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Lincoln Flores
>sister's old T430si from uni running slow as shit >install Mint on it >much more responsive >only thing she doesn't have is some old games, but she barely plays them anymore
God bless Linux for saving old hardware.
Thank you for bringing back memories of Meet'n'Fuck.
Charles Thomas
thats the arch logo retard
Brayden Walker
15th for ubuntu
Eli Torres
1st for social justice XDDD
Leo James
holy shit guys what the fuck you told me to install arch but nothing works fuck you
Anthony Nguyen
the madman actually did it L O L
on a serious note, what broke
Aiden Stewart
>newbie >installs Arch
Joseph Rodriguez
no, yes, yes, yes
Logan Ramirez
Neither Arch nor its derivatives are for beginners.
Andrew Kelly
>falling for the arch meme >listening to Sup Forums Get a real distro.
do you think if you post it enough it will come true?
Kevin Scott
THICCCCC
Charles Harris
Did u fix the bug? :DD
Benjamin Rivera
can someone post the arch logo but it's a fat man i just need a cheer up
James Lewis
Sorry, women are no sex objects
Bentley Howard
what's the fastest update method/package manager.
dnf and apt-get seem about the same to me except dnf some some dump reason has to redraw the repos three times after a clean all for upgrade, search and info
Arch is for beginners who want to learn Linux and CLI. It has no other real uses.
Noah Lopez
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Liam Jones
this also works thank you
John Torres
>Arch is for beginners Yeah, the person he replied to sure fell for your FUD
Alexander Adams
it obviously is, see: all the edgy kids using it and asking in this thread for help like >/fglt/ how do i install screenfetch? Im using arch if it matters xD
Ethan Stewart
godsend user may nice things happen in your life
Jordan Powell
>>/fglt/ how do i install screenfetch? Im using arch if it matters xD I know for a fact that you are the one posted that
Nicholas Rodriguez
whore
Aiden Barnes
>Mozilla >Debian What next, Sup Forums?
Tyler Taylor
guyzz how can I install atom? using debian if that matters XDDDDD
pic related, it's me 0.0
Nathaniel King
Oh i forgot the pic :DDD XPXPXP
Wyatt Reed
Why aren't you using Wayland? Do you really like wierd video artifacts and god-awful animation performance? Don't you like having gestures for your touchpad and a responsive touchscreen? These things are not just for Apple products, ya know?
Jeremiah Rivera
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Carson Phillips
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Gabriel Edwards
1. Wyalnd requires systemd, which is large, ineficient, and a security risk. 2. X with an OpenGL compositor is just as good 3. If you have wayland, you are still going to have to run 90% of your programs on X through Xwayland.
>Why aren't you using Wayland? is there an equivalent for openbox+tint2 yet? >Do you really like wierd video artifacts and god-awful animation performance? i don't use a compositor, i don't want my windows to "animate" >Don't you like having gestures for your touchpad keyboard shortcuts are faster and more accurate >and a responsive touchscreen? >touching your screen
Carson Stewart
>Why aren't you using Wayland? 1. Clipboard doesn't work 2. Screenshooter doesn't work 3. I don't like GNOME
Fuck off SJW
David Sanders
What DE / WM are you running?
Brayden Foster
Is just me or are these threads getting shitter and shitter?
Dylan Morris
I'm running headless and was planning on just forwarding x11.
It worked with geany. Only two packages. Anyone have a notepad like program that doesn't have a million dependencies? I would use nano/vim, but I kinda like being able to copy with ctrl+a and ctrl+c
Jeremiah Martinez
notepadqq
Luke Cooper
it's probably like 1-3 people fighting
Joshua Scott
lmao, I'm new to GNU/Linux but I have had no problems whatsoever with Arch, neither installaton nor using it. You guys shilling against it are seriously mentally impaired
Wyatt Rogers
Apparently not available on debian. I'm checking out leafpad atm
Aaron Allen
lmao, I'm new to GNU/Linux but I have had no problems whatsoever with Gentoo, neither installaton nor using it. You guys shilling against it are seriously mentally impaired
Brody Harris
Just Debian shills, ignore >Debian Why do you have to use stupid disros like debian? Get ubuntu or antergos. These have the MOST software supports
Thomas Mitchell
gentoo is arguably tougher but the Arch installation takes less than an hour...
Luke Cox
>1. Wyalnd requires systemd, which is large, ineficient, and a security risk. Incorrect, systemd is objectively good.
2. X with an OpenGL compositor is just as good Also extremely incorrect, there is so much overhead with X that it's much less efficient performance wise than Wayland
>3. If you have wayland, you are still going to have to run 90% of your programs on X through Xwayland.
Like with anything in Linux, it all depends on what apps you choose to use. I'm sticking within the Gnome walled garden and so far none of my applications need to use X. I was using Chromium until I realized I'd be better off with Epiphany.
is there an equivalent for openbox+tint2 yet?
Isn't openbox dead on the development side?
Austin Stewart
I'm assuming that >Debian is for me?
I need a stable OS for my server.
Pic related would be 2 months, but I don't have a UPS. Was really mad when it happened
Jose Powell
>debian >hundred of bloat dependancies No wonder
See
Christian Turner
Ubuntu on server Arch on desktop
Connor Sanchez
Arch is more bloated than Debian since Debian does package splitting but Arch throws everything into a single package.
Enjoy your bloat.
Ayden Phillips
That didn't help, apperently. See and picture
BTFO
Jack Watson
>ubuntu on server lmao no Although that terminal is looking pretty good. How'd you get that?
