Can we just sit down and discuss the pros and cons of Windows vs Linux?

Can we just sit down and discuss the pros and cons of Windows vs Linux?

Sup Forums can be reasonable, yes?

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Well there are no pros with Linux other than it being free

lincux sucks because there's no private software and all gui solutions suck in their own way
windows sucks because the gui part is disjointed too and there are many small usability/architecture fallacies

we could... but its already been done desu

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Related.. ive spent about three days trying to diagnose a problem with a linux virtual machine I use to host my websites and it dropping network connectivity, it seems like its putting the virtual network adapter to sleep or something or its going to sleep and linux is not preventing it. Anyways im now using a windows guest which dosent exhibit this problem. Now im getting fucking drunk because its been a shitty three days fucking around with this shit.

Linux is literally making me an alcoholic, add that to the fucking list.

Diet ginger beer and vodka while I watch mr robot episode.

yeah, Linux Rules,

and

Windows drools and sucks

This is why Sup Forums can't be reasonable, because it's full of paid Microsoft shills that jump all over GNU because they're a bunch of buttmad fucks that hate that their shitty OS is dying because of an open, free, superior OS.

Sup Forums has no reason to use anything other than GNU or *BSD. None.

Fuck off Linux shill.

I spent 3 days trying to fix it bitch, 3 fucking days. Using windows was a last resort. And its only the guest anyway I banished windows from my server 3 years ago and have used linux since.

On opensuse leap right now. Opensuse was a pile of fuck that barely worked until leap came out, im all over this shit now, underrated distro desu

then learn to use the tools you need for the job

if windows does the trick for you then hooray who cares, but don't blame on the system that you're retarded

Sup Forums should be renamed to /dunningkruger/

>windows (10)
+ easy to hack, great for people who often forget their passwords
- pre-installed with full of craps
- slow to start and shutdown even after clean install
- no developer friendly
>linux
+ fast and very efficient on laptops
+ developer friendly
- too many choices for sane people

To be 100% honest. After using Linux for a while, the only benefit Windows has over it is games.

Which is why I have a desktop gaming rig (Windows) and a laptop (Linux) for everything else.

There exist no better setup.

Windows has become increasingly difficult to manage in my enterprise environment and we've been testing out some RHEL clients with a lot of success.

Ultimately, we have around 10,000 thin clients that we've virtualized via NOVA (KVM-QEMU) in OpenStack. As more of the applications we use in the medical environment transition to HTML5 interfaces, we're able to replace our current Windows 7 VMs with RHEL.

Thoughts on this? Anybody else in a similar situation?

I don't hate Windows... Linux clients have just because far easier to administer.

Daily reminder that with plebdows 10, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT

Microsoft is part of NSA's mass surveillance program "PRISM":
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Microsoft informs the NSA about bugs before fixing them:
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Microsoft openly offeres cloud data to support PRISM:
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Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption:
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Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input,
location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history,
even after related settings are turned off:
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Micrcrosoft automatically downloads Windows 10 on PCs running
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users have not opted-in:
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Windows 10 scans for illegal/pirated software:
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Microsoft proudly presents surveillance statistics:
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> Over 82 billion photos viewed.
> Gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games.
> 44.5 billion minutes/month spent in Microsoft Edge.
> Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
> Windows 10 now active on over 200 million devices.

marketshare

why are you this retarded?

>Shill
>For a largely free set of OSes

you know, autistic retards like you who thinks that you are sooooo special for using lonix is the main reason why people associate lonix with autism and stay away from it

i heard it's 95% big corporations. Linux shills confirmed?

Any real proof on all that information? Because seems RT journalists tier saying a pile of air,nothing personal i'm using Debian right now but i'm curious who the hell believe all that info.

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>Any real proof on all that information?
ikr

liek where r ur transitional fossils atheists?

windows
>+lots of software that simply isn't on linux, especially games
>+will more or less completely work with any hardware that it came with
>+industry standard in many areas
>-prone to malware
>-microsoft tightening their grip on Windows 10

linux
>+free in both beer and freedom
>+can be as lightweight as you like
>+can make it however you want it to be
>-doesn't support some hardware, or doesn't support it as well
>-lots of windows-exclusive software not available for it

Umm, the virtual machine going to sleep can be fixed by simple editing the config for sleep.

