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Ubuntu Cinnamon/Systemd/Wayland master race reporting in :^)
Anthony Richardson
I want to switch to gentoo/linkek, but all the ubuntu flavors I tried (xfce, kde, unity, gnome) look ugly as piss. Are there any ok looking Distros that aren't buggy?
Jonathan Johnson
Why can't I boot netinstall Debian from usb stick on an old Asus netbook? It stuck after the boot screen only "_" blinking what the fuck linux...
Logan Howard
Themes are distro independant and finding your favourite theme is a DIY thing
Go install Ubuntu mini
Sebastian Garcia
>Go install Ubuntu mini I don't want Ubuntu though.
Parker Rivera
I have an AMD 6750M in a MacBook Pro 15 Late 2011 (I know). I want to learn how to do more than surf the Internet and pirate music, so I'm getting my feet wet with GNOME Desktop on Ubuntu 16.04 (like real noob, still working on understanding apt and repositories). Here's my dilemma:
In order to boot past a blank purple screen, I had to edit /boot/grub/custom.cfg to include this bit which I just found randomly when googling:
Previously, I was booting in recovery mode and typing this in every time.
Anyway, this solution still seems like a bandaid just to get things running. (I have also looked into flgrx, but cant seem to get that working) I'm unable to use dual monitors currently, and i think it's a symptom of my issue. What can I do to make my OS play nice with AMD?
tl;dr Please help make 2011 MacBook AMD shit work with Ubuntu 16.04
Jackson Butler
Have you tried other distros or is it Ubuntu problem only? Normally you don't have to mess with grub unless you are dualbooting or anything in Macs
Brayden Carter
Just saying.
Ryder Butler
You generated quite a wonderful meme there
Dominic Martinez
Shills like you and make a lot of memes yourselves.
Go shill and harass people somewhere else. If people don't want systemd, suck it.
Jordan Powell
>If people don't want systemd What if they do?
Joseph Moore
Guys is $200 a good deal on an used UX21e?
Mason Reyes
I am Tell me 1 (ONE) good reason why I should bother with a different init than the one I am using
Grayson Reed
I am this guy again. The shilling and harassment from sytemd trolls has to stop.
We don't trust RedHat devs to have good intentions and don't want to use systemd. Yet we suffer from trolls like This cancer is breaking the community.
You are baiting, you won't stop. I've seen how threads are derailed because of trolls like you.
Don't bother on writing back, I won't reply.
Nolan Martin
What trolls? Some newcomer installs Ubuntu and has to remove systemd just because some NEET online told him to?
>baiting I am genuinely curious. You are not going to reply because you don't have a proper reason to give
Lincoln Jones
Why does he have to justify it to you for his opinion to be valid?
Parker Sullivan
>he I*
Since you are the one who claimed, the burden of proof is onto you
Jace Johnson
from a user perspective, you don't really notice the difference between systemd and any other init system. systemd is a complete mess crammed into pid 1, however. this is pretty bad if you're not a desktop user who might be able to suck it up if the whole system crashes, but a server sysadmin, where money is at stake if your init crashes and fucks the uptime.
I don't blame you for using systemd, since most distros come with it preinstalled and changing init systems is a pain in the arse unless you REALLY know what you're doing. It sucks that it's so widespread though.
Dominic Sanchez
is it possible to dd only system files and exclude everything else?
Alexander James
>didn't notice new IP
Jaxson Young
Any good read / book / online about security in Linux ?
Jeremiah Roberts
>from a user perspective, you don't really notice the difference between systemd and any other init system. Good start >systemd is a complete mess crammed into pid 1, however. >this is pretty bad if you're not a desktop user I am a desktop user, I run Linux exclusively. I don't run windows >if your init crashes Other inits are crash proof? >I don't blame you for using systemd, since most distros come with it preinstalled and changing init systems is a pain in the arse unless you REALLY know what you're doing. Nice that we agree in some points
I know the trick too
Joseph Flores
>I know the trick too Sure bud. Whoever you think I am the point remains.
