Linux Distro for newfags?

What's a good linux distro for a newfag? I tried ubuntu and it looked like some orangey rip-off of Microshaft. I hear good things about Mint?

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You heard correct. Go with Mint. Do not listen to anyone trying to push you into a distro more advanced than mint or *buntu.

I repeat: DO NOT LISTEN.

Ubuntu. Mint is a meme, run by amateurs.

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>linux distro
>Sup Forums
KEK
I was going to get Mint but Sup Forums said it was worse then ubuntu..

Slackware or Gentoo
>but i am le babby man i can't use hard OS
you aren't going to learn how to use Linux with Ubuntu or Mint, you're just going to use the GUI all the time like on Windows.

KDE Neon if u want KDE ( the most featured )
Linux Mint if you want Cinnamon ( the most Windows-like)
Ubuntu Mate if you want Mate ( the simplest )

Xubuntu for (very) slow computer

Mint is a fucking mess under the hood. You would be more secure with almost any other distro.

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yes but you used your Sup Forums image folder vaggot

>KDE Neon if u want KDE ( the most featured )
You tried KDE Neon? It is the first time I hear about it. You recommend it really?

But what if that's all OP wants

Some month ago i would recommend Kubuntu but Canonical doesn't give a shit anymore of KDE and the version of the 16.04 is shitty and buggy
With KDE Neon you have an Ubuntu-based with the last stable version of KDE (if you take the user edition ) wich is currently very stable

Debian > Ubuntu

Debian don't have PPA and all package are too old.
And don't even talk about testing or unstable for a daily use

+100

Debian = Ubuntu

Oh god, no.

I tried KDE neon really wanting to like it, as KDE looked amazing, and neon seemed like the slimmest, newest, most appealing version.

On e5450:
countless multi-monitor issues
docking multi monitor issues
cannot shutdown via GUI, appears as though it will but never does (!!!!!)
hibernate doesn't work
once closed and left in briefcase, discovered it minutes later scalding hot.

so uh nah. went from this to kubuntu, before I realized that despite my best wishes, in its current state KDE a shit.

currently using mint cinnamon and fedora with success

Just compile from source if you want newer version. Idiot.

Debian stable, start there.

Mint is an absolute disaster. Anyone advocating that you use it is a newbie themselves. It's basically Ubuntu but maintained by one guy with a different desktop environment, crippled updating system and an annoying 'search enhancement' botnetted into firefox.

Debian > Ubuntu > Mint

Just go to the source and learn it.

mx-15 for older computers, looks really nice

or lxle for even older computers, has everything out of box

Im not sure if there is any distros for newer computers, anyone know?

oh ya, mints just like ubuntu, but looks nicer, got me hooked on linux and all the free wares, but didnt stick with it

If you have a desktop use fedora. laptop? use your stock OS.

xubuntu

>this confuses the autist

Manjaro

same here.

This. Ubuntu is the only polished distro.

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They sell starbucks in a can now ?

> Larry Wall is a newbie

Mint is the same as Ubuntu. Period. It's just Ubuntu with Cinnamon (the best Cinnamon integration you can get). Default settings, packages and whatever you don't like in Mint as it comes by default can be changed... just like you would change them on Ubuntu.

Gentoo.

Should I go with Ubuntu or Xubuntu? Or does it matter?

I kind of like Xfce over Unity.

Tbh, antegros with gnome
easy install
everything just werks

holy shit is this Falco?

I'm planning on trying out Ubuntu with an live cd.

What are some things I can do to make sure everything is working properly?

One reason not to use mint.

Go with Ubuntu instead

Stock ubuntu is legit just as easy to use as windows 8 with the exception of installing stuff takes more effort

Ubuntu was legit easier for me to pickup than windows vista was, all the software I needed was on the software center

Gentoo. Use the extremely thorough documentation.

Ubuntu is closer to Windows privacy wise, than Unix.

If you don't think you're competent to do so, just know that I successfully installed it after not eating for 3 days, while in severe pain (type 2 trigeminal neuralga), suffering from malnutrition otherwise, with my brain full of histamine, and with SIBO, ie, bacteria in my gut generating toxins that are readily transported across the intestinal wall. I won't lie, the kernel configuration step was difficult because I kept forgetting what sections I'd already done and internally refused to move in serial order. But I did it just fine. If you can't do it, you're intrinsically inferior to me. Yes, intrinsic inferiority. Meaning on your best day, you're net inferior to me, possibly even on my worst. In such a case, get fucked lazy braindead degenerate. :^)

linux mint bro.