Thus turning off screen saver and other power saving options.

Fuck, if I want to fix this issue it would take me 40mins to find what I need to edit. It it not the fault of Linux that you thought a server OS can require no education. Linux systems don't stay online for 5+ years by simple using a GUI to enable Apache.

Windows
>Pros: vast software library and software support, from hardware vendors included
>Cons: Microsoft

Linux:
>Pros: free, open, highly customizable
>Cons: restricted software library, limited support from hardware vendors, entire desktop/GUI side nowhere near as mature and usable

Not him but I would stay away just for the risk that it's true due to how microsoft has done shady stuff and manipulated consumers and making sure they continue to be a monopoly time after time.

Linux has flaws but it's way more comfy for everything except games. Plasma also feels more innovative, fast and efficient than windows 10's interface.

When it comes to games there's a noticeable difference on linux when it comes to the games running. First time setup for steam games does not exist in linux and game compatibility is future proof. There are games i can't run in windows anymore (i.e. Disciples: sacred lands, kotor) but they run flawlessly in wine.

>windows
>>+lots of software that simply isn't on linux, especially games
Programmed for profit mostly
>>+will more or less completely work with any hardware that it came with
After a company pays Microsoft to slap a sticker on their products
>>+industry standard in many areas
When you are king of the desktops that is true. However server wise it is redhat/google who creates standards for servers.
>>-prone to malware
Prone to worse hacking malware because of popularity and reverse engineering simplicity.
>>-microsoft tightening their grip on Windows 10
Simply giving away window 10 while allowing their business to spy on users of different ages. Network activity is higher then all previous windows version.

>linux
>>+free in both beer and freedom
>>+can be as lightweight as you like
>>+can make it however you want it to be
Fucked up by those who refuse to be educated on stability processes. Installing just any package is retarded. Lightweight does not mean good code.
>>-doesn't support some hardware, or doesn't support it as well
Support more then Unix, only redhat and some Suse operations are having pay for support for hardware vendors. Unlike Microsoft where they really do not write code to support rare hardware.
>>-lots of windows-exclusive software not available for it
>>>A lot of rare programs are there for Linux. Most of the most advance electronic controllers are available for Linux but not Windows. This includes robotic programs.

Guys... Mac OS is Linux you know?
Best OS ever

Can we sit down and discuss the specific technology behind paid trumphumpers viral marketing on all boards of Sup Forums?

MacOS? really?
I never knew guys could fuck a big dildo while allowing shit to fall onto their keyboard.

I hope you wash your keyboard after that.

ITT

>Muh Mint
>Muh GUI

>tools

literally what tools?

I used dmesg, I sifted through the tomcat logs, I fucked around in the UEFI, I changed various settings in virtualbox. It was fucked. Unsolveable.

I even asked reddit... they were helpful. Still couldnt fucking solve it though.

Sure

Im not a complete fucking idiot user. No the virtual machine wasent going to sleep.

The virtual network adapter SEEMED to be going to sleep. i.e. it exhibited symptoms that indicated it went to sleep or something. At least thats how I can best describe it.

I would lose access to my websites after a few minutes. If I went to the VM and tried visiting a webpage, say anandtech.com it would load for a very long time but then the webpage would come up. And my own websites would be accessible again. Until it broke again.

It seemed like some kind of sleep setting but I wasent sure.

The only reason to still use Windows is if you need compatibility with MS Office users and video games.

Linux is free. Linux has a better update system. Better privacy. And the creators don't fuck with the users.

To add: if you don't have an existing video games collection you now have the means to build a pretty decent one through Steam.

>Windows
pretty much the only reason to use it is because of software support.
otherwise it's bloated and offers no real advantage over Linux.

