What's wrong with systemd Sup Forums?
What's wrong with systemd Sup Forums?
Jason Martinez
Dylan Morales
systemdeez nuts!
HAH
gottem, gottem
Jaxson Murphy
Literally nothing, people are just autistic fucks. It does slightly more than an init system needs to but it's a great and user friendly init system, something linux has really been lacking in.
>inb4 muh unix philosophy
Luis Fisher
If it focused on doing what it should, nothing.
But it's doing way too much unrelated bullshit and it's infecting all the software working with it.
I have to admit I'm using some of the DBus signals it sends in my own software, thus making it not work on systems without SystemD.
Ryder Price
>systems without SystemD
So ancient installs and gentoo?
Benjamin Torres
The term you are looking for is, The Systemd OS.
Evan Jackson
BSDs and other POSIX compliant systems.
Jonathan Hernandez
Xavier Harris
Nothing is wrong with it.
The people that hate it are just pissed off that they didn't make something better than sysv first.
Jack Russell
GRATATA
Logan Martinez
There's little wrong with systemd other than it works in a way is incompatible with the unix way and is more intrusive when compared to othere systems.
But it works in the way it was designed for what it was meant to do (and then some).
Blake Allen
There's nothing wrong with SystemV init. systemd was pushed solely due to politics and Poettercuck's scheming rather than on merit. It's objectively bad and the few things it improves are vastly outweighed by all it does wrong.
It's either the "embrace, extend, extinguish" method being applied to Linux, or RedHat trying to get an iron grip on the whole (if possible) ecosystem, or both.
Ryder Perry
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Nolan Jackson
I never said there was anything wrong with SysV its just old and systemd is faster, better supported, more modular, and has easier to use tools for everything.
Grayson Robinson
>"its just old"
>it's old therefore it must go reeee
The human species is "old" too, should we all kill ourselves because of that?
Jeremiah Jenkins
Nothing wrong with upgrading. Don't get so pissy switching from SysV isn't like suicide.
Jose Garcia
>There's nothing wrong with SystemV init
user, do you know why we need busybox in ramdisk ?
Brody Perez
lennart has no fucking clue what he is doing, check link 2 posts up. He makes excuses for things he does not understand and makes this require systemd or they dont function
Easton Brown
Problem is that systemd isn't objectively good, it's as simple as that. Look at 's links for some good argumentation (but I suspect you just want to believe that choosing systemd is the right thing to do and don't want to be confronted with information proving the contrary).
Carter Rogers
No I understand the argument and I realize that Poettering is a fucking inflexible dickhead that refuses to fix systemd.
I'm saying in spite of that its still way way way better than systemv.
Charles Williams
No, why
Carson Allen
Because you don't have systemd with a rescue shell.
Parker Gonzalez
Because sysv init doesn't work during early boot.
But the busybox init aren't perfect either.
eg, when mounting disk:
You'll need busybox to wait for disk ready (by "sleep"-ing) and hopefully when sleep timeout, disk will be ready.
It's unreliable and you'll need to increase the sleep value manually if you use slow usb disk.
Systemd work-around by using hook.
load module -> device init -> device ready -> trigger systemd service.
Jack Mitchell
devuan
Ayden Davis
guzentight