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devuan.org/os/init-freedom/
suckless.org/sucks/systemd
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dmenu
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux#Linux_Mint
lwn.net/Articles/676664/
systemd-free.org/
github.com/torvalds/linux/search?utf8=✓&q=shit
adtmag.com/blogs/dev-watch/2014/04/linus-torvalds-rants.aspx
twitter.com/AnonBabble

After looking for window-managers/desktop-environments I started using xfce with the i3 window manager, but, xfce-panel doesn't interface as well with i3 as i'd hope, and would now like to go to standard i3

However I like the "just werks" aspect of whiskermenu and would like to know if there is any application launcher that interfaces with i3bar/whatever-else-is-compatible-with-i3 well, and has a customizable icon

Any suggestions? I'm still relatively new to loonix, and was drawn to it by it's modulability

First for try Devuan.

So the argument is standardization. Why not runit?

nah.

bspwm + lemonbar master race reporting in

The argument is "because". When you have a corporation pushing for one system and one system only you have to use the gray matter between your ears.

> why not runit

systemd got here first and has Red Hat backing it. Having never used runit I can't say which is better.

There's also the fact that systemd is more than just an init system - its a software suite composing an entire low-level system.

daily reminder:

Low-level standartization is great, but the way it is implemented now is a cancer in itself, because systemd will lead to the unitary ecosystem ran by corporations, with appstores, late security fixes, NSA backdoors and all the shit we can see in Windows or OSX, only even shittier and with greater choice of DEs. They should have standartized APIs and keep any "standart" software, as long as it is absolutely necessary, as slim as possible. Instead they are basically writing Windows on top of Linux kernel and telling everyone it's good.

>systemd got here first
not true and you know it

Silly question, but can you force screenfetch to show GPU details also? Mine doesn't display GPU details at all in Ubuntu, and in Arch it only showed one, though I have two (laptop - one's the shitty integrated Intel graphics, and the others is Nvidia). I'm using proprietary drivers from both Intel and Nvidia, yet screenfetch doesn't show any of them

If I choose to install a WM over an entire DE what other software should I install that comprises a DE?

Your screenfetch is possibly outdated.
Use screenfetch-dev from github.
Also read the manpage: man screenfetch.

Would you leave GNU/Linux if it became mainstream like Windows? Would developers have to start pandering to the mainstream crowd for you to leave, or would the "normie" infiltration/destruction of the community be enough to drive you out?

Last time I checked Systemd was still FOSS. It's true that it will further consolidate Red Hat's dominion over the Linix world, but I sincerely doubt that things will get as bad as Microsoft/Apple. Late security fixes are never an issue with FOSS, and the NSA has a substantially harder time backdooring it. I also have yet to see any evidemce that Red Hat works with the NSA (Selinux having originally been developed by them is not evidence; it too is FOSS and has been audited many times).

So while some of your concerns are valid, I think that the open-spurce ecosystem will handle it.

Oh thanks, I'll get right to that when I'm finished attempting to set up xSwipe; I just ran apt-get install screenfetch and though the latest version would be in the repository, but I'll check out the github

There isn't really anything to leave it for at this point. It's more possible for Linux itself to split to normalfag part and "true" part, with them becoming largely incompartible..

I use it for freedom and because it's simply better. I don't care about market share. Mainstream may add more support for drivers and games, which isn't a bad idea tho, but it will also breed bad distros (retard friendly instead of user friendly).

I think widespread adoption would be a very good thing because it would drive corporations to take an interest in FOSS and make hardware support better.

There will always be minimal, anti-normie distributions for people who like old-school (shit, Slackware is still going strong after 22 years).

>the NSA has a substantially harder time backdooring it
True, but the spaghetti code makes it hard to find backdoors too, FOSS or not

Some things about init freedom:
devuan.org/os/init-freedom/

Yes, it may not be as bad as I think, but still there's no real reason to like systemd. Especially considering a number of retarded decisions made through its development, turning it into a bloblike bloatware. I already sperged about binary logs in one of the previous threads, afair.

>systemd will lead to the unitary ecosystem ran by corporations, with appstores, late security fixes, NSA backdoors

Red Hat already employs developers in critical Linux projects with MUCH less diverse contributions than systemd. Why is systemd suddenly different and bad?

The Linux kernel itself is about 85% run by corporate developers, and certainly practically everybody in a decision-making (apart from Torvalds) works for some company or other, and Torvalds trusts these people hugely.

