What does Sup Forums think of logitech's new mouse?

What does Sup Forums think of logitech's new mouse?

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There have been no worthwhile advancements in mice since 1999. Most people shouldn't even use mice anymore, they're inferior to a wide array of ergonomic input devices people are just too stupid to take a day to adjust to.
>MUH GAYMEN SENSORS
Guess what? You're not good enough at your gaymes to justify these retarded precise sensors. It's like getting a high powered, .25 MOA sniper rifle and not using a scope. If you're not getting a ROI from professional gaming where being 4ms faster than the other nigga actually matters then you're a fucking moron.

P.S. Logitech is garbage. Your pro gaymer idols use it because they're paid to. Sorry, not sorry.

How can I replace this?

how can that replace this?

>Sorry, not sorry.

I don't necessarily disagree with your post but if you actually talk like that and are not a 15 year-old high school girl then kill yourself my man.

This is it, the endgame mouse.

It's finally fucking happening. People have been waiting for this so fucking long that in the meanwhile, bst made his own mouse which is basically this but worse.

MX300 is fucking back. With a 3366 and those batshit insane clicks from the 302 and 303. And really, this seems more in line with the MX300/RX250 than G100s is because it's slightly less wide in the sensor area, which is really important for nutcases like me.

Instant fucking buy. All praise Logitech for listening, resounding fuck you to the industry for ignoring fingertip grippers for so long and may Logitech's reign last forever.

I can't express the feels properly and I know this shitter imageboard won't understand.

> $70

What the shit. This better come in a gold and silver box studded with diamonds for this price.

what mouse is this?

Does it require Logishit software to be running or are settings saved to the mouse?

Shape wise it seems like they finally came to their senses after releasing all those spaceship abominations for years.

Yeah, this too.
I don't understand why these mice are so expensive. Does the sensor cost so much?

So you're saying I should exclusively use kinect or other gesture controlled sensor to play games and control UIs? There's a reason mice are still a legit perfect input method because they work better than anything else on the market.

It's a GAMER mouse man, pay the premium or stay a NOOB

Is it accurate, Sup Forums?

I know what you mean, but you would think at this point someone would come out and make the same mouse for $30. Some chink, whoever.
But nope, doesn't happen.

Mind you, I use a $10 office mouse right now, but the sensor is truly mediocre to the point that you can't use it for drawing circles.

Xiaomi hasn't come out with a mouse yet?

Your post convinced me to just use my thinkpad nipple forever instead of getting a top of the line comfortable mouse with a perfect sensor that, despite being advertised as a gaming device, is still perfectly suitable for everyday work.
[spoiler]you're a fucking faggot[/spoiler]

Literally everything you wrote is wrong

>Does it require Logishit software to be running or are settings saved to the mouse?

All saved on the mouse.

>mx518
>shit tier

look at this pleb

>not wanting to be a 15 year old grill

just look up what sensor the mouse uses and whether there are any build quality issues (loose lens etc.)
everything else is personal preference
do your own research instead of relying on someone's subjective """""""tier list"""""""

Seems like a downgrade to the G502.

Done.

>G502
I bought it to replace my G400. Returned it today. It's by far the shittiest mouse I've ever used.

If you're trying to impress your middle school buddies, yeah.

If you're not instantly ejaculating right now, this mouse is not for you. Those that know, know.

Whatever happened to the Ducky Secret mouse? Does anyone here own it?

the optimal gaming mouse design sure as hell wouldn't have any side buttons or dpi buttons anywhere near where they could accidentally interfere with mouse grip or clicking other buttons

the cable would be as thin as the wire connecting the mouse to the usb port so as to minimize cable drag. no, mouse bungies, don't solve this problem.

the mouse would be as light and small as possible as there's only one good grip and that's fingertip and the best size and shape for this is smaller and lighter.

the mouse would have a flawless sensor with one native dpi setting with no interpolation lag.

ideally the usb sampling rate would be 2000hz or greater as there's no good reason to not shave response time no matter how small so long as perfect tracking speed isn't sacrificed.

the mouse should be driverless eg plug and play with no software to interfere with optimal operation.

the click switches used should offer the fastest possible response typically the same ones found in logitech gaming mice eg omron.

anything less than this definition of a perfect mouse isn't a better design it's making concessions with your own personal failures with no exceptions.

