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What are the main differences between using a GNU/Linux distribution and using a GNU/Hurd distribution?
I've heard Debian (the one I use) also supports Hurd, but I really don't know what this changes and what it doesn't, from both a technical and a user point of view
Dylan Murphy
One works in real life, one doesn't.
Connor Clark
>implying GNU has only one kernel
Lucas Phillips
Which one? Nevermind, I know is the one with microkernel.
Jack Jenkins
Oh yeah, they stole one and called it their own as well.
Hunter Reyes
Okay, okay, can we ease it on the funposting about kernels please.
Put up your friendly stands and wait for the newbies.
Ryan Cooper
Different filesystem and different init. Drivers are loaded separately from the as to not needing to restart to make changes.
Brody Martinez
*Drivers are loaded separately from the kernel
Connor Barnes
My favorite characters were Rose's bewbs.
Chase Evans
>HiStar is a new operating system designed to minimize the amount of trusted code in a system. scs.stanford.edu/histar/ >The Muen Separation Kernel is the world’s first Open Source microkernel that has been formally proven to contain no runtime errors at the source code level muen.sk/ >LUnix is an operationg system primarly for the good old Commodore64 home-computer. lng.sourceforge.net/
All of them GPL
Henry King
GNU never claimed that Linux is theirs.
Levi Anderson
>minimize the amount of trusted code in a system WTF? So is it not trusted? Should I not trust it?
Ayden Walker
neither works in real life
you have to go with a Linux distribution to get anywhere
stay far away from anything with GNU/ in its name
Nathan Campbell
...
Joshua Stewart
Is Brainfuck scheduler worth it or just a meme?
And what are some other essential desktop 'responsiveness' enhancements?
Matthew Bell
go to bed stallman steal credit for someone elses operating system
Logan Adams
>lunix kek
Benjamin Wood
>>>/winfag/
John Ross
Im getting screen tearing on native ubuntu. What DE should i try if i didnt like kde. I want a clean and pretty ui, customization is a plus.
Camden Martinez
Bspwm
Luis Cruz
GNOME
David Thomas
How do we Make GNOME (and GTK+) Great Again?
They are both a fucking mess right now, and most customisation issues (popular polling answer for GNOME3 was lack of customisation options) could be fixed relatively easily
Nicholas Gray
Get rid of the current team who hates theming and is mostly concerned with the "brand"
Aaron Bell
>How do we Make GNOME (and GTK+) Great Again? port gnome2/mate to qt5 aka, port the best version of gnome to a sensible toolkit (or at least fork/maintain gtk2)
gnome devs have gone mad
Robert Nelson
>HURD will never be completed I swear I'll be the person to complete it, if anyone does.
Luis Wood
A lot of people use file browsers that either: a) do not have a preview panel b) do not use a visual GUI that preview images inside of the browser
How do these people EVER manage to organise their porn?
Luis Flores
I have been away for a few months what is this GNU/Hurd shit I use internet user
Parker Taylor
It's pretty hard to do that with 2D because of the sheer amount of individual images you wish to return to.
Ryan Robinson
Literally the most popular poll answer was lack of customisation after GNOME3 was released. The obvious fix is merging gnome-tweak-tool and dconf-editor into the actual GNOME settings, along with a slight restructuring of the GNOME settings. This is literally fuckin it. GNOME devs are just fucking retarded and are killing GNOME aswell as GTK+ with this attitude. I fucking hate it
Hudson Clark
GNU Hurd (without /) is GNU's official main kernel, its a (multi-server) microkernel in contrast to the monolithic linux or linux-libre. It was started before linux was, but it has yet to reach production maturity. Once its finished it could be nice, but thats gonna take a while, if it will ever be finished
Jordan Torres
So whenever I try installing Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS with my GTX 1060, nouveau freaks out and I lose connection to my monitor. I assume that it just doesn't support Pascal very well since it just came out. Is there a way I can use my integrated graphics and install the proprietary NVIDIA drivers?
Landon King
Ah thanks Stallman
Nicholas Cruz
I just installed Debian Testing in a VM so I can learn a bit about Linux.
However, I have an old computer, and it runs mostly like shit. Are there any scripts (or lists) floating around which will allow me to remove unneeded crap?
I'm enjoying it so far..and hell, I even got Screenfetch installed and running.
Jason Rodriguez
install gentoo
or Arch
Josiah Brown
Both sound like a hassle to install.
Gentoo needs to compile everything I install, and on my shitbox it will take a whole fucking day.
Arch sounds better, but again, I value ease of installation. I might try it, but will it run decently, provided I use the same VM settings I used for Debian?
Jaxson Johnson
It may have been started before, but development basically stopped until ~5years ago.
