Maxwell is legacy now

I can't

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Nvidiafags cucked already? Holy shit, that was fast.

D-DELETE THIS

Jesus, what DIDN'T they move to legacy?

may i ask what your problem there is?
it´s not like they stop making drivers

Not to sound too "tin-foil", but there has to be a reason, otherwise they wouldn't move it at all. This just gives them something to fall back on when they finally do fuck everyone over. "But it's been a legacy card for over a year!!!! You can't expect us to still support that!!"

but what do you mean with support?
they haven´t stopped the driver support for probably up to the 4xx
so i doubt they´ll suddenly stop it for 9xx

That's fair. It's just an odd thing to do, and I always expect the worst from companies like Nvidia. Maybe it means absolutely nothing though.

They will probably fuck up the legacy drives more and more so people get pushed into buying newer cards. That's moneymaking 101 peeps.

of course it will still work, and bugs will still be fixed, they're not THAT stupid

but performance updates for newer games wont be first priority at best; minimal/non existent at worst

how is that new? wasn´t it always like that? isn´t that why everyone seems to cry gimping?

titan X just came out, let that sink in for a while

wtf? are you fucks poor?

upgrade already you dimb fucks

it´s not reasonable to assume that performance updates will stop for it especially seeing how they have no alternative for the titan x so far

That's why people buy a PS4 or whatever. Because of this shit.

how do you get that retarded idea?
normies don´t even know this shit

What the fuck, of course they do. Why do you think the logic, "don't buy new computer parts, they'll be obsolete next year!" is so fucking prevalent? It may be hyperbolic, but this shit is the reason computer hardware is viewed that way.

Maxwell is fucking two and a half years old now, what do you expect? Just because it was the only architecture Nvidia had for a while doesn't make it any less ancient in absolute terms, as far as tech is concerned. 30 months is an eternity for computer electronics, even with the death of Moore's law.

I own a gtx770 card and when I hear this the first thing I expect are drivers that gimp performance.

I know there is a lot of hot debate on this but I also get far fewer fps on the same games I played when I bought the card.

Yeah yeah I know my card will be called shit or that it was always shit but every time I see new GeForce experience drivers I know I'm about to lose a fps or two..

why are you updating then?

i had a 660ti till i jumped the shark with the 970
and there was literally no loss in fps in any of my games after any updates

>nvidiots have to fear updating
>their drivers in fear of getting gimped
top kek

it´s more
>people lie on the internet
>by saying they do something they know will be detrimental over and over again

Good question. I didn't notice the performance hit until it finally got several of the games I play down below 60fps. I'm shopping around for a new card now so between that and trying to figure out and find the driver version that will roll me back enough and not cause problems I've decided to not worry about it. I'm the first to admit that Nvidia has kinda been running a one man race compared to the AMD offering but my dissatisfaction with what I've experienced from the driver updates has me shopping for a good price on a Sapphire Nitro rx480. Will prob be another 3 months before the price comes down a little and they are more often in stock.

Not saying that the new card will be the answer to my prayers or anything. For all I know I might be in driver hell again but from what I've gathered AMD seems to do ok later in the card life on drivers. I don't upgrade super often so this time around I'll try AMD.

Maxwell shaders = Pascal shaders, only on a smaller die.

I can hardly imagine that they can optimise for Pascal without optimising for Maxwell

They will start releasing drivers that ruin the performance just like Keplar

they do better in the later life of the card because they have to fix their nonfunctioning drivers after release which of course makes it look pretty nice if you compare eol to release

oh keplar you mean that which was not "ruined"?

To be fair to Nvidia maybe it was the games getting more taxing I dunno. But for sure they kept getting slower and slower. I keep my computer squeaky clean as well and my 4770k and 18gb of ram rarely get challenged outside of video processing.

I have to give AMD respect for the XFX6870 black edition that I had previously to the gtx770. That thing kept up and performed great for a VERY long time.

That never happened, do you honestly believe that meme?