>Linux
- Lightweight
- Free (freedom and beer)
- Stable
- Even desktops have insane uptime
- deeply configurable (can form organizational standard images)
- centralized management of applications through repositories for better package management
- central repos mean applications/services on the system are patched easier and faster (nobody wants to have to patch when they open up an application they have not used in a while. So they skip it to get work done).
- can be used by the industry as a backed to form their product without reinventing the wheel.

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>Bernie Sanders

Barf!

>Im not a complete fucking idiot user
you're really not making it seem that way... how do you fuck up a web server this bad?

>gentoo
>not gentoo

Can we sit down and discuss the pros and cons of Botnets vs Linux? Can Sup Forums be reasonable?

why do people run just one operating system or have just one computer again?

i use my linux workstation to do podcasting, video chats in hangouts,
drawing porn with my wacom tablet in krita, streaming on youtube, inking in incsape,
shopping shit in gimp and the usual surfing and using libre office shit just as you probably could on windows,
but without the driver madness or random usb disconnects and data loss.

i do work as a developer and without the gnu toolset, git, vim, perf,
gdb/rr and all the other console goodness i would have quit a long time ago.
the terminal has become most of what i do and i like it just fine, after having
been a slave to visual studio and windows forms apps earlier in my life. i would never go
back to that shit. even android studio and related shit disgust me, because they copy
this pattern and iam so happy that as a senior developer i am trusted to solve backend/server problems
and don't work on user facing shit anymore. (also the pay is sooooo much better)

linux does exactly what i want out of computing in the best possible way
and i know exactly what my machine does an why. thats what i allways wanted

i also have a coworker that does djing with linux and a friend whos job it is to port an engine to vulkan for android/linux.

its not for everyone, especially not for kids. and thats what i like about it.

also one more important thing:
most developers that build solutions using linux are 10 times more likely to be not bullshitting you and being honest.
one of the things i noticed once i left the windows software world to a mac shop and then to a linux shop was the
no-bullshit and you can wear-a-tshirt-here atmosphere. that was so refreshing that i got my happiness in life back

i don't know about other developers but quitting microsoft professionally was like a long journey to reach happiness for me
and it worked.

Windows
>Pros
Gaymes
Software that is not found on Linux
Driver support for jewish vendors that refuse to release documentation for Linux (Broadcom)
>Cons
Spying
Slow as shit
Malware everywhere
Most software is awful
NTFS is shit tier
etc

Linux
>Pros
All pros of Windows provided you use PCI passthrough in a VM
Not inherently a piece of shit
Better software
It just werks (TM)
Doesn't spy on you
Does exactly what you want it to do and nothing more
Supports hardware long after it has been dropped in Windows
>Cons
Harder to use than Windows
Not many gaymes or gaymur gear native

Some Linux distros are a significantly better desktop experience than Windows except for one CRITICAL flaw.

COMPATIBILITY

An OS is useless if it cant run the software you want.

>VM

does linux can be install on any pc?

At a certain point the question is like asking a fish and a bird which is better air or water?

After windows being silly i decided to give linux another go. Installing graphics drivers caused it to kick me back to the login screen after every attempt to log in. Ended up just going back to windows. Was pleasantly surprised my audio interface worked out of the box at least.

>doesn't know what pci passthrough is

why are you even on a technology board?

linux can does be installed on any pc, good user

Not all of us are pedophiles.

And this is the problem. Instead of admitting possible flaws in your wet dream os, you blame the user every single time. But if someone posts about a Windows issue?
>lel Windows is the problem
You're all so fucking delusional it hurts.

your anecdote means nothing though, I've been working with linux and unix since the 90s and never had anything that was a serious headache to fix. Meanwhile windows was consistently a nightmare to administrate. The problem is probably just you to be honest, don't deny it. You made a mistake somewhere, or an error, or misconfigured something because you are a newbie, and thats okay.

