Hit pacman -Syu

>hit pacman -Syu
>everything still working after reboot

Why are you suprised? I'm doing it frequently and nothing happens.

>hit "Install Updates"
>no "something went wrong" error message

I've been using arch for over a year and my system never broke, was this ever really a thing?

this

This is a Japanese game developer.

Isn' she just a character designer?

You forget check your connection.

It used to brake but not anymore.
Using it for about 2 years only minor stuff break from time to time...
Most of the time I lever them broken and they get fixed in following updates

Just yesterday I updated an Antergos install that I hadn't touched in at least a month. Two hundred and fifty one updates total, pacman didn't even break a sweat. If this were a few years ago, I would have just assumed it was going to break.

>2016
>arch and arch-based distros don't break after a package update
>debian does

Is this the future we wanted?

she's just a character designer
this is a japanese game dev

Is that X shaped hair clip an anime trend or do Japanese girls do it in real life? I've never seen anyone do it.

Imagine a rolling distro such as Arch. As long as you are rolling with the updates, you will just use the regular linux packaging system that unpacks the package contents straight into /usr/ without any inter-package encapsulation.

Now imagine that a package breaks. If you kept the previous version in the local cache, you can just roll back to a previous version and freeze the package. This. however, may effectively freeze a whole lot of other packages through dependencies. In addition, if you didn't keep the package cached, you are now fucked.

What I propose is using self-contained snappy-like format for the distribution of archived old packages. If you needed to downgrade, you would just install a self-contained package and install it without freezing other packages through dependencies.

Whether or not this is better than just using the snappy-like packages everywhere is up to debate. I think it is, because it keeps the common case (rolling with the distro) consistent with the current practice and introduces App-Armor encapsulation and related faggotry only when you need to keep legacy packages around.

jap are well known for retarted hairclips

A-Are you mocking my waifu?

>shatter a bottle of beer on motherboard during install
>panic induced hour in the shower
>starts two days later

I want to protect her smile.

I use apt, but i've heard of this whole pacman -Syu thing

what does the command do? Why is it considered dangerous? What does it break?

It breaks when you haven't updated in a long time.

Same here

its obviously a meme created by some cancerous Ubuntu user

...

>mfw you'll eventually get bored of her and dump her for a one with more radiant smile than the previous one and the personality with the quirks that strike you deeper

it always happens

Actually I sympathize with remfags.

>snaps
I don't understand how this works. Don't you ultimately, end up with a shitload of bloat? Like, say you install 3 packages and they all have a few common dependencies, won't you be hogging up disk space with these redundant packages?

PSA: UPDATE TO LIBEFL AVAILABLE.

I will run upgrade again in 5 minutes to check for new packages and keep you all updates unless I finally blow my brains out for using this shitty OS.

Define "long time"

A package has been updated more than once since the last update.

WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST FUCKING SAY ABOUT HAIRCLIPS YOU LITTLE SHIT?

Fucking normie heretic waifu-swaping sluts.
I bet your parents got divorced and remarried like twice too.

I've done this more than once and never broke the system

> Don't you ultimately, end up with a shitload of bloat?
You currently do, although:

> Ubuntu is currently working on “deduplication” support, which means duplicate
> copies of files won’t be kept—if two Snappy packages include the same
> library, it will only be stored in one place on disk.

I still think that the additional complexity in terms of being able to
understand, manage, and debug your system will suck, though, and that it would
be better to use snappy just for legacy packages.

It's "update all packages" for pacman. Nothing spectacular.

Yeah, I'll stick with traditional methods, this really seems pointless unless you're a developer.

actually they divorced and never remarried

> unless you are a developer,

Well, you don't need to be a developer to face an "I froze a bugged package and now I can't update half of the rest of my packages," situation. The only prerequisite is that you use a rolling distro. The encapsulation provided by snaps is neat in such a scenario.

Same and I've used it for years too.
Only time something ever broke it was the bluetooth interface (blueman) and I fixed with a simple package downgrade (2 ~ 3 simple commands)

I update every 3 months and mines never broke

I had infinality break on me once, and x wouldn't start until I uninstalled it. That's the only problem I've had in 5 years though.

Yes, not very frequent, but it happens from time to time.

Btw, sometimes only the desktop, some programs or libraries are affected, and not because of Arch.

It's really weird.
I even had fedora break after an update, but never had problems with arch.

>I had infinality break
The gpg key thing, right? That got me once too. Boohoomil or whatever he's called, was asleep at the wheel.

Mostly happens because people would Syu without checking the arch news posts first to see if something would break. Most of the time it's posted if there's a major change or a change that will break something unless you do something, and usually it's nothing that's that big of a deal.

Japanese game developers are amazing.

Been using GNU/Linux since 1995

Arch is the best distribution I have ever used

why don't asians have buttocks?

>chinese cartoon fan is surprised not everything he sees on Sup Forums is true.

2003 here Pops, same story.

me on the right

evolution
would be counter intuitive for the species if the dudes with little dicks got with girls with big asses
so most asian girls have little asses to accommodate

>Pops

I am 35

Yes. I've been using Arch for like 10 years and shit used to break all the time because driver support would keep changing every other update. I only stuck with it to feel like a l33t h4xx0r.

These days it's pretty stable though and I haven't had any problems in years.

i've never had anything break desu. it always just werk'd better than debian for me......

