Everywhere you look you keep hearing about the latest 2-4k laptop turds with low-power overheating CPUs and GPUs.
On most modern laptops, you can't: >upgrade the CPU >upgrade the GPU >upgrade the RAM >sustain high clock frequencies above ~2-2.5 Ghz on the CPU when doing intensive tasks like video encoding >upgrade the display >easily clean out all the dust that accumulates in your heatsink
The only thing they really have going for them is portability but Android phones have pretty much replaced most of the functions you used to use laptops for desu.
It just seems more logical to have some flagship phone and a desktop at home. This is coming from someone who will sell his 15" 2013 macbook pro and assemble an i5 6600K + Rx 480 micro-ATX desktop build.
>On most modern laptops Don't you mean on most laptops? It's hardly exclusive to modern ones.
Gavin Nguyen
Go outside.
Daniel Harris
thing of it this way most people dont need rx480 most people dont to intensive tasks most people dont need to upgrade their screens cpu or gpu youre saying these people shouldnt buy pcs at all? and do everything on their phones?
Gabriel Carter
just depends on the person, if you need to use word or excel on the go using your phone is a shit option, if all you do on the go is browse and text then you can probably get away with no laptop
for the average non gamer person just having a normal laptop alone with no tower is probably the best idea
Juan Gray
>>The only thing they really have going for them is portability but Android phones have pretty much replaced most of the functions you used to use laptops for desu >touch screen keyboard >no desktop programs >small screen
Oliver Rogers
laptops aren't meant to be upgraded.
buy sturdy laptop refurbished for 300 bucks, ride it til it dies or is too obsolete, rinse repeat
I've had 3 laptops in the last decade, never been too behind the curve to notice (don't play games) and have spent less than 1000 dollars total on them
Eli Foster
That doesn't apply to x30 and lower Thinkpads.
It's one of the reasons why Sup Forumsentoomen like them.
Brandon Williams
>On most modern laptops, you can't: >>upgrade the GPU >>upgrade the RAM >>sustain high clock frequencies above ~2-2.5 Ghz on the CPU when doing intensive tasks like video encoding >>upgrade the display >>easily clean out all the dust that accumulates in your heatsink
Name one era when you could do this on most laptops.
Ian Cooper
See , The x20/x30 T and W-series can do all of those.
Jackson Morales
Sup Forumsaymen like them because they're built like tanks and cheap enough for their broke asses to afford I don't think upgradeability matters when any unupgraded modern laptop is better than the most upgraded x30,
Hunter Jenkins
I forgot to delete "upgrade the ram", most laptops can do this even today. Those are a few models, far from being "most laptops". Also see
Xavier Robinson
Did you fell for the ultrabook meme or something? NORMAL notebooks have swappable eDP displays, RAM and HDD at the very least(I personally never encountered the ones with upgradeable CPU but they probably exist in some gaymen ones). Throttling is hit or miss. Mine can sustain furmark+prime95 on stock frequencies, with sometimes turbo boosting.
Ryder Foster
Most people should be able to just dock their phones and use it as a PC on a traditional monitor, yes.
Hudson Wood
I have a gaming laptop. It's default clock speed is 2.6GHz, boosts up to 3.6GHz. I can upgrade the ram, display, clean out the dust
If you're buying crap hardware you're the only one to blame.
Thomas Taylor
*meant see He said name an era, i named the era of those laptops.
Well true nowadays doesn't matter much but it's possible and on their era it was fucking great, there's also the "running 3 drives at the same time" thing.
Also as a fun fact you can slap a 2760qm on the old t420 and get like 66-70% or so of the 6770hq performance which is supposedly the best laptop cpu nowadays. Of course it's not viable for extended workloads but it's possible.
Nolan Scott
OP was complaining that "most modern laptops" don't allow to do that stuff, I asked to name an era when such a thing was allowed by most laptops. The truth is, it was never allowed by most laptops, just a few select ones. Best thing to do is to buy milspec laptops though, those are expandable and easy to clean. Also what do you mean by "extended workloads"?
Joshua Brown
yes
Joseph Howard
Also wasn't the GPU integrated on X30s?
Caleb Richardson
>gaming laptop >don't buy crap hardware >implying
Jace Bailey
>Also what do you mean by "extended workloads"? Well that, running the cpu at full speed continuously for an extended period of time.