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I've never ever in my life accidentally clicked the CPI button on my mouse (same position as this Logitech).
Besides, you can disable it.
But I do use it sometimes, not for gaming though.

Agree with the other points pretty much.

While this is a bait post, this mouse checks off most of that list.

>more light pollution level ricer shit
their mice have been trash since the G500.

This is my same question.

I want a new mouse but I'm stuck with this because everything else SUCKS DICK.

God damn it logitech really fucked up the last 3 years or so since they started using that dumb G logo...

For fuck sake make a god damn g4000 or whatever....

disabling it isn't good enough because that means installing your shit tier software to make concessions with flawed design

if by most you mean misses the mark entirely, sure

All of my mice. And still no G400 replacement...

Gave away my MX500 that was a stupid move.

I had a G400, what a terrible shape, what a disgustingly terrible scroll wheel.

Did you ever try a properly designed mouse?

I've been using the MX500 shape for 15 years.

I'm not gonna switch now.

This. I fell for the g400s and now I'm stuck with this weird shaped mouse since few years now. I miss the old optical mouse from logitech, a revised version of it with side buttons and a better sensor would be perfect.

I'm a cheap fuck

I still have and use one of the black/blue 'crackled' G5's. The scroll wheel is ass, but I like the sensor and the shape of it. How does the G400 hold up in comparison to the G5 and MX518? Considering buying a new G400 from a friend that he never used for 50$.

I have a Mionix Naos 8200
It's one of the best mice I've ever had in my hands. Maybe not god-tier, but definitely not shit

what is the name of the mouse.
desu this imagesearch never worked for me.

I agree with all of the listed, but would also like to add.

Thumb buttons that are mounted vertically instead of horizontally. Its Much quicker and easier and quicker to move the thumb up, or down instead front to back. I don`t even know why it isnt a standard layour.

Smooth rubber scrollwheels like on those old logitech office mice. They are just easy to operate, smooth and fast.

No lumpy, cancerous ergomeme designs.

>if by most you mean misses the mark entirely, sure

Designed for fingertip, without a huge fucking ass - check.
Flawless as possible sensor without wondering which DPI setting is native - check.
Can work driverless - check.
Fastest possible switches - check.
Side buttons don't interfere with holding - check.

Cable can be changed and it's the only real flaw of this mouse.
Your sampling rate remark is pure autism.

but deathadder was shit, did you make this list

no, it's Sup Forums, of course they will rate trash-tier light pollution mice as being god tier because it was "made" for "gaymin"

I dislike gaymer gear too but you have mostly no idea what you are talking about.
The reason why gayming mouses actually matter is that for majority of competetive games you want good sensor with 1:1 tracking. That's really all that matters. You need this in order to ever get better at gaymes because only 1:1 sensors are completely predictable and let you practice your muscle memory properly. Everything else (high dpi, extra buttons and other shit) is completely irrelevant but sensor alone is actually important.
Older logitech mices were godly, thankfully my g400 still works so I have no need to try any of their newer products (or any newer mices for that matter)

gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/pro-gaming-mouse

I think youre a faggot

my one of these just broke and i'm using some cheapy shit that my mum bought at argos.

it's basically a g303 but instead of $30 it cost $70 and with a wider scrollwheel

not ideal fingertip size nor weight. passable doesn't cut it

flawless as possible sensor is word salad. one dpi without some screwball lense. period.
it can't work driverless you have to disable buttons
the presence of side buttons inherently interferes and needs to be disabled
the cable cannot feasibly be changed it must be a non removable cable

the only thing this mouse checks is the switches. it's the bare minimum game mouse not the pinnacle of it.

it only has 2 buttons on the left side, so its not worth buying. the g500s has 3 side buttons and is a dream with source games.

>not ideal fingertip size nor weight. passable doesn't cut it

It cuts it because it's the best you can get.

I too would prefer a laptop sized mouse with a fantastic sensor and maybe you'll have something like that available pretty soon. But for now, this is the best mouse you can get if you dislike mice digging into your palm and being able to actually make vertical movements without moving your entire arm.