Dominic Edwards
With a file manager. And not just that, I also use my file manager to upload things by dragging them onto websites.
Cameron Thomas
Porn is degenerate anyway.
Joshua Richardson
You're in a VM so it's gonna be slow. Gentoo is a meme but Arch is worth a try, you have nothing to lose.
Gabriel Ortiz
Don't listen to him, if you can't cross compile gentoo would be a hassle and arch is needlessly bloated. Debian is fine. You made a mistake however, the debian testing iso is a beta version of the installer, the usual way is to install debian stable minimally and then upgrade to testing or sid. Just telling you for next time. Removing unneeded crap is done via a package manager, meaning dpkg, but you should not use it directly. You have 2 choices, either you use aptitude or apt-get, read the wiki articles on both and decide. I personally prefer aptitude. During the expert installer you can choose to install only the drivers for your current hardware and can choose how minimal you want your system. It looks like your computer would be able to run a window manager like dwm or tinywm okay. Have fun.
Chase Allen
So what's going on with MATE? I just installed arch on my desktop and set up MATE, and when I went to grab the mate-menu package, it is flipping shit over the mate panel vs mare gtk3 panel.
Brody Walker
Whoa, thanks man.
I'm also enjoying the font rendering a lot, it looks amazing out of the box compared to XP.
Jordan Sullivan
I like arch more than I like Debian. Ive been using Debian for the last week on my desktop and if I had no experience with similar issues on arch, I would be lost.
Debian documentation is not the best. I also find the way upstream packaged are handled kind of shit. Testing is sometimes just flat out missing a package, which can be frustrating. Unstable can be as the name implies, but still ends up with some weird missing packages..
Listen I love Debian. I really, truly do. But I think it just falls apart. Arch requires a lot of initial config, but issues afterwards are minimal. You also don't get raped by ppas. It was just stupid issues everywhere that made me realize I've never had a problem like this on arch.
MEMES aside, arch is a good distro. But if you want easy config, go with an Ubuntu flavor. Arch also has antegros.
Juan Allen
How can i resize my root partition then add more GB to my home partition on Fedora 23?
Luis Ward
OSX sierra wont support my computer. I'm gonna get apricity OS. Yay!
Gabriel Anderson
You are better off installing Fedora, Xubntu or Debian, then getting a cool icon & shell theme.
Not that a mac fag knows how to do any of that
Dylan Bennett
well, the current development almost exclusively is based on mach, which in itself is considered outdated. all development on L4 derivatives has been stopped aswell because the developer is occupied with other work
i dont think the hurd with mach will be a success just because of performance reasons
Adrian Wright
You can get it even better by making a .fonts.conf in your home directory (~) and putting something like on the debian wikis fonts article in there.
Evan Walker
>using ppas There's your problem, git gud and compile yourself. Checkinstall is a think.
Caleb Gray
how can i run TP-Link TL-WN823N wireless adapter
note: i use parabola
Matthew Peterson
I'm running Mint 18 and I want to turn off intel power boost. I use this script
>echo "1" | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/no_turbo 1
But after restarting my Laptop powerboost is always turned back on. How can I make this change permanent?
Levi Butler
yesterday I resized my linux partition from 30 to 60GB. The file manager (pcmanfm) still tells me I have only 30GB though. Gparted shows that the partition is correctly resized. What do I have to do to actually increase the usable space for my system? Or is it usable already and pcmanfm just displays it incorrectly?
Brayden Collins
getting kernel panic at my manjaro installation: kernel panic: not syncing : vfs : unable to mount root
heres the output of lsblk, on my Ubuntu install on sdc2:
sdc 8:32 0 223,6G 0 disk ├─sdc1 8:33 0 7,6G 0 part [SWAP] ├─sdc2 8:34 0 108G 0 part / └─sdc3 8:35 0 108G 0 part /mnt/manjaro_installation
sdc3 is my manjaro install directory, do you have any ideas ?
also how to I make a "clean" grub config, on both installations ?
Oliver Johnson
first off, you don't necessarily need `tee` to do that `echo "1" >> filename` appends to the file, `echo "1" > filename` replaces the content of the file.
If you want to make it permanent, you either find out, what file gets loaded on boot to overwrite your file (try looking for the file's manpage for instance) or you just put the change you want to be permanent in the script that runs whenever you start a shell (~/.bashrc if your shell is bash) maybe fuck with the permissions of the file a bit so you don't have to enter your password every time you launch a shell.