Using a quad core CPU on a t420 with cooler designed for a dual core CPU will lead to heat and throttling issues. The T/W5xx shipped with quad core CPUs and adequate coolers though iirc.
Some had iGPU or iGPU with nVidia dGPU but it's upgradable via ExpressCard, you can shove a desktop gpu there.
Adam Cox
Dunno about laptops but "gaymen" CPUs and CPUs are the cream of the crop - only the silicon lottery winners can be overclocked to any meaningful degree.
Sebastian Torres
>gaymen >cpu user...
Joshua Thomas
Yes, you're implying I bought crap hardware. Amazing. What if I told you, you're completely wrong and your head is so far up your ass you fail to realize what progress is?
Parker Reed
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Owen Hall
Sorry, I don't speak memes.
Kayden Martin
Maybe that's more of a place for you, user. I'm not the one memeing like crazy right now.
Jeremiah Bennett
> gayman laptops >>> good The man with the Precision laughs.
Josiah Bell
Don't you think it's really time to stop with the memes, user? You're not impressing anyone
Caleb Carter
Thats not even the same user.
Charles Powell
and Tesla Roadster can't reach 202 kmph normally. wtf i hate tech now. Stock up TP X220.
Gavin Thompson
Great, then we have more than one tech-illiterate person on the board.
Caleb Edwards
>Desktop at home
you're stuck at a desk and all you get in return is manchild gaymes and some other useless multimedia shit? Desktops are for work. If i'm not doing serious CAD I don't want your fucking gaymer tower.
>laptop at home Real OS usable keyboard usable screen portable
Jack Morgan
>upgrade the CPU >upgrade the GPU >upgrade the RAM >sustain high clock frequencies above ~2-2.5 Ghz on the CPU when doing intensive tasks like video encoding >upgrade the display >easily clean out all the dust that accumulates in your heatsink Thinkpads can be upgraded and cleaned, EASILY. /thread
Adam Garcia
If you don't need serious power (for gaming or things like rendering) then the best setup is a laptop and then a docking solution that includes external monitors, keyboard, etc. at home. It's just a no-brainer.
Noah King
>owns a gaymin laptop >calling others tech illiterate
Aiden Martin
If you never travel or have to take your work home or overseas, you're right. Laptops are obsolete.
But I use laptops all the time because I travel, I need to work on the go, and seriously fuck typing on a phone or tablet.
Josiah Sullivan
It's funny because you can do most of these on most laptops during any time period within the past 2 decades, and it's only gotten easier as time has gone by.
William Collins
More people go outside and need portability than the ability to encode videos. Hard to imagine for people with autism spectrum disorder I know. Android phones are not good replacements for normies.
Justin Ross
>Android phones are not good replacements for normies.
Tablets are good enough.
Asher Clark
What's a good bang for buck laptop/chromebook/tablet? Around $200. Use case will be mostly for porn and shitposting in bed.
Grayson Ortiz
It's good for taking notes with a keyboard.
John Bennett
As someone who uses laptops almost exclusively... yes.
Unlike a desktop, they are portable.
Unlike a smartphone or tablet, you can use them to do actual work. The only time a tablet comes close to the productive capabilities of a laptop is when it has an attached keyboard and Windows or Linux installed.
>The only thing they really have going for them is portability but Android phones have pretty much replaced most of the functions you used to use laptops for desu.
Yeah. Nah. Editing documents on a phone sucks. Writing programs on a phone sucks. Many video games on phones... just suck.
>It just seems more logical to have some flagship phone and a desktop at home. This is coming from someone who will sell his 15" 2013 macbook pro and assemble an i5 6600K + Rx 480 micro-ATX desktop build.
I use a laptop and no desktop. Only reason for a stationary computer is when you need an assload of computing power. For gaming, graphic design, some server work maybe, I can see a point. Otherwise, the Core i7 6700HQ in my laptop does a pretty damn good job at most productive tasks I need done.
Gabriel Martinez
>6600k Enjoy your no-gains
Adam Martinez
Writing on phones with big fingers is a bitch, so is posting pictures and watching 10 threads at the same time.