>flawless as possible sensor is word salad. one dpi without some screwball lense. period.

Listen to this faggot. Why would you not be able to change DPI if it doesn't interfere with performance? Perhaps you don't like the feature, but you're planning to write objective gospel here, so think before you post.

>it can't work driverless you have to disable buttons

No, you don't. Both side buttons are recognized by Windows without any drivers.

>the presence of side buttons inherently interferes and needs to be disabled

It doesn't if they're positioned correctly. They are so, you are holding the mouse erroneously if you find them a problem. Correct this.

>the cable cannot feasibly be changed it must be a non removable cable

It can feasibly be changed and it's actually pretty easy. Go back to Sup Forums.

>It cuts it because it's the best you can get
>there's no food therefor my steaming pile of shit is the best food

> Why would you not be able to change DPI if it doesn't interfere with performance?
because it inherently does. the lense and software must make concessions for multiple dpi which manifest itself in the form of lag. a perfect sensor is designed from the ground up with a single dpi setting and a perfectly matched lense

> No, you don't. Both side buttons are recognized by Windows without any drivers.
the entire point is to not have side buttons

> It doesn't if they're positioned correctly. They are so, you are holding the mouse erroneously if you find them a problem. Correct this.
there's no such thing. side buttons are a concession period.

> It can feasibly be changed and it's actually pretty easy. Go back to Sup Forums.
no it cannot. false flagging means you're clueless. get lost

That 's a good looking mouse

I'll replace my g303 with it.

>the entire point is to not have side buttons

???

This "perfect sensor" thing is severely overestimated.
Nowadays pretty much any mouse over $20 will have a good enough sensor for almost all competitive gaming.
Most top tier CS:GO pros use mice with "flawed" sensors and do just fine.

Perfect sensors are better, sure, but they're not worth it if they come with shitty ergonomics and gimmicks like G502 and shit.

>It cuts it because it's the best you can get
>there's no food therefor my steaming pile of shit is the best food

It's really not shit though. It's definitely sufficiently small enough for comfortable fingertip operation.

What do you use, Jesus?

>because it inherently does. the lense and software must make concessions for multiple dpi which manifest itself in the form of lag. a perfect sensor is designed from the ground up with a single dpi setting and a perfectly matched lense

There is no lag anymore dipshit. Christ, read up on the 3366. Are you living under a rock?

>the entire point is to not have side buttons

What about those who like to use them? I don't use them at all, but I don't mind them when they don't interfere with the grip because I am not autistic.

>there's no such thing. side buttons are a concession period.

Maybe I should write this fingertip gospel of yours, you're shit at it.

>no it cannot. false flagging means you're clueless. get lost

Oh dear fucking god, this guy.

It's true, you lose your warranty so this is not painless operation. But it actually is easy.

>it can't work driverless you have to disable buttons
1. install driver
2. disable button
3. uninstall driver

If you're 100% satisfied with the g303 shape, just don't. This is the same mouse, but with a MX300/g1/g3/RX250/G100/etc, etc shape.

Case in point

you cannot use side buttons without making concessions with accuracy. for example you cannot properly grip the mouse while making a large sweeping motion and rapidly clicking the side button. all side buttons can do is interfere with mouse design and physical mouse aim. they are for stupid people. there's nothing that can't be objectively better mapped to a keyboard. the mouse1, 2 and mwheel buttons do not interfere with thumb and pinky grip while clicking and are thus perfect.


> It's really not shit though
it really is

> What do you use, Jesus
original g400

> read up on the 3366
i have. marketer victims doesn't defeat rock solid design logic. when designing object for multiple purpose concessions must be made. it's why some report "unexplained" lags.

> What about those who like to use them
design concession for mentally handicapped.


it doesn't retain settings and the shape, weight and cost of the mouse suffer from flawed design

Reminder that these are the people on Sup Forums who shill desktop Linux

and also putting a rom on a mouse adds weight adds cost and is a security risk

>it doesn't retain settings

Logitech claims it does, every decent new mouse does.

see
if it does that's even worse. i'm not footing the bill for retards.

>original g400

Ok, I can't read your shit anymore. You're a typical autistic Sup Forums monkey.