>starbucks in a can
NEVER AGAIN

If I could restart my journey Id probably start with arch.
Shit will teach you to read the docs carefully real quick.

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

Yep it's him.

Got given a Samsung N150+ to fuck around with, the specs are garbage so what distro should I use and do I have to do anything specific to get WiFi working?

>Debian don't have PPA and all package are too old.
Never heard of sid?

If you wanna learn linux go Slackware or gentoo. If you want "just werks" go for Debian although you will have an orientation period.

thanks onii chan

Negatory. Mint is greeny rip-off of Microshaft with shitty code (shittier than Ubuntu). Literally any distro is better.

This desu senpai
Slackware can't be a serious advice, can it?

If you wanna learn Gentoo, get Gentoo. If you wanna learn Linux, get Slackware. This is coming from a Gentoo desktop user. Although Gentoo does definitely teach you more about Linux internals than most other distros (and definitely more than Arch, which does essentially everything for you except for the cool kid ricing xDdddd)

>Slackware can't be serious advice
I see you started your Linux adventure in the past few months. Welcome.

Tell me about it, then. From what I've heard, Slackware is rather bareboned, stable to the point of getting old at release and lacks a package manager.

You need to install gentoo!

linux isnt for you OP
stick to your gaymen OS

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In Mint you can trust.

For Chromebooks: GalliumOS

Debian and Fedora are great if you want a good OS that works.

Gentoo and Arch if you want to learn more about it and waste your time on something just for the sake of it (ex interested in coding or just a NEET).

People here on Sup Forums usually say shit about mint but it fills it's purpose, it's a great starting distro and it does work great, some people just want something easy that just runs and have no prior linux knowledge, mint is great for them.

>interested in coding
welp i think im gonna take this advice

Not that guy, but:
>Bareboned
If, by this, you mean that it is completely open and is configured very easily through completely plaintext configuration files, then yes. If you mean that it uses vanilla packages with no patches, making everything work exactly as upstream wanted it and making troubleshooting easy, then also yes.
>Stable to the point of getting old at release
It is incredibly stable, but it has relatively new versions of packages at release. Obviously they get older as you wait for a new release, just like with any other non-rolling-release distro, but there is a rolling release, Slackware-current. It isn't Arch/Gentoo-tier hemorrhaging edge, because it's just the current set of packages being successively updated for the new release, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
>Lacks a package manager
It has a package manager, slackpkg. I don't think anybody says it doesn't have a package manager. It lacks automatic dependency management, but that isn't a problem because it clearly tells you what you need. The package selection is fairly small, however. The reason for this is that you can supplement it with stuff from elsewhere. It is ridiculously easy to turn any source code into a package that is installable and removable with slackpkg, but a site called slackbuilds.org provides most everything you'll ever need so that doesn't really become necessary. You can use a widely used package manager provided by slackbuilds.org called "sbopkg" to automatically install stuff from the site, making it easy to install literally anything.

I have never had anything break using Slackware, and its use of vanilla packages makes it easy to follow the instructions of the developer of the program when you dont know how to use it or need help, because it works exactly as it was designed. The plaintext config makes it easy to get things working exactly as you want them, without needing to use some systemd meme config program that modifies secret binary files.

Be advised op these two are dropout distros, you only get into these if you WANT a timesink because you're unemployable

Debian is nice. Fedora is a meme with a literal app store.

Arch is an almost-good distro, Gentoo is a great distro.

Debian is good enough for a beginner with no knowledge, and it works great for a long time user too. No need to complicate things with broken shittily coded green themed memes like Mint. (That means don't use the shittily coded green themed meme distro named Manjaro either. It takes a mediocre distro and turns it into a shit distro, in much the same way Mint does with Ubuntu.)

Neither of these is a timesink.

Slackware justwerks and Gentoo justwerks if you can take ten seconds a day to type "emerge --sync && emerge -uDvN && emerge --depclean", and if you cron that, it justwerks.