Jaxson Collins
Just posting to say pic fukken saved
Alexander Hill
Ever since I switched to manjaro I've had ridicioulous fan noise even though my cpu isn't even warm. How do I fix this?
Levi Parker
More info needed. kernel, DE, hardware etc.
Alexander Price
post inxi -Fz (make sure you installed recommended packages)
>Other inits are crash proof? they're not, but systemd is really huge compared to other init systems, one reason being the feature creep of the project. All kinds of things beside the init system are in pid 1 too if you use systemd, that means if any of these programs crashes, all of them do. Bugs can't be completely prevented on any init system, but inviting a whole load of other software into your pid is just asking for trouble.
Luke Flores
Sorry to detract from you problem, just curious... Is that up to date? I'm using kubuntu 16.04 with backports and I have plasma 5.6.5.
Have you llooked on arch/debian/gentoo wikis for you graphics card? There is a kernel line option called dpm (dynamic power management, I think) which solved fan problems with radeon but that was implemented by default in kernel 3.12 or something. You could try it manually though to see if it helps, maybe there is a regression somewhere.
Ian Perry
So after realizing I wanted to back to arch, I decided to give antergros a try.
Honestly, this isn't too shabby of an installer. It comes out with a little more packages than I would like to believe it requires (784 with MATE), but everything just comes out of the box "werking" which is surprising to me. Even ubuntu distros usually require a little tweaking.
I think the only things I dislike are a)comes with a little extra bloat and b) the atergros branding shit everywhere, but I'm sure i'll handle those over time.
Dominic Bailey
why does apt-get upgrade take 30 seconds to execute but apt-get dist-upgrade is running for over an hour now?
Elijah Cox
Because they are different processes?
Landon Butler
It was supposed to download couple of updates for the new distro i installed but it looks like it's downloading and installing literally the entire internet
This is one of the things i hate about linux all i wanted to do was to fix the apt-get install -y linux-headers-$(uname -r) so it would work, and then after two hours of googling and countless fixes i am still no closer to a solution (and that is not even the main problem that is just the step one so i can fix the main problem i have which requires apt-get install -y linux-headers-$(uname -r) to work)
in windows i literally just click the installer and boom done. It works just like that. God this is so frustrating.
Lincoln Long
Apt-get update = updating your lists for new packages, apt-get upgrade = upgrading packages and apt-get dist-upgrade is to upgrade kernel+base system packages
James Watson
any slackware users here? its wikipedia article states that dependencies are resolved by the user. is that as annoying as it sounds?
David Morris
I thought it meant distance-update Why the fuck isn't it name distro-update, that is terribly misleading parameter naming policy
Anthony Barnes
>distance-update What on earth would you expect that to do? What is the original issue though? I don't understand what you're trying to do. >in windows i literally just click the installer and boom done. It works just like that. That's how it works in linux too. You're trying to do something slightly unusual so it's a bit silly comparing to Window updating, you could lhave done the same thing with a GUI package manager.
Christopher Carter
I need to install guest additions from the virtual box and to do it i need to do apt-get install -y linux-headers-$(uname -r) and sh VBoxLinuxAdditions.run
but when i run the first one it does this Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-.. E: Couldn't find any package by regex '..
I tried fucking everyting, updating the soruces file, running every command i could googled (like apt-get update, apt-get upgrade etc) where this issue was mentioned and fucking nothing works So then i tried apt-get dist-upgrade and now it's almost two hours and the terminal is hard at work But i doubt that will work either
Benjamin Green
>But i doubt that will work either No it won't. I don't know the reason for that command not working, works here in kubuntu but just search for which linux-headers packages you have available and then just install it by name. Shouldn't it already have linux-headers installed though? How did you install a kernel without the headers? Which distro is this anyway?