Oh also another shady thing I noticed was the "recommended" settings for games that Nvidia says it has specific driver profiles for would recommend me lower graphic settings after driver updates. Even when the game never changed or had any updates. I had that happen in Payday 2 and Final Fantasy XIV.

As soon as it changed I was like going through all my installed programs and checking dates and also checking all the current processes running. Couldn't find anything. Still had like 10% processor utilization and 25% of ram.

Not trying to wear a tim foil hat or anything but it just all feels off enough for me to swap companies for a purchase. 2 or 3 years from now I very well might be back to Nvidia though.

The clock is ticking, NVIDIA® friends. The 900 series has expired and for every day you delay upgrading to the 1000 series we will take away 10MB of VRAM. That gives 970 users 350 days before they can no longer play it the way it's meant to be played™.

Do not delay. Purchase yours today!

geforce.com/hardware/10series

>nvidia
lol

Kek

NVIDIA Deep Learning

Games are engines that resolve bankable solutions

Gamers are drones

Folding at home

tinfoil hats

780ti owner here

NEVER AGAIN NVIDIA

RIP Nvidicucks.
>it was part of their plan

We decided to go all-in on A.I.

topkek

>in 5 years AMD will have caught up to the current state of nVidias """""legacy""""" drivers

>Implying pajeet wouldn't sell ati to intel
Intel has yearly R&D budget twice the whole worth of amd.

>it´s not like they stop making drivers
Except they absolutely do in any meaningful sense. Are Nvidiots so delusional that they still think Nvidia are hard at work optimising games for the fucking 400 series? What you get is the old driver with a version number bump bundled endlessly with the real driver for the current series only. If you own anything other than Pascal, updating at all from this point onwards is a literal placebo.

People who say "they still release drivers for the [x]" please read the driver release they include next time you download a driver.

Nearly every single driver release something gets broken in a legacy GPU. Usually it's limited to an effect in one or two games, but other times it's something more drastic like SLI or multi-monitor.

That's the point of why this is a serious move: while yes they will release drivers, the drivers will include performance only for Pascal, Maxwell and below may have the off-chance that it will receive trickle-down improvements, but it's no longer a priority.

It also increases the very real risk that when a driver breaks something, a fix will go on NVIDIA's backlog and may never actually be looked at. This risk increases significantly for each generation down you go.

it would be great if they did. intel's 14nm process is years ahead of both samsung and tsmc's.

you're a moron

>I don't understand these things but I'll say them anyway

Intel has an advantage in area scaling, and they've payed for it in miserable yields for years. They're going to be sticking with their 14nm node for high TDP desktop chips until 2018 with Coffee Lake.
You can't say definitively one way or another who has better electrostatic characteristics per transistor on average because we have no examples of the same IC implemented on each process.

>download driver and save it
>if the new driver gimps your card just revert to old one

It's not that hard.

I thought I was the only one who did this. Think I still have the day one drivers I used when I got gtx 670 SLI.

I'm currently on a 980ti classified and haven't updated my driver in months. As long as all the games I play do so with no issues, why Update at all?

They're not identical. They don't register as the same chip. All Nvidia has to do is "if (maxwell): gimp;" which is probably what's going to happen.

Well it's a good thing I'm not poor and have my Pascal 1080 already.

I heard nvidia users are rich. So this news wouldn't really affect them.

Also all old gpus magically disappear and everyone just buys the new version. At least that's how it is Huang's mind.

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>>Company releases newest generation of product, making last generation, by definition, "legacy"
>>reactionary babies lose their shit, just for the hell of it
>>???????

>270x
what the actual fuck?

I think AMD's 7000 series was moved to legacy for no more updates after 1 year.

The reason is 900 series is no longer in production.

Jesus Christ this board keeps getting more autistic the longer I stay here

Well shit, I better unload my old shitty 980 quick.

7700-7900 are still supported, 7000-7600 are legacy.

That was fast.

They've already changed the colors.

neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1220928

That's workstation cards.

>all these false flagging AMDumbs ITT
Keep trying, AMD is still too poor to hire you as a paid shill.