Slackware has an automatic installer though, so it's better for new folks than Gentoo, which has an Arch-tier manual installation thing from a live shell environment. There are also Gentoo Live CDs though, which are nice and easy. The only hard or long thing about Gentoo is the installation, and these cut down on that.

I use Gentoo on desktop and Slackware on a server. Slackware takes 0 seconds a day to manage. Gentoo takes 5 seconds a day to manage. Easy as pie. Installation of Slackware took about 5 minutes. Installation of Gentoo took like 3-4 hours, but almost all of that was just rebuilding world, which you don't actually need to do and which you don't even need to be at the computer for. (I wasn't even at the computer for more than 15 minutes of the installation process for Gentoo.)

Thank you! Sounds sweet, clarity is what most distributions really lack. So it's like something between a "regular" DIY distribution like, say, Arch, and LFS?

>bareboned
Byword for no software

>stable
Yeah right because your average slack turd sticks to the "software" on the CD so you have 700 megs of nothing as we are approaching plan9 and bsd tier autism in which they don't have any software and just say the whole internet post 1999 is "bad" so you don't really NEED a web browser with CSS support

>I've never had anything break with slack
Probably true but the saying goes that if you cut off a dog's legs he will never break them. Slack is more like an anti version of osx where there's a universe of nothing and then being claimed it's some sort of by design "ecosystem"

If it's stable why are there 0 slack servers as hosts? No important site runs slack, it's a timesink dropout distro.

The reason why we have so many legit "omg I tried Linux and it's loser neet shit" threads is because every time some new person shows up asking about it, all the employed redhat and Debian people can't post from their jobs and you sink under a sea of ironic dropout timesink loser "recommendations" where they're using it as a drug to get high off of and waste all their free time.

Take a step back and really ask yourself if a newbie is going to get 4 lines through your obscure gay installation process before coming back and saying LINUX SUCKS.

>Gentoo justwerks if you can take ten seconds a day to type "emerge --sync && emerge -uDvN && emerge --depclean", and if you cron that, it justwerks
At every given update there's a chance, albeit small, to break something. Which isn't a problem in itself, but I prefer to make updates when I have free time, just in case.

Pretty much any of the major one shilled on here are good for anybody. Ubuntu, Arch, Fedora, Debian, etc. They all have their own repositories that contain 99% of the applications you need. Some are more tedious than others to get setup with the proper drivers, but I wouldn't call it hard.

I would suggest a flavor of Manjaro. It's Arch based but more friendly to people coming from Windows OS. Manjaro has their own repository than Arch's, but you still get access to AUR.

Debian is the most stable, and most popular. If any software/application supports linux, they will likely have a .deb package that you can install with Gdebi or something.

Ubuntu is based off of Debian, and is the most popular for beginners. I personally can't stand all the bloat. Lubuntu idled consuming ~900mb of memory, while Manjaro with the same DE idled at around 275mb.

Fedora is for virgin autists hence the name, but I don't judge so I included it anyways. It's controlled by a publicly traded corporation.

My ratings
>1: Arch/Manjaro
>2: Debian
>3: Ubuntu
>4: Fedora
>Honorable Mentions: Slackware

>Manjaro
Isn't this an ubuntulike all-included system built on Arch, but even more unstable than Ubuntu? Why would you use that.

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You could also go for Ubuntu, Debian, redhat, mint which have all eliminated this problem because they aren't stuck in the past, soon you'll see the arch/gentooslack loser defence force say shit like "it won't break if you read 4 hours of mailing lists" which is not only not inconvinent for them but they fucking NEED it to fill up their time.

Linux distros post 2010 are about running or making your app, it should self maintain itself and be as transparent as the kernel is to programs to your business.

>implying Ubuntu, Debian or whatever don't break on update, or out of the blue
You see, the problem is, they do. Which is why I stick to Gentoo which generally breaks _less_

>I kind of like Xfce over Unity.
You answered your own question.

>installed mint next to windows today to start messing around with Linux and get familiar with it
>this thread happens
Time to wipe that partition and download Debian haha [spoiler]fuck[/spoiler]

kill yourself

Whatever you want to pretend is fine to fit in on irc, bottom line is these timesink distros don't run anything important. Server world is redhat, Debian, Ubuntu, HP and dell and major OEMS have installation docs and drivers for them on their servers because there is actual interest from business, you don't see gentoo mentioned much.