SystemD sucks. suckless.org/sucks/systemd

Torvalds is actually pretty much triggered by systemd stuff like binary logs.

According to what?

That doesn't even matter anyway, it's completely tangential to my point.

What Linux projects are as critical as systemd? Corporation having control over the only init (and not only init) system is the corporation holding the whole linux world by its balls.

how to make this kind of images?

>ls -l videos/
>one video is executable
-rwxrwxrwx 1 user group 153M Sep 10 2013 'hc_likes_it_rough.mp4'

Here's a bash function:
magick_thumbnail() {
thumbnail="$1"
payload="$2"
output="${3:-magick.png}"

convert \
\( "$payload" +level 4%,86% -colorspace RGB -gamma 50 -write mpr:orig \) \
\( "$thumbnail" +level 0%,82% -gamma 0.9 \) \
\( -size 2x2 xc:white -draw 'point 0,0' -write mpr:pat +delete mpr:orig -tile mpr:pat -draw 'color 0,0 reset' \) \
-composite +gamma 0.023 -depth 16 "$output"
}

$ magick_thumbnail thumbnail_pic.png enlarged_pic.png output.png

You got that from some NTFS-infested drive, didn't you?

Two questions: One relevant, one not relevant.

1. How do I make pictures be different pictures when clicked on in Sup Forums? (like OP's image)

2. Has anyone here managed to get a custom kernel to run Fedora? I used to be able to use Grsecurity then one day it started throwing kernel panics, even if I just downloaded the kernel, loaded the system's configuration, and compiled that with no changes.

Will post more good stuff in exchange for answers.

openbox pcmanfm lxappearance lxrandr lxdm lxpanel
>or
i3 pcmanfm lxappearance lxrandr

maybe...

>whatdo
Open it.

>Will post more good stuff in exchange for answers.
sauce first

Whats the best dock
im on xubuntu if that matters

none

use dmenu or hotkeys

dmenu?

wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dmenu

I finally decided to stop using Mint and made the switch to Debian. However, the install crashed half way through and my laptop shutdown. What do?

> sauce first

Fair enough. She's Amanda Love. Check pornhub for the video.

>What do?
Post errors, maybe someone will help.

Try to install it again? Make a new livecd/usb with a new iso? Try a different distribution?

Or do you mean your laptop like won't even boot? Because that really, really, really shouldn't happen.

Anyway, obligatory install Gentoo.

...

linux newb here

>NetworkManager-Message: No config file found or given; using /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf

how to get rid of warning? I can connect just fine, still want little to no warnings or errors though

Warnings are not errors, they can be ignored. If it's not a problem and it doesn't shove it in your face constantly or something then just ignore it.

wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux#Linux_Mint

lwn.net/Articles/676664/

This is why you should switch from Mint tbqh

Alright then

If that's your concern you couldn't use most distros

What's the currently best tool to compress PNGs?

>Thirdly, while they import packages from Ubuntu or Debian, they hi-jack package and binary names by re-using existing names. For example, they called their fork of gdm2 "mdm" which supposedly means "Mint Display Manager". However, the problem is that there already is a package "mdm" in Debian which are "Utilities for single-host parallel shell scripting". Thus, on Mint, the original "mdm" package cannot be installed.

That's my main problem, it particularly triggers my autism

I would suggest Linux Lite, however I don't know if it does the same

pnggauntlet

Fedora 24 or Ubuntu 16.04 ?

optipng

The one I'm using.

Gentoo.

I would suggest Fedora
Don't use normal Ubuntu
use Xubuntu or Kubuntu or something if you want

Or use Gentoo like I am :^)

Is there any "better" programming languages for linux?

Why do these pictures always only work in the browser, but in no image viewer I've tested so far?

Fedora KDE spin over here.

I've used their LXDE, Cinnamon, MATE, and GNOME spins. The GNOME one runs the best - I'd just install that and install KDE manually.

> dnf grouplist -v
> dnf groupinstall [kde package]
> select plasma from lock screen menu
> profit

I just used the netinstall, personally.

> give sauce
> get no answers

Fuck you guys.

If this is a complete asspull someone correct me please, but I think it works through color correction metadata that gets interpreted by your browser but most image viewer ignore it?

Do I need to create mount directories for every partition?

I have 4 partitions, one for grub, boot, swap, and root. I'm thinking I only need to actually mount boot and root but I'm not sure. If I need to mount grub and swap, what should the directory names be called?

The magic is the gamma attribute.