I just fixed the wire problem, it's nice. I didn't know better, cause most of my life I used a shitty mouse.

it's not perfect but i never claimed it was

What about Cooler Master's mice?
I have one and it feels very accurate.

This is why vertical thumb buttons should become the norm for more mice. It preserves the functionality without unnecessary movement and fiddling around.

How's that for making concessions with your personal failures then?

Literally using the original meme brick mouse that's as far as imaginably possible from a fingertip ideal. Even a g402 is better for fingertip and that's like saying "diarrhea is better than solid shit for a romantic dinner".

Don't mind me, I'll just moan about how no mouse is good enough for my fingertip grip while using an oversized potato because some clueless hipster retard on Sup Forums told me the g400 and WMO are the only options I have.

if it uses your thumb for anything but grip you're doing it wrong

i can still fingertip grip and i never said it was better retard i'm just gonna pay for sidegrade not supporting cancerous design. i'll use it till its dead

It's really, really not a sidegrade and you'd be much more comfortable with it over the fucking hilarious brick, but whatever. Use your meme mouse.

it really really is and i'll avoid supprting gamer cancer design for as long as possible

i have a working microsoft habu since 2008 but it looks like ass now.

whats the most similar mouse i can replace it with? at least 2000dpi because i like to move only my fingertips

>shitty ergonomics and gimmicks like G502
G502 fits my hand so perfectly though.

It's really, really not a sidegrade and you'd be much more comfortable with it over the fucking hilarious brick, but whatever. Use your meme mouse.

Razer Deathadder appears to be a similar shape.

There's a lot of similar mice out there though. Ask here overclock.net/f/375/mice

I've never understood why mice manufacturers never tried using buttons instead of pads. You could easily fit 4 buttons positioned naturally where the pads are (L1, L2, R1, R2), and wouldn't need the awkward side buttons.

G400s

it was their last mouse with that shape, now they have joined the transformer-looking-mouse club

>Razer Deathadder
dont buy. it will double click within a few months and then the scroll with start fucking up.

what mouse is it?

>Guess what? You're not good enough at your gaymes to justify these retarded precise sensors.

speak for yourself

I just want a G600 with updated sensor and switches.

#BringBackG400s

(You)

It's not about the "perfect" sensor, it's about getting a sensor with as little acceleration as possible. Only gaming mice actually aim to do this, if you buy a normal mouse there's no guarantee it won't have acceleration. In fact many mice purposefully have acceleration.

I personally prefer 1:1 movement even for desktop use, so I continue to buy gaming mice. I just turn off the LEDs and other gaymen features.

Thank (You).

>"Looks pretty nice, not too tacky. Looks pretty basic so it must be cheap, I might buy one"
>Checks website
>£69.99
>"Nevermind."

What's so good about this mouse that can justify that price? It costs almost as much as my mechanical keyboard which has over 100 switches, full backlighting and a metal backplate. This is just a piece of plastic with a few LEDs inside and a sensor.

I'm curious, but please Logitech. Make a MX518/G400 successor.

but it is shit tier, retard

this. 518 has autocorrection to make straight lines

>What's so good about this mouse that can justify that price?

It's one of the very few mice with the 3366/3360 sensor right now.
And supposedly it's well made, has a good shape, good buttons and wheel.

DM1 Pro S comes closest to it, but then it's pretty much just as expensive.

Once more mice with 3360 come out I expect the prices to go down. People are hyping this sensor too much, though, this is why manufacturers keep the prices up.

And they just promptly left it. Pro G looks almost respectable.

Logitech are leading the market in terms of sensor and switches. 3366 is the only thing that made MLT04 people shut up, I think even r0ach finally shut the fuck up.

They put some quirky spring bullshit into their switches which apparently makes them 10 times better than anything. I haven't tried them to know. Also they actually pay attention to debounce latency.

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And to give you an idea of the market, pic related is the kind of shit manufacturers are putting out nowadays.

So obviously there's a gap for the competitive gaming community that Logitech (and DM, Nixeus, FM...) are eager to fill.

>please Logitech. Make a MX518/G400 successor
Oh, my sweet summer child, did you not hear?
This is it.

so this new logitech mouse use some fancy switches that are better?

better how?

i need a new mouse and i might actually consider buying it if it has good switches