Gavin Perry
>Incorrect, systemd is objectively good. See attached picture. >Also extremely incorrect, there is so much overhead with X that it's much less efficient performance wise than Wayland Maybe wayland is more efficient, but what I meant was that X with an opengl compositor is just as smooth and responsive as wayland. Also the overhead isn't that high, embedded devices can run X easily. And their are some implemetations of X that run on arduinos. >Like with anything in Linux, it all depends on what apps you choose to use. I'm sticking within the Gnome walled garden and so far none of my applications need to use X. I was using Chromium until I realized I'd be better off with Epiphany. But then you have a limited selection of programs and are stuck in an ecosystem. That's even worse than Mac OSX because atleast there you have some alternatives to the default apps.
Cooper Anderson
Your picture clearly shows that you don't understand the basics of package management. Also:
>It has never been a minimalist distribution. Splitting packages is rare >compared to other distributions, and dependencies aren't made optional >whenever possible.
>Arch has *never* been minimalist... a Linux kernel with every module >available and every feature enabled at least when there's no non-bloat >related cost, feature-packed/complex GNU tools, nearly all optional >features enabled across all the packages, etc.
>Community memes don't define the distribution, technical choices by the >developers do. It's clearly not based on what you say it is, and *never* >has been. It has always used significantly more disk space and a >measurable amount of additional memory than Debian and especially Gentoo >as a consequence of keeping things simple (again, from a development >perspective).
>dep >sug git gud just copy his colours into literally any terminal emulator.
Luke Phillips
What are his colors brah?
Samuel Williams
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Matthew Parker
ask gcolour2, not me
Michael Hill
>Your picture clearly shows that you don't understand the basics of package management. Cool blog, where do I subscribe? SJW mailing list?
>count dep: >40+
Jackson Martinez
>cuck'd by the own devs topkek
Ethan Moore
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Adrian Smith
Pic is pure conjecture, source is still open for anyone to view >evidence discard
>but what I meant was that X with an opengl compositor is just as smooth I'm sure you know objectively it isn't but if you think that the average person wouldn't notice a difference in subjective experience, I suggest you actually use Wayland and see for yourself.
>But then you have a limited selection of programs and are stuck in an ecosystem. This is an issue but that's an issue just for now, eventually Wayland will be standard for everything being actively developed, I'm just hopping on the bleeding edge stop and enjoying it now. And really, Gnome 3's applications are quite nice.
Daniel Brooks
>>>count dep: + package splitting is a thing
Jayden Ramirez
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Nolan Clark
you're all shitting on Arch just like in every /fglt/ but, seriously, tell me which other distro I should use if I want bleeding edge software > *buntu way too much preinstalled shit (including proprietary amazon software) had massive trouble exchanging the DE in the past > gentoo tough to install and set up correctly afaik don't know about its package manager... > debian testing > antergos might give those a try, unsure about cutting edge software though
Ayden Davis
>tough to install and set up correctly afaik Shits easier to setup than Arch.
First off, systemd is not an init system, it has an init system as part of the systemd suite. systemd is a project to build a standardised lowlevel userland for Linux. The project is pretty comprehensive and it delivers a lot of functionality under one umbrella. It does away with a lot of older, often undermaintained software packages, which were traditionally used to assemble a low level userland.
Which is where the contention comes from, as a system suite systemd is restrictive for Unix virtuosi who are used to tailor a system with wit, ingenuity, a lick and a prayer and a couple dozen of unrelated packages. systemd makes such knowledge useless.
The faction that thinks that systemd is Linux's Hiroshima, finds all the added functionality bloat, unnecessary and dangerous, as it is all under development in one project.
All the systemd jokes stem from the comprehensiveness as a low level system suite. People against it love to joke that one day systemd will write its own kernel.
There is a lot of FUD and hate going around. Some arguments do have merit, a lot of eggs in one basket is certainly true, but as with all things in life, it depends which tradeoff you prefer. Do you want a suite of well designed software, working closely together, so that system management is streamlined or do you want the complete freedom to tailor your own low level system with a lot of time tested, interchangeable components.
I have no desire to be a low level system designer, so I prefer systemd. I don't hate traditional init systems though. If a Linux system has one and I need to work with it, I'm still happy it boots and starts the necessary services.
Jaxon Jenkins
sid = garbage
Joshua Butler
>Pic is pure conjecture, source is still open for anyone to view Yeah but you don't think it's suspicious that a company with strong ties to the US government is trying to push systemd after the NSA failed to put backdoors in the kernel. Also there no reason why wayland should be systemd dependent, while X can run with or without systemd. >I suggest you actually use Wayland and see for yourself. But I have tried wayland a couple of weeks ago and It wasn't any different than my non-wayland KDE desktop, except my X programs had no compositing and teared like fuck. >eventually Wayland will be standard for everything being actively developed, No it won't because there are already so many programs developed in X and wont port over to wayland because X is fine. Also wayland still has many bugs to iron out, and wont run on other architechtures besides x86_64. Wayland will be dead as soon as the devolpers realize that no one will port their applications to Wayland.
Ethan Price
>way too much preinstalled shit ubuntu minimal
Blake Perry
Debian package reposiory is bloated.
I wish KDE Neon were Fedora based
Camden Young
Debian is very lightweight. Stop spreading bullshit. Learn what package splitting is, and read what the developers say rather than believing Sup Forums memes.