NVIDIOTS BTFO

dumb makiposter

Well I just bought a 970 for $200, knowing Nvidia will give me another $30 for it eventually. Just installed it today. Should I return it and get a 470/480? If Nvidia is really disregarding Maxwell this early, I'm done with these fucks forever.

Doesn't matter. We have blue radeons now.

>my 1070 will be legacy by this time next year, or even sooner

t-thanks...

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He's not wrong though

>Keppler has been out for more than 4 years
>Just recently became legacy
>Maxwell has not even been out for 2 years
>Legacy hardware.

THE WAY IT IS MEANT TO BE PLAYED(TM)(TM)(R)

>Nvidia advances their technology really fast
>AMDrones cry out "g-gimping!..."

I don't think anyone is complaining about Nvidia releasing better products quickly. The complaint is that newer drivers are causing some card to get worse performance than in the past on the same games and same benchmarks. I experienced it on a 770.

Though there are lots of other factors so maybe Nvidia isn't to blame. However I didn't have the problem on a 6870 and benchmark data seems to back up the claim of AMD cards either improving or not degrading in performance. I don't own stock in either company or have a tattoo of either logo on my body...

does this mean they won't deliver updates to them anymore?

got a 670 and can't run ark at 720 at playable framerates. idk bruh.

FUCK OFF MAKI IS A FILTHY WHORE

YOUR POINT IS INVALID

dumb frogposter

Nice false flagging. A 770 is just as fast as a 960, a 670 trails behind the 770 by only a small percentage.

When will I ever see x80 TITAN, or is it now called Titan X Black

At 3000$ MSRP top kek

The current Titan isn't GTX 'cause it's gimped from 3840 cores, at least full GM200 has proper 12gigs

Anyway Pascal chip is not stable enough in 4k rendering or just overkill. not to mention latency kek

pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/GTX-1070-and-GTX-1080-Premiere-Pro-Performance-810/#RecommendedSystemsforPremierePro

He is right you retard, I own a 560 Ti that is still "supported" and all driver updates are placebo, Fermi has a fucking hardware scheduler and yet no DX12 or Vulkan support, even when Nvidia said they would add support a while ago.

So I should just keep a driver from before august, right?

Why?
All their cards back to fermi are seeing dx11 optimisations and kepler for dx12 optimisations.

You'll lose performance in newer titles, and if you're not gaming why are you updating geforce drivers?

no they are just retarded

get a graph i can read euroshit

you don't belong on Sup Forums

>still perpetuating this delusion that was made up a butthurt shill that because he didn't get free shit from amd

>Kepler
>dx12 optimisations.
>dx12
>optimisations.
HAHAHAHAHHAHA NICE JOKE

>get a graph I can read
Autism.

Gtx 770 is as fast as a 960 in most titles that came out this year.
Problem?

Smells cheesy

>die srutsaffle ya kelmpenwerffer
yea get a graph in english yurocuck nvidiot

>older project is legacy after newer product is released
HOLY SHIT WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED

Titan x isn't a game oriented card you fuck

So if you leave, it won't be as autistic?

>graph clearly says title in English
>all English framerates
>graphics cards labeled in English
>graphics API labeled in English
>color coded red for AMD, green for Nvidia, in case of retards
>user too retarded to read it

It seems that Nvidia and AMD have different definitions of "legacy." AMD defines "legacy" as when they stop providing driver support. By this definition, Nvidia's hardware takes six years (going by the last "legacy" hardware) for driver support to end.

Nvidia's legacy means they aren't going to rebrand it and sell it as new to you again.

Legacy means stopped production. EOL means no more driver support. Maxwell is still not EOL

What does it feel like to be AniMateD?

What? It just fucking came out.

The cards they produce? Kinda says it in the name.

And?

Nvidia doesn't even do anything with their drivers anymore. Sometimes they optimize game shaders or put in some random workarounds to bugs, but ever since like 2012 when nvidia got a huge performance upgrade due to multithreafing drivers, performance from driver updates has been stagnant.

It's not like Amd which really just gets free performance from Intel releasing new overpriced processors, cuz they can't be fucked doing multi thread.