Juan Rodriguez
What do you get running 'uname -r' in a terminal?
Robert Foster
/fglt/ approved Linux distributions.
Void
Exherbo
Funtoo
Devuan
If you want systemd then Gentoo and Debian are ok.
Ubuntu and Manjaro are the best beginner distros
Lincoln Edwards
Stop posting this meme, it will never gain traction.
Parker Ward
It werked for you? Both the live CD and the installer were buggy pieces of shit. The installer kept stopping at the installation stage so I just gave up.
Brayden Wright
Distro name and version number
Parker Miller
show the output
Gavin Campbell
If i understand it correctly it searches for a file linux-headers-somehing.pae and it is not found so let's say i donwload it manually, how do i install the file manually?
Caleb Gonzalez
B-but i thought this was a friendly thread
Lincoln Johnson
I'll ask again here, how 'tedious' is it to set up and maintain slackware? I can follow instructions just fine and fix up the occasional errors you'd get when something breaks, but I really don't want to spend 2-3 hours on something like trying to get my wireless card to work (and fail at it) like when I tried gentoo. I'm still trying out various distros myself to see what I like rather than rely on someone's shitposting, but it's getting tiresome in some cases
Julian Kelly
Please stop and look back at the advice you were given, you are going to bork your system.
Elijah Green
how often do you reinstall distro?
Leo Brooks
When it is necessary. Not very often.
Brody Gomez
never
Benjamin Clark
>I am a desktop user, I run Linux exclusively. I don't run windows and this is why this arguing is nothing more than shitposting. You don't care what init system you use and that's it, stop fucking posting "LOL SYSTEMD 4 LYFE, NAME A BETTER ALTERNATIVE, WHY WOULD I EVER USE ANYTHING ELSE". The other side as equally guilty, but neither refuses to stop posting this shit every single day
Adrian Hughes
lucky you, the installer never worked for me, didn't even want to start at times
Easton Young
Never unless I absolutely have to.
My desktop with Arch has gone for two years without an update due to me just not using it, so that's likely going to get nuked if I don't redo it from scratch.
Ryder Russell
Bluetooth problem on fresh install of Debian Stable
Turned on bluetooth using "systemctl start bluetooth" Then proceeded bluetoothctl power on >No default controller available
Help gentoomen
Colton Smith
>debian found your problem
Parker Harris
Helpful and friendly How do you do it?
Juan Powell
Is Linux genuinely buggy or is it just my PC?
>install Ubuntu >some weird bug happens during installing my drivers >can't open the settings anymore o-okay
>install Mint >it works nicely >after waking the PC up from screensaver mode, the upper part of the monitor is vibrating >don't even know where to begin to fix it why
>install KDE Neon >bugs, crashes, text unreadable, more bugs, I swear even Win 98 was more stable
Can I consider myself having fallen for the Linux meme? I want this torment to end /fglt/
Camden Cook
how do i get rid off kernel panic after the update?
Jayden Harris
How can the mouse speed be lowered on opensuse running kde?
The default speed with acceleration off is hard to get used to
Levi Bailey
>all ubuntu-based found your problem
Brandon Gomez
Those are friendly recommendations.
Eli Ross
if ubuntu is so great then why did kali, the most demanding and professional distro, switched to debian?
Tyler Baker
I had that problem too. I only got it to work by using a GUI installer from my arch top.
Regardless, I just uninstalled it and reinstalled arch myself manually. I think it's a cool system when it works, but I don't like a system where there are a bunch of things I didn't put there myself.
Josiah Allen
So you borked your system? Try booting in to the previous kernel. If you shared some information it would make it a lot easier to help you.
But when I try to emerge chocolate-doom it says there are no ebuilds to satisfy it. Is there more to do when adding an overlay in layman?
Gabriel Russell
It's not, but newfags think so.
Henry Diaz
>but I don't like a system where there are a bunch of things I didn't put there myself.