It really is pretty comfy desu senpai
Ah. You can install anything you fucking like, thanks
>Install
>Open up Firefox
>Get sbopkg
>Install whatever you want
>Months later
>Find one of the two or three packages not in official repos or in sbo
>Download source
>Make a package with like one command
>Installpkg package.tgz

That answers all of the other REEing except for one.
>obscure gay installation process
Literally a graphical installer that asks simple questions about what you want and does it for you

Yeah, I guess there is a miniscule chance of something requiring a use change or maybe just failing to build, but those problems take moments to fix. Still, I get your point.

It won't break, period, with Gentoo. Sometimes you just have to make a small config file change, but it tells you what to change and even has tools to do it automatically if you like.

Gentoo and slack are both pretty big on servers, slack more so though.

I'm not going to pretend they're Debian-big.

Me again. And I'm just gonna say that they (and bsds) are rising in popularity after a long period of slump (Gentoo somewhat more than Slack) because of systemd. Gentoo is the distro known most widely to be non-default-systemd. It forked udev for God's sake.

Mint is just Ubuntu with a skin made by jihadis.
Install xubuntu or ubuntu gnome.
Don't fall for the mint shills.

>that strong babby duck syndrome
GNU/Linux is not for you, idiot.

>apt-get install Firefox
>weeks later no work required as it will update itself daily
Problem is apt and Ubuntu are too easy/mainstream/good and we muat pretend to use an "exotic" distro

Which servers
>nothing important
>oh but this one cherry picked company in a red and orange sea of Debian and Ubuntu

I just came up with a new idea for a distro, its called slackbuntu. Basically, install Ubuntu but remove all the repo lines except for the CD, you aren't allowed to download anything else. Will never break. Thankfully it has a web browser included so you can get online and tell everyone how superior you are, but don't because the web is cancer anyway.

>ubuntu looked like some orangey rip-off of Microshaft.
Uhh, what? Ubuntu Unity is clearly trying to appear like Mac OS

>Linux is Muh secret club
>go shitdistro or go home cause I'm a dropout

agreed sir

>I didn't read any of the previous replies and am still meming about there being no software for Slackware
Ok

>Slackware got its package manager 3 years ago and Ubuntu/deb et al have had them since 2003
Fine

Also,
>if I can't post a list of 4000 companies that use Gentoo and 10000 that use Slackware then they're shit distros

Again, Debian is more widely used in servers. That doesn't mean every other distro on Earth is suddenly invalid and a meme. I don't need to argue here. If you were willing to be converted, you would be willing to Google reasons to use it yourself.

>3 years ago
Well done making a new meme lie. Slackware was among the first to have package managers, if not the first.

I'm not being converted, this is for newbies which is why the thread was started. You are doing the Linux community a disservice when you ironically "recommend" gentoo, slack, or arch. There is no defence for this, you are doing this because secretly you WANT them to flip out in 5 hours and come back and make a "Linux is for losers!!!!!!" thread.

You spend most of your time hating on "normies"... there is NO way that a "normie" is going to make it 5 minutes into gentoo/slack.

>What's a good linux distro for a newfag
Install ubuntu then spin up some VMs w/ kvm and have fun learning centos and debian.

Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

And I should note that I don't use Slack and Gentoo because I want to be a special snowflake. I used Slack for a while years ago, and moved to Gentoo when it became widely used in the early-mid 2000s. Meanwhile I've continued using Slackware on my server because it requires no work to maintain. When I started using these distros, they WERE the normal distros.
inb4 Hur dur lie nobody on Sup Forums is older than 20

*tips*

But user otherwise Linux will become to mainstream and then
>Muh sekret club
Won't exist

I just installed mint on the computer I'm posting from as my first linux experience.

What exactly will happen next? Will it get taken over by 1337 haxors or set fire to my computer?

Nothing, that's the point
You'll wake up tomorrow and everything will be fine because mint respects your time

Converted tons of my friends on mint, Ubuntu and they figured out how to install Skype on their own. My entire family is on it and I haven't gotten a call in over 5 years. How much luck have the gentoo and slack anti-users had with their friend conversions? Does it end with an invitation to your one man irc circlejerk?