Charles Flores
had a similar problem while installing GuixSD in a VBox. GuixSD offers USB-install downloads only, no ISO so you have to convert the raw file to a VHD. If you finally want to install you will get an error saying you dont have enough disk space. If you extend the VHD, fdisk will not see any of that, with another tool you can resize the partition, but then you cannot extend the filesystem because its already mounted and its not umountable because its beeing used
guix IRC couldnt help either, either im stupid or this is faulty for VBox
Levi Jackson
are you using the grub installed by ubuntu or manjaro? apparently manjaro can only be booted from the grub installed by manjaro because the devs made some stupid changes to it...
Joshua Fisher
you may have resized the partition, but did you remember to resize the filesystem that is on the partition?
Julian Davis
currently using the grub from my ubuntu installation but both linux installs have a grub on their own.
you know if its going to take longer than 20 min to fix I'd rather just put a vm up
also >because the devs made some stupid changes to it.
seems like manjaro summed up in one sentence
Jaxon Williams
no I didn't. I guess I'll do that, I just expected the system to do that automatically. Thanks for the hint
Angel Martinez
some programs will/can do both operations at once
Adrian Adams
Sup Forums,
Going back to University soon and I want to quit video games for life, not like Microsoft hasn't been annoying me lately anyway. Decided to convert full time.
I want to learn and eventually switch to Arch or Gentoo (only because they get shilled here a lot, I'm sure I'll be able to evaluate my situation better once I dive deeper into it).
Q: As a nearly-complete beginner, where do I start, Debian or Ubuntu? I'll trust you, /fglt/.
Robert Parker
debian but use the nonfree installer
Michael Myers
alright, i've been using lubuntu and mint for quite sometime and i think it's time to move to arch what DE should i use? i'd like to have a pretty desktop also, does anyone have a nice guide to installation?
I can confirm you have to use grub provided with manjaro. You might be able to boot from a manjaro live cd and run a update-grub and fix it.
Colton Gray
What's the difference between KeePass and KeePass X other than the first one uses .NET?
Carson Murphy
Does anyone know if there is a linux program which can be used to capture video streams from websites? GetFLV in Windows 10 works for me, but I don't want to switch back. I want to stay in linux.
Liam Gutierrez
What do you do if you have only one partition, and cannot umount the fs because youre using it (running system)?
Dominic White
VLC should be able to do it, view the stream and record it with VLC, pretty dirty, but prolly will work
im sure there is a better application for that but thats the first thing that came to mind
Cameron Brown
some filesystems can be resized while mounted (such as BTRFS) otherwise you'll need to boot into another system so you can resize it while unmounted
Carter Gray
you chroot with a live disk
Angel Lewis
chrooting is detrimental to what he's trying to do, as that would require mounting
Alexander Lopez
You're correct, sorry. I meant booting in to a live disk an doing it there. Should probably have coffee before posting here...
John Green
What is a good DE I used xfce previously and I loved it but I want to change it Currently on lxqt and it's okay but I don't like it.
Julian Wilson
Debian, it's stable and you can use backports or the testing repositories if you want new packages.
How is Debian/Ubuntu able to blank the root password and lock it during install?
Colton Parker
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux. I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Easton Green
Reminder we have two threads on /t/ - Torrents, last call to ask for reseeds!
Training videos for GNU/Linux (torrents) Ported videogames (torrents) We need a thread on /vg/ for gaymers because year of the GNU/Linux desktop motherfuckers, here is the pasta pastebin.com/7Xzi8e2H
Joshua Gutierrez
Does anybody have an ascii Stallman? I want to put him in my interjection script.
Nathaniel Carter
i think im just too retarded to understand the guixsd installation in a VM
Thanks, but I don't think that is going to work, because the url doesn't end with the video file name. :/
Someone mentioned rtmdump, anyone know anything about that?
Alexander Cook
It plays in mpv so vlc should be able to as well. This is pretty much what vlc was designed for.
Brody Nelson
Does anyone have the link about ricing that used to be posted in desktop threads?
I'm going to try Ubuntu. Latest non-LTS version. I understand sudo apt-get install ___. What do I need to put in the blank to install g++ and vim? Anything else I'd need to start basic C++ development?
Bentley Edwards
It's probably just g++ and vim although you can search stuff with apt-cache search ____ And you'll probably need GNU make too since it'll be tedious running g++ in the shell.
Matthew Bailey
I want to buy a new laptop and then install Linux on it. Is there a list of laptops out there that are guaranteed to run Linux with no problems?
literally one of the first results in $search_engine for "linux compatibility list"
Eli Perry
/tpg/
Landon Miller
the ricing link is terribly outdated, if you want it you can look on the Sup Forums wiki in the sticky though. also desktop threads still exist on . as for g++ and vim: just apt search like the other user said, actually vim might be installed already, see if it's there.
David Sullivan
First off, you cant redirect text output to files owned by root without sudo (hence the tee).
