Help me decide Sup Forums. I am about to pull a trigger on a gpu

Help me decide Sup Forums. I am about to pull a trigger on a gpu.

>Gigabyte GTX 1060 available at local shop for 320€
>Sapphire RX 470 from german site for 269€ + shipping
>Wait for MSI 480 to be in stock and buy it for 319€ + shipping

I am hugely leaning toward the first option (will get it in like 1-2 days, performance and temperatures of 1060 are awesome, gigabyte as also good) but my main concern is the 480 being stronger in DX12/Vulkan games. Would the difference in the future be big enough that you would notice it on 1080p 60hz screen, you think?

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1060 vs 480 thread again? OK

By the time dx12 becomes relevant the 480 will be depreciated to shit and useless, just buy the 1060, future proofing is retarded and the 1060 is the much better card atm

Get the Rx 470, it's not much worse than the 480, better than the 1060 in Vulcan/dx12 and it's cheaper

nah, at 1080p 60hz even if there were vulkan gains you wouldn't use them. Get a 1060 and live 2-3 years completely problem free after that the support gets dropped I believe

again two different opinions...

IDK it feels like 470 is very entry level option and that i could do better. I can spend up to 350€. Of course saving money always is better.

one more reply for 1060. Leaning heavily towards it now

just do it AMD fucks up too much idk why I even support them

you have your own general pls stay there

he doesn't want a pc you autist he needs a single component fuck off

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>buying Gigacuck
Enjoy your wind tunnel acoustics senpai.

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Not an amdrone (currently) but can you confirm that is DX12?

don't buy the 480 unless you have a 12 core intel processor

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Why are you posting these. Tomb raider and forza benchmarks are irrelevant. Doom difference also irrelevant on 1080p 60hz screen.

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get Gainward GTX1060 for 276€

alza.de/gainward-geforce-gtx-1060-d4369323.htm?o=10

hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/94969-sapphire-radeon-rx-480-nitro-4gb-8gb-oc/?page=10

>hitman
lol

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That is not true but the 1060 is better than the 480 as I said before

maybe with a €1000 CPU

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>Would the difference in the future be big enough that you would notice it on 1080p 60hz screen, you think?
No. Nvidia might be a bit late to the DX12 game but it'll dominate DX12 just as well as it did DX11,10, etc. They just have too many resources and a strong history of working with devs.

thanks
here, cheers mate!

>using AA
>ever

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no one is even defending amd? why must you start brand wars you flaming faggot holy shit

in dx12 nvidia and amd have equal driver overhead which is very low. and before anyone brings up pic related i'm just going to do a tldr.

>tldr
all you need is a 2500k or higher. technically a 3ghz nehalem. haswell or above is absolute sweetness. you do not need the latest and greatest i7.

>tldr #2
all pic shows is the processor bottlenecking the 480. this is NOT a driver overhead issue as explained above. with async enabled, the 480 processes a lot of data and the potato processor x4 955 from 2009 with core 2 quad level of performance cannot keep up with the 480's async.

>tldr #3
nvidia does not have async enabled in doom - vulkan. all it benefits from is less driver overhead compared to opengl. this is why the increase from opengl to vulkan with both the 955 and 750 is the same 12fps. if you looked, with the 955 the increase on the 480 too is 10fps. similar to the 1060. with the 750 the 480 jumps to a 18fps increase, higher than the 1060's, because it enters a level of cpu performance that's able to start keeping up with the 480's async performance.

>tldr #4
i don't understand why they went from a 09/10 processor all the way up to essentially 2015/16 processor. little more than half a decade of improvements. but honestly, by seeing the leap from the awful 955 (core 2 quad level) to 750 (2.6ghz first gen nehalem), a 2500k should be more than enough. and if its the k, there is zero reason why it should not be overclocked to a minimum of 4.2ghz with a 212 evo slapped to it.

>tldr #5
all you need is a 2500k or higher. technically a 3ghz nehalem. haswell or above is absolute sweetness. you do not need the latest and greatest i7.

>tldr #6
don't complain if you have a haswell i5 or higher

>tldr #7
you don't need the latest and greatest i7.

I was kind of curious why there wasn't more noise about the 470 being launched. I guess the disappointment surrounding the 480 and now the Nitro took all the bluster out of them.

I went with msi gaming x 1060 for 340 jewro after learning that rx 480 partner cards wont be reaching my country till early-mid september.
AMD failed hard with this launch and for me waiting 2 months for the card i want is just not worth it, even if there is a chance that card will be better in the future.

