the laptop, but you can plug in an external graphics card through the ExpressCard slot using a PCIe->ExpressCard adapter
Kevin Hill
waiting to see if there's going to be a qc nightmare on the boards before getting one
Juan Diaz
Where do you guys usually shop around for your Chinkpads? Do you email local organisations who might have some lying around? Do you visit charity shops or shitty corner IT shops?
Matthew Martin
If I were to have two monitors connected to a X220 and use it mostly like a desktop, would it be a good buy? Or should I aim for T420 in that case?
Isaac Johnson
Yeah it's fine.
For a desktop replacement though I'd pick the T420 because the cpu is upgradeable and the 3 drives as said.
Cameron Morgan
Fuggggg it's literally impossible to find a 00hm457 panel.
Ethan Morales
postin again my brightness controls (fn+home and fn+end) as well as the sleep button (fn+f4) have stopped working correctly on my t420 with arch and openbox. the brightness can still go up and down, but the lowest settings just turn off the backlight completely instead of getting dimmer. i can still bring it back up from there though the sleep button does nothing. i have no idea what i've done to cause this, as they were all working fine one day and not the next. acpi_listen sees all of them just fine if i log in as root (who has nothing installed) they all work perfectly, i suspect because of thinkpad-acpi included in the kernel. any suggestions?? i tried adding acpi_osi="!Windows 2012" as well as acpi_backlight=vendor and acpi_osi=Linux to my boot parameters, but none of them fixed it
Jace Wood
Is E560 a decent choice for an unused Cuckono budget ThinkPad?
Daniel Ross
I don't know a ton about workstations or how poorfag of a budget we're talking, but you might look at the Lenovo ThinkStation D20 or S20.
I've been eyeballing a D30 for a Plex (and other things) server if/when my current desktop-turned-server poops out or gets overwhelmed.
Joshua Barnes
Principally eBay, but I've seen plenty of other folks around land deals with local shops/businesses/Craigslist/swappa. It just depends on the availability in your particular market.
Nicholas Flores
Being situated in Oxford, coming across ThinkPads in the wild isn't the easiest thing to do.
Adam Nelson
Not picking on you specifically, but without flags it's impossible to give good advice to questions like that. I know this is a very international site, but really you should set that out in your original question if you want your fellow countrymen to give you the scoop.
Being an American, and with most of the buying guides/pricing being for an American audience, it just perpetuates a lot of confusion/bad advice from other anons. I'm completely unfamiliar with the European market other than I hear a lot of people buy from German sites for some reason (and swap keyboards), as they seem to be more common there.
Daniel Roberts
In the UK it's pretty much relegated to eBay/hardware trades on Reddit I think.
Reddit is shit, but the hardware trades subreddit (which also does sales, not just trades) is exceptional.
I'm a frequent goer of Charity and junk shops, I have never seen a thinkpad in there. Copped a few cheap PC's and laptops but never a thinkpad in almost ten years of going.
Gabriel Ward
Oh you misread me, I wasn't trying to correct you saying "Well that's not so EASY for some of us", I was just saying that it's difficult to find good shit in the UK.
Julian Harris
my chromebook piece of shit just died on me. thinking of getting a chinkpad as i'm poor.
How's a t420 from newegg sound? i'd be using it with an external display. How hard is it to add a stick of RAM?
Brody Wright
No worries. I was just saying it would help a lot if international folks would announce themselves as such right from the get-go to cut down on unhelpful cross-chatter from my fellow Americans whose buying options/pricing is vastly different.
I definitely hear you that options are limited in the UK/EU/BR/AUS/etc. I wish you luck. Regardless, you're going to pay a premium even for older hardware in the world at large.
>How hard is it to add a stick of RAM? It's very easy. Just one screw needs to be removed. Just make sure you buy the right type of RAM (DDR3, 204pin, 1333).
Anthony Mitchell
Got my first Thinkpad 3 weeks ago from a craigslist for $110 and some gas. I'm loving the fingerprint scanner, trackpoint, ThinkLight, the indicator LEDs, the placement of the power and USB ports on the back, and how cool the chassis feels when its running. I heard complaints about the WXGA T420 screen, but it is actually very tolerable. Not a pain at all from how I use it.
I'm waiting on a mSATA SSD sale to upgrade it. Maybe a 1TB HDD upgrade too. I'm feeling a little cramped with the 320GB that came with it. One thing I don't like is the chassis shifting and making a "click" sound when pressure is placed on the lower left corner of the palm rest.
Luke Lewis
Anyone know where I can get the pinout of the dc-in board of a t420s? Some status indicators aren't working and I want to check the connector.