It sounds like you subscribe to The Arch Way! Way to go!
Arch is YOUR system. It doesn't do anything unless YOU tell it to :)
Nathaniel Robinson
Are you okay?
Mason Morales
Wasn't layman deprecated ages ago?
Austin Gutierrez
Hahahaha. B8/8 m8
Isaiah Powell
That’s possible, but I’m too retarded to figure out how to compile from Git.
Joseph Lewis
>Arch is YOUR system. It doesn't do anything unless YOU tell it to :) What a retarded statement. No system does anything unless you tell it to, that's one of the basic characteristics of computing.
Nicholas Morris
In arch, how do I get my local time to read off of the system time? I went and changed my bios clock to the actual time so Windows would stop shitting the bed, but I actually can't figure out which command sets local time to read off of bios time.
Mason Long
Guy who travels a lot and does presentations asked me about security. He keeps most of his stuff in usb sticks and some of the data should never be leaked. He does not have admin rights on most of the computers he uses.
I said you should encrypt everything, look into veracrypt or at least use p7zip.
1. Connecting to wifi normally, it doesn't let you enter a password for some reason. You have to use a command to properly connect to wifi. See the ~3 month old issue here: github.com/Antergos/Cnchi/issues/326
2. Same as what said, the installer was generally buggy (sometimes a page would be blank until I paged back and forth), and it got stuck with a blank screen during the primary installation, after I chose all my settings.
I'm sure it's great when your hardware happens to be compatible, and when you're lucky enough to not run into shitty bugs that fundamentally keep you from even installing the distro. Antergos is dirty mexican trash.
Kayden Gutierrez
is openwrt.org down? i keep timing out during update
Mason Edwards
Are there any desktop environments that make it VERY easy to adjust color schemes? I want ot be able to tweak the colors for everything with EASE - title bars, task bar, font color, even the color of highlighting words.
Also - tiling WM for daily use computer: yes or no
Thanks
Nicholas Bell
>Also - tiling WM for daily use computer: yes or no Why don't you try and find out if it's for you?
Samuel Powell
No fuck you. No gui. No X. Black background. Green terminal text. This is the only way.
Nicholas Gray
Literally why?
Logan Ross
MATE does, but they are busy porting it to GTK3. I'm using it right now, but they haven't fixed their color picker yet.
Gnome Color Picker or whatever works though. So any GTK based DE will let you use that I imagine.
Josiah Moore
Tried i3 briefly. I think a tiling WM is the right choice for me, but I'm not ultra-skilled at tech stuff, so I wanted to ask for opinions. If the consensus was "no, it's more suitable for X usage" than I would stick with normal WM and save some time and effort.
Henry Lewis
How can i run multiple applications from a terminal without windows? Like let's say i start one and it's running and i need to start another one while the first one is still running.
Austin Ross
open a new tab.
I know xfce, MATE, and KDE all support tabbed terminal emulators.
Jacob Green
>the installer was generally buggy (sometimes a page would be blank until I paged back and forth), and it got stuck with a blank screen during the primary installation, after I chose all my settings.
exactly my experience
Are you on a Thinkpad?
Brayden Sanders
Er what I mean to say is that the default terminal they use supports tabs.
Owen Rogers
No, a Toshiba Satellite C55-C5246. But I do want a Thinkpad.
Matthew Turner
Put it in background with & Or use a terminal multiplexer like tmux (recommended)
Carter Rivera
So I have arch going and all is comfy and well, so now I want to move on to where I am weakest - fonts.
I don't wanna miss out on all those Japanese characters and any symbols that commonly apepar around, so what do I need to install?
Do I just go into the arch wiki and install a font family from every category of language they list? I hear infinality has a bundled font package floating about too.
Gabriel Reed
>wants Japanese characters >doesn't know Japanese >Arch
fucking lol
Grayson Rodriguez
you start them in the background by putting '&' after the command