Not that, the 470 is literally 2 fps away from the 480 for 20 usd less which is fucking amd over and confusing customers

OP here. Same position here. Earliest the 480 will be in stock is probably in September. Fuck it. Ill go with 1060. Wil go to gym now, give it a thought and pull the trigger on 1060 once i am back

At least Nvidia is upfront with screwing over early adopters with the Founder's Edition.

not really they praise it and hype it but when it hit reviewers it was found to be an overhyped overheating piece of shit. Like most amd cards coincidentally

I am confused. Are you talking about AMD cards in response to a post about Nvidia cards?

You said that nvidia was upfront about cucking, they werent they became amd for a second. That's what I meant, Founders edition was meant to be the best at a premium price but was shit and overheated worse than reference cards

Stop stressing over it and just get one. An extra 5fps either way isn't going to change your life and they're budget cards anyway so you aren't gonna be sitting on it forever.

>Founders edition was meant to be the best at a premium price
>the best
Was it? I don't believe Nvidia ever fooled themselves or anyone else that the reference cards were going to be better than AIBs. Got a citation for that?

Is 320€ a ridiculous price for gigabyte 1060 in Europe?

not really, I like bullshitting people so they leave , I don't want to argue with you anymore user. I want AMD to win badly but nVidia never lets their guard down and when they do AMD blows it. Please just end this debate here

>not really
It must suck to run into people who actually have half a brain and know a bit about what they talk about, huh?

I mostly don't see these on the opposite side. Good to see we still have people that can whoop an ass or two. Im un-watching the thread now user, it's been great

Just be aware, not everyone who doesn't agree with you is on "the other side."

I know, it's all in my head who's an "enemy" or not. I just can't see clearly nowadays who is an enemy and who isn't user, everyone is getting awfully hostile just for having a different opinion.

>all those tldrs
tl;dr

You're retarded, every single big release this year is a dx12 game.

Examples?

Whats the part here that needs replacing the most?

Deus Ex
Battlefield 1
Civilization
Forza Horizon 3
Gears of War 4
Watch Dogs 2

1060 is by far the best choice

I think GPU, CPU can come later

FYI the 1060 is faster than anything by AMD in DX12.

Check Time Spy, 3DMark's new DX12 Benchmark.

The 1060 easily beats the 480 in DX12.

And by how many % you think 480 would outperform 1060 on these games ?

Most importantly would that difference be noticeable on 1080p 60hz screen?

why do you care about temperatures

nigger op, you need to get a 1060 and shut the fuck up already jesus christ. the gains are usually 30 fps more, this would mean tha if you got 50 fps and then added vulkan in you'd get absolutely cucked out of frames at 60hz

Jews don't like hot things user

The 1060 is going to outperform on all of those. The 1060 is just a much faster card than the 480. It's actually much better than the 480 at DX12, pic related.

>with async enabled, the 480 processes a lot of data and the potato processor x4 955 from 2009 with core 2 quad level of performance cannot keep up with the 480's async
Been awhile since I red so much bullshit

I would recommend doing something that many people would probably call being a retard and that is dropping some cash on a semi future proof gpu like the new nvidia Titan x pascal. The benchmarks are out and you can achieve 4k60fps with this gpu. The card is 1200 but just don't buy another card for 3-4 years.

>It's actually much better than the 480 at DX12, pic related.
try some game next time

>The card is 1200 but just don't buy another card for 3-4 years.
some people like frequent upgrades

If we're talking about future DX12 performance, Time Spy is the best measurement.

It's literally designed specifically as a DX12 benchmark.

Here's another one, the 1060 is way faster than the 480 at DX12.

You're comparing an overclocked AIB 1060 to the ref. Ref 480 and 1060 are equivalent in that test.

Overall 3dmark timespy seems really weird because all benchmarks show that the 480 overall performs slightly better than the 1060 in dx12 games. In the end it comes down to the games and in dx12 the 480 is objectively faster.

To answer OP honestly both cards are really good. 5% here or there personally doesn't make a big difference. Sometimes we stare at the numbers too much, if you're running a 60hz monitor both cards will deliver at least 60fps in dx11 and dx12. I've been thinking about getting the MSI Gaming X RX480 but because of no available cards I might go with the 1060 MSI equivalent instead. Just get a good AIB card like the MSI and you're set for at least 2 years.