Jose Garcia
Upgraded my i5 2520m T420 to a quad core i7 2720qm. Top is idle and bottom is after stress test.
>tfw i get better temps than what i got with my 2520m re-pasted
Gavin James
>reminder not to buy non-genuine chargers
Bentley Hernandez
How much worse is your battery life tho?
Parker Morris
God damn it I didnt mean to reply like that, fuckin missed the post button
Kayden Evans
Welcome to Arch Linux
Charles Morgan
Theyre already fine, the issues were resolved in beta revisions, this is the final revision
Kayden Peterson
Dunno, i changed cpu like 30 min ago.
Gonna undock it now and see how it goes.
Hudson James
for the lowest brightness setting possible, you should be able to run xbacklight -dec 4 whiile at the lowest setting you can currently get.
Jaxson Ramirez
Personally I scan the national auction site and google the model I want with local language filter. I usually go for refurbished ones from a local shop though since I can deduct the VAT from those in business taxation. It's bit pricier than US price guide recommends but I want my local snowflake keyboard layout.
Desktops are a completely different from laptops since they are modular by definition. You just have a tower and search for the best/cheapest 2+ years old components you can plug in your current motherboard.
Maybe cheap business-grade towers are a thing if you're looking wholly new desktop but that isn't usually the case.
To me it's hard to believe that non-genuine ThinkPad chargers are even a thing. The refurbished market seems to be flooded with genuine chargers at around 10€ (65W, large round connector).
Isaac Hughes
About the charger, yeah I don't get it either. I'm glad it didn't damage anything and that the first thing I did when I got the laptop was order a genuine. Still, pretty stupid of me to use this one.
Oliver Hall
any sort of xbacklight command gives the error "No outputs have backlight property"
Adam Walker
Sup /tpg/, I'm thinking about Lenovo thinkpad 700-15 for work and games, wanna run games well for a few years, but after a while I don't mind lowering my settings. Lags are unacceptable.
Should I get the Lenovo 700? Y700? Another option within their price range?
Ian Murphy
>Lenovo IdeaPad 700 15" That's not a ThinkPad. Not even marketed as ThinkPad and clearly a consumer oriented device with a gayming marketing angle. You should go ask advice somewhere else.
Liam Miller
Currently using a T61 with 2 GB of RAM, running Xubuntu XFCE. It's lagging and I've just had the thing for a long time. Also using a 160 GB SSD, too.
Buy 4 GB of RAM or just wait, save and get the x220?
Carson Rivera
Are the things you're doing being bottlenecked by RAM?
If not, don't buy more RAM, but I could see 2GB being too little these days for a lot of even normie tasks.
Aiden Bell
get a cheap used ram stick until then
Carter White
If you're actively using it for daily computing you should just upgrade to X220 for more power and convenience.
If you like to hobby laptop on it you should max out the ram with 2x4GB.
If you're super poor check if the lagging is caused by swapping and if so buy just enough to keep you floating. I'd guess 2GB sticks are super cheap as they are usually discarded after the 2x4GB upgrade for that generation. apt install zram-confing should help too.
Its time to buy a new battery for my x220. Should i buy a legit lenovo one which seems to be quite expensive or some third party battery that is cheaper?
Always go genuine unless you're like me and can't because of import fees.
Brandon Williams
Finally got the ram for my G40. I can now run Firefox (I was on 256MB before.)
I cant scroll with the trackpoint for some reason, the scrolling cursor pops up, but nothing else happens. I guess its just XP being XP or something.
Sebastian Anderson
I'm having trouble installing windows 10 on my w520. It just gets stuck at getting ready without any hard drive access. any ideas?
Jace Sanchez
If you want max battery life and a long lasting healthy battery, lenovo brand. If you want to spend 20 bucks and have it for a year, off-brand.
Anthony Miller
It's genuine.
No chink charger has gone to that length to replicate the sticker even anywhere near closely.
Jace Edwards
Main differences between T430 and T420? I'm looking into buying the 430 but says theres 3 drives? What are drives in this case? Is it that important? I don't know much. I assume 430 is better because m-muh higher number. I looked at the specs and 430 is slightly better but what are these drives?
Lincoln Campbell
Doesn't seem like that much trouble to copy paste something, but if you say so.
Joshua Torres
Is 90e too jew price for a genuine 9cell battery? Sure they are cheaper in ebay but i'd have to pay some fees aswell in my country.
Ryan Jenkins
the only difference between *20 and the *30 is the keyboard layout, usb 3.0, ivy bridge cpu instead of sandy bridge, and if you get a dgpu it's supposedly a lot nicer (igpu is far nicer too)