Sup Forums converts pictures to jpg thumbnails (without gamma), therefore you see RMS instead of Linus. If your image viewer supports changing the gamma, you can view both pictures (git related shows mpv).

Reminder for people who compress their PNGs: If you compress them, make sure NOT to strip this attribute (which is mostly stripped by default) or the magic is gone.

Thanks.

mpv was one of the "image viewers" I tested, did not think of changing the gamma.

>tfw forced to use Arch because muh bleeding edge and systemd is the future

Does nothing really compete with Arch? Why isn't Debian Sid more popular than it is?

systemd-free.org/

never tried it but at least a sort of community and support exists

I hear a lot of good things about Void lately. Maybe it will get more popular, who knows.

I know I don't have to use systemd right now but as time goes on systemd is going to become more and more prevalent. Being a rebel will be a PITA as time goes on and I don't want to deal with that. I might as well learn systemd and get used to it.

>Why isn't Debian Sid more popular
Because there's no debian-sid.iso

Yeah, I might switch to it in the future depending on how it and the Linux ecosystem develop.

clicking on any notification on xubuntu, let it be firefox or wifi notifications, makes qbittorrent pop up. what do?

I know, but I always see Testing being recommended over Sid.

/r/equesting that image of richard stallman photoshopped in front of a computer with this face

lost it and I really need it back

Please avoid using the term “photoshop” as a verb, meaning any kind of photo manipulation or image editing in general. Photoshop is just the name of one particular image editing program, which should be avoided since it is proprietary. There are plenty of free programs for editing images, such as the GIMP.

okay

/r/equesting that image of richard stallman GIMPed in front of a computer with this face

lost it and I really need it back

there :^)

>be a boring autistic retard
>fork a kernel back when kernels were simple as shit because you're bored
>gather a cult following because you're the first dude to do what he did
>be famous and revered all around the world based on other people's work

lol what a lucky faggot

Anyone else wish Torvalds was more interesting as a person? All of his interviews are terrible.

> Have shitty old netbook, replace HDD
> Fresh install of Win 7-32bit
> "No wireless drivers m8"
> Go to samsung website on PC
> None of the driver packages execute properly
> Pull my hair out trying loads of them


> Install Linux Mint
> "Here are your drivers senpai, ready and working"

How is this shit possible? How did Win 7 miss such a basic thing? Why are Samsung offering up broken / non-installing drivers? Why did mint "just werk?"

>Mint

into the trash it goes

A day or two ago I was lurking this thread and somebody posted a terminal command that brought all the files within a folder up the same directory as the folder. Can somebody tell me where I can find the archive, or if the person that posted the command, can repost it? It was for .jar files.

> be finnish coder
> write your own kernel because there's none that suit your needs
> integrate it with another OS project
> create best operating system yet

He's very interesting; you should read his rants on github and other places.

I gimp pictures and images all day

> mint
Please love yourself. Install Ubuntu if you want that sort of distro.

searched the archives and found this
find . -type f -name "*.jar" -exec mv {} . \;

...

Where are they?

...

github.com/torvalds/linux/search?utf8=✓&q=shit

Here's one fun thing.

adtmag.com/blogs/dev-watch/2014/04/linus-torvalds-rants.aspx

Here's some actual yelling.

What's a screenshot application that allows me to set hotkeys and automatically upload to Imgur? I used SnippingTool++ on Windows. The only thing I found for linux was the XFCE screenshot, which I installed, but then it installed XFCE Panel and XFCE Util that adds a bunch of useless shit that I don't need.

Are there any screenshot tools where I could quickly upload to an image site with hotkeys for full screen, active window, and optionally draw a selection box.

i3 or awesome?

openbox

is linux good for games? i don't want to sound like a huge faggot but gayming and vidya is a hard habit to kick... so, straight up leenuks or dual-boot w/ wangblows?

this desu.

Last time I checked, which was a long time ago, Ubuntu was a meme distro and nothing worked. Thought I would give mint a go and it was fine.

Getting curious about Ubuntu now. Its been about 10 years since I last installed it.

i3, of course.
and i3-gaps if you wanna get aesthetic

I don't play any Windows games on my Manjaro laptop to be honest so can't help you. I only play Minecraft with my niece and CS:GO on Steam, and both perform better than on my Windows 10 gaming desktop.

How long does unpacking the gentoo stage 3 tarball take

It's been a sort of long time

How does it feel using a WM taken over by Pajeet refugees

Start playing Dwarf Fortress.
It works fine on leenuks and will consume your desire to play anything else.