Go back to your toy botnet OS you have no control over, Windoze fag

Windoze fag

It's a shame because the only reason Windoze is better for games is because Microsoft bullies and monopolised the market with DirectX

I've had several packages tell me they couldn't install because they needed another package installed, but the package was installed. I've had several make errors with almost no explanation. If i were more experienced i might know how to solve them, but countless google searches yeilded no results.

If i install windows, i can install any program with a few clicks, and if i need something else it will tell me. I've never had windows flat out deny an installation, I've never had a problem opening a program that couldn't be solved with a 5 minute search.

Linux is great, I've got it configured exactly the way i need. But it's not user friendly, it's not intuitive, and it's not worth the learning curve for most people. I know you'll all say that's the point or whatever, but it's pretty obvious why it's not the dominant os.

Not an argument

What a way to tell those Windoze fags

Nope, it's a descendant of UNIX. Whereas Linux is a UNIX clone

Games because Microsoft monopolised and bullied the market with DirectX, you uneducated Windoze fag

>itvisionDOTaltervista.orgSLASHwhy.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html
Dumb wincucks, every fucking time

I can't be reasonable towards Windoze delusionists. Microsoft have monopolised and bullied the market with DirectX. The reason games aren't on GNU/Linux. Same story with M$ Office, dictated document standards

>windows is dying

What sort of mental gymnastics do you have to employ to convince yourself of this?

>he spells it wrong like it means something

I bet you call Trump as Drumpf as well?

VirtualBox poorfag detected.

Totally feel the same way. Wish most people could see post the Microsoft bullshit

Most of that software is on Windoze because of monopolistic bullying bullshit from Microsoft. Just look at the DirectX story

>When you are king of the desktops that is true. However server wise it is redhat/google who creates standards for servers.

This fucking meme needs to die. Linux is strong for web hosting and infrastructure. Active Directory and Exchange are still needed and there are no viable alternatives unless you develop something in house.

If Microsoft die, Windoze die. Linux will only die when developers die

>Most of that software is on Windoze because of monopolistic bullying bullshit from Microsoft.

Offering the development kit for free instead of charging outlandish amounts of money for it is so bullyish

Total bullshit again from a Microsoft pleb

Something has to give sooner or later. Microsoft is alienating a lot of admins this Windows 10 bullshit. Who's going to step up? Google? Apple?

Not an argument.

MUH GAYMZ

>that hate that their shitty OS is dying because of an open, free, superior OS

Apple has a larger desktop market share than Linux. Linux is not a threat to Windows.

>NTFS is shit tier

Coming from someone who thinks BTRFS is good.

> Mac OS
>>> Linux
olol

>>>>> Best OS ever
HA HA HA, OH WOW

Primarily I use Linux. It's fast, configurable and does exactly what you told it to do. The command line interface is really comfortable at times.

However, for software compatibility issues I use a windows VM. Due to the recent microsoft spying fiasco I run windows XP in seamless mode.

Of course, the windows virtual machine is granted no internet access. It only serves the purpose of running a select few softwares.

Go back to your unusable hobbyist OS

>If you think the purpose of this article is to show that "nothing ever works in Linux or Linux is barely usable", you are wrong, please close this page.
>If you think I'm here to promote Windows or Mac OS, please close this page.
>If you think I'm here to spread lies or FUD about Linux, please close this page immediately and never ever come back. What are you doing here anyway? Please go back to flame wars and defamations.
"Sup Forums pls go"

I tried vmware as well. It was a bitch to install compared to virtualbox. Same issue was present.

>And this is the problem. Instead of admitting possible flaws in your wet dream os, you blame the user every single time.

Yes because if you have a Problem with linux you can just fix it if you know what your doing.

>If i install windows, i can install any program with a few clicks, and if i need something else it will tell me. I've never had windows flat out deny an installation, I've never had a problem opening a program that couldn't be solved with a 5 minute search.
Except there were and still are problems and errors that take all day to solve but you just forget because you've been using windows for a really long time now and you're used to it, and don't say no because at this time you use mostly the same programs you've been using all your life and you know exactly how to fix them that's why it takes just "5 minutes"

just fucking kill yourslef