>time spy
>dx12

choose one

1060 it is then. Thanks guys. Revert all doubting anons to this thread

I want to buy a 1060 but i read that the price would be $250 but i keep seeing prices from $270-$350 anyone pls help?

See Reference 1060 in DX12 is way faster than reference 480 in DX12

Check www.nowinstock.net

>Vulkan games

There has to be more than one to use the plural

By the time there are enough DX12/vulkan games to constitute a library of games worth playing, it'll be time to upgrade again anyway

And all GTX 1060 are reference anyhow. Even their AIB partners perform pretty much the same. So you can pretty much discount GTX 1060 reference and just compare AIB partner cards from both teams. Compare an MSI RX480 Gaming X against any GTX 1060 card for instance and it will level things up a bit.

and here yo go. The differences are marginal.

>all GTX 1060 are reference

Uhh no they aren't. Jesus you're dumb.

They all pretty much overclock to the same amount of 2100Mhz. They all use about the same amount of power. They all pretty much have the same temps. If they were that much different from reference they would have differences in overclock potential.

You just got rekt by Lmao

I am in a similar situation as OP. Trying to achieve 21:9 1440p 60hz minimum. My options are
>a cheap shit gtx 1080 and an aftermarket huge fucking air cooler for 720ish€
>an actually good 1080 for 760€ minimum
>two r9 nanos for crossfire for 700€ flat
I kinda want to go with the crossfire nanos but i hear that multigpu a shit. So what do?

I think the better question is how long it's going to take for there to actually be respectable supplies of these cards.

Ah fuck it. I meant Too many (You)'s

This is where the thread ends up when nvidia shills get btfo by their own source

I think I still need to come back to these 2 graphs. Both show the same AIB partner card for both teams falling within a margin of error on performance. The GTX 1060 leads 'marginally' but given and other few readings it might even up or might not. But ~50 pooints either way is nothing to worry about.

Literally none of that is true. Look at any review for the 1060s, they are all significantly better than reference.

The 1060 is clearly faster than the 480 in basically everything

See and Honestly the 480 is just plain awful compared to a 1060

>Wait for MSI 480 to be in stock and buy it for 319€ + shipping
You'd have to be a retard to pick this. This card is designed to be 30~50€ cheaper not more expensive.


>Sapphire RX 470 from german site for 269€ + shipping
I don't see why you'd go for this one considering it's a reference cooler with a shiny silver top...

>Gigabyte GTX 1060 available at local shop for 320€
Is it an actual custom cooler that makes no noise and that has VRAM actually cooled?

Meh all the options suck dick. I'd wait a bit I payed 350€ for a R9 390 I'd wait for a RX 490 and then eventual price drop of the 1070 and then decide.

You're the worst shill I've seen on Sup Forums so far and that says a lot

You guys need to ask your supervisor for more pay. I guess the Indian call centers would not hire you for some reason. You always reply with the same cut and paste responses.

>the truth is shilling

Wow AMDtards really can't handle reality.

Don't waste your money, and buy a 1070 with a good cooler instead.

I have a nvidia gpu but nice try

I'll never understand how such low as fuck value things and GPUs and Consoles can attract such a huge shitposting value.

I could buy one 480 or 1060 or PS4 or Xbone a month for the rest of my life and not care.

Jesus it's just 300$ what are you all sperging on about. I've seen people less dedicated to their 100.000$ Mercedes cars willing to say yeah that Audi or BMW is better. I might get it later.

And you people are her arguing over 1060 vs RX 480 like they're your own fucking family or something...

why are ppl buying these cards for €300 when you could have just bought GTX970 2+ years ago for €370 for almost the same performance?

Thats less than 10 cents a day for having the same level of performance 2 years earlier.

Because they don't have a 970?

But yeah I have a R9 390 since it came out payed 350€ for it and I lose what maybe 10% out to 1060/480...

But i thought the 1070 is too weak for my purposes? How well does it scale with oc? A friend of mine reportedly has his strix 1070 stable at 2300mhz core so i might consider it.

It's called having nothing going on in your life like this guy

Any Europoors in the market for a 1070?
This is currently the cheapest 1070 in the EU for 400€.

mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8192MB-Gainward-GeForce-GTX-1070-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_1114086.html

I cannot decide between rx480 nitro or fury nitro
I can get rx480 for 250 quid and fury for 300.

>for 400€
>price is 440€
Pick one