>>hit pacman -Syu
Madman

How come Asian girls have no tits either? It's a lose lose with them

Flat is justice!
No ass is unforgivable, though.

search 'hitomi tanaka' in your favourite porn site

what Linux needs is a centralized repo for every relevant distro out there.

Imagine the same source of packages for everyone, 3 repos like Debian, stable (for servers or conservative people), testing (for powerusers), unstable (for insane motherfuckers and developers).

A centralized body control made by Corporations and people from the community.

It would solve most problems in Linux fragmentation and it will make it more powerful, the Project Canterbury Joke was funny and sad at the same time.

in your mind using unstable is literally flipping a coin each time you turn on your computer to see if it works right?

I fucking hate this show but Umiko makes my dick so goddamn hard.

nope, it just that unless you really love to fix your system every other day because an update broke your OS, it isn' t worth the time.

if you need to work, you need something stable that doesn' t break (or at least it doesn't break too often).

This is the correct answer, someone got an inferiority complex and tries to spread FUD because it lack arguments.

Honestly i've been using arch for years and i've never need to reinstall, i just have cloned the installation to different machines over the years and it works perfectly. While technically it can happen it's very rare for something to fail with an update, the worst it can happen is that maybe a program could change a lot from one to other major versions but this is why exists other distros that provides "stable" versions during a long time like ubuntu LTS.

Once, I was using an obscure application in Wine, and when Wine updated, that application would not work anymore, so I downgraded. That is the extent to which pacman -Syu has negatively affected my system.

anyone knows why pic related happen from time to time ?

Be friend of mine
>decide to run antergos because wanted a rolling release and frustrated with fedora and opensuse but wanted the batteries included
>zfs
>do a system update, things seem fine
>decide to try i3, install it and doesn't load up right
>reboot
>no kernel headers for zfs
> 'Bailing out, you are on your own now. Good luck.'
>have shell at rootfs
>cant modprobe zfs since there's no ko for it

I have never seen that before. Arch has always been pretty stable for me. He doesn't even use the aur to try to avoid issues. I helped him save his files and he's going to get rid of zfs and reinstall instead of trying to fix it.

>zfs
If it ain't broke dont fix it. Ext4 for life

They moved the package outside of core. Nothing special.

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>hit pacman -Syu
>ALSA audio breaks in FF
>downgrade to alsa-lib-1.1.1-1
>audio werks again
I think you're lying OP. I'm not the only one with this problem right now.

Sorry user but she's only interested in white, blonde lolis.

>haven't updated in 4 months
>eix-sync && emerge -uDU --with-bdeps=y @world
>everything works, even better than before
>all the packages emerge fine
>a bug I was encountering emerging certian ports has been fixed and no longer happens
>my bug reports must have finally been addressed

based gentoo

b-but I am a white blonde loli!

Yes, Rem is a cliche waifu and Re:Zero is one of the biggest piles of trash to exist.

No unstable is just rolling the dice every time you install a package, because it'll either work fine, break your entire system, or won't be able to install because of a missing dependency

>use Arch
>stick to official repositories and never touch AUR
>never have a problem

I'm running a netbook on Arch since way before the update which introduced systemd. I've gone for as long as not updating for a whole year. I've never had a problem with breaking stuff through updating – maybe because I actually read release notes?

>arch devs forget to recompile something
>not arch's fault

People who used the catalyst driver for AMD had their X sessions break every time the kernel or xorg updated. But it's no longer used.

I used a program I think called prelink where a serious bug made my system unbootable. Fortunately someone posted a fix on the forum.

The migration to systemd probably broke the systems of people who didn't check the news for how to migrate. You're expected to check the news before you update because of cases like this.

this mostly

Also if you use arch for only light stuff and don't have too many programs more than likely nothing will happen. Start getting larger programs or want some bleeding edge, better prepare for war.

Basically this.
You start added extra repos and use unmaintained software made by idiots and shit will start breaking.

Yes.

8 years ago when stability was shit

THIS

Won't work. If it will, all relevant distros will merge into one, since the package manager is the main difference by this point. The other differences between them would also disappear naturally, since if they aren't similar, you can't install the same kind of package on all of them (except for snap-like "I will make my own file tree in your home" approach).
Also, you would either have to make a perfect package manager that everybody agrees is the best thing ever so that they drop their own PMs in shame, or the distros will say you're a faggot who doesn't understand what their distro users want since you cut out all the most important features out of this thing they're supposed to be using, so go fuck yourself (which I predict will happen with snap and flatpak as a unified standard, except maybe for proprietary shit and legacy packages).
Also, distros like Gentoo (because of compilation+USE+legacy) and Arch (unless the PM also fits their idea of simple, and AUR dies somehow) wouldn't even move a finger, not even mentioning stuff like Slackware and nixOS, though you could argue about how relevant power-user distros are. Still, it's already not everyone using the same system.
What Linux would benefit from, though, would be the ability to install packages in your home or in your system interchangably. Obviously, not everything will work like that, but stuff like firefox and libreoffice shoudn't need root rights to be installed anyway. Especially if system uses the traditional layout, and home uses a nixOS-like system with a predefined (maybe configurable) directory, which could be put on a separate partition. You could also make it a right admin can defy to the user, if you really don't want them to install programs themselves too. I don't see any way in which it would not make everything better.
Oh, also, I literally have no idea what disadvantages "distro fragmentation" brings. Why exactly is it wrong to have multiples distros? Genuinely curious.