Kayden Wood
> owns a gayman laptop > calls other tech illiterate HA HA HA, OH WOW
Cooper Ramirez
>sustain high clock frequencies above ~2-2.5 Ghz on the CPU when doing intensive tasks like video encoding
speak for yourself homie.
this is in a vaio that's a little over 1/2 inch thick
Alexander Brown
Laptops?
>take up less room >have everything you need incorporated into the device >are portable >can be stuffed into a corner for 20 years and everything still works
They have their cons sure, but we're still going to be using laptops for a looong while yet OP.
Nathaniel Collins
That would be the most practical thing to do, but the average person wouldn't know how to do that. A lot of people don't even know how to use a computer to the extent where manufacturers need to set most things up for people, like preinstalling Windows. Unless manufacturers advertise and sell products to utilize a docking system I doubt it would catch on. They wouldn't though since they would make less money.
Isaac Nelson
I like using a laptop in bed for being lazy w/ skype calls, and also watching anime / downloading / etc. in bed.
Find me a way to do that with a desktop and I'm sold.
Kayden Lee
>for the average non gamer person just having a normal laptop alone with no tower is probably the best idea It's a pointless investment. Most people don't need the mobility of a laptop and they can get the same performance of a laptop for a fraction of the cost with a desktop though.
Jose Sullivan
Source: my ass
Joshua Nelson
0/10 bait
Aaron Ross
>>laptop at home >Real OS >usable keyboard >usable screen >portable
To be fair a mini-itx A8 APU build has those qualities.
Jason Evans
How do I upgrade the GPU on them, you fucking retard?
Jace Lee
OP meant situations where the CPU will remain at or near 100% utilization (like video encoding).
Go run prime95 on your turd and come back crying how it dipped to 2GHz.
Matthew Peterson
>>take up less room >>have everything you need incorporated into the device >>are portable >>can be stuffed into a corner for 20 years and everything still works That's literally what a mini-itx build is.
Colton Hughes
you mean like this?
keep talking like you know something.
Oliver Turner
That's pretty close to 2.5 GHz and you're not showing the frequent times it dips below 2.5 GHz.
Anyway that's still shit especially for gaming. A lot of games can now efficiently use more than 2 threads bow so your overheating FPS would constantly be bottlenecking the GPU.
Also have fun with your laptop CPU dying in a few years from constant overheating.
Brayden Cox
Where to get refurbished laptop and recommendations?
>Raw power >constantly overheating >can't play BF1 at max 1080p settings and get 90-100 FPS
Dylan Collins
I had a breakdown and resubbed but within a week I sobered up and immediately uninstalled.
Right now, it is exclusively Civ 6 and Star Citizen Alpha/beta..
Thomas Morales
Cuz I need to bring it on an airplane.
Luis Jackson
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Jaxon Fisher
Overheating? See pic related. Stays cools as a cucumber when I am in long gaming sessions. You may need to go read some more material on modern computing hardware my friend. Stay mad.
All of that for the same price of a much higher spec PC and a simple notebook with GNU/Linux.
Gaymers are truly retarded.
Nolan Phillips
My friend, this is a simple indulgence for the elite ruling class. A trinket if you will.
Nothing beats a desktop, which I also own.
Henry Reyes
I like moving my computer around the house, connecting it to different displays and speakers. There's also a lot of things that you need to do on the go, but can't do on a phone. Plus they're cheap so there's no real reason not to have all three.
Jace Wilson
>What is Continuum
Owen Myers
What laptop do you have?
Xavier Wilson
>4lbs >not even 6,6lbs >pic related Are you even trying? This bad boy have i5-520M 2.4ghz and turbos to 2.93ghz with 8gb ram and 80gb ssd Do note that this can take some damage and operate at -20 celsius >muh gpu Get EXP GDC for 40€
Brayden Perez
Enjoy your chronic back pain
Matthew Bailey
Expensive gaymen laptops are basically dead/dying. Laptops for casual gaming and browsing the internet are doing okay I think the market is just fully saturated.
Andrew Clark
>millenials don't know old notebooks and even desktop PCs had soldered down ram, cpu, gpu, fpu, and even ROM storage. But everyone was fucking okay with this.
>all these newfags who whine about non-soldered IHS on Intel CPUs probably never seen Core 2 Duo era processors
Grayson Jackson
>On most modern laptops, you can't: >>upgrade the CPU >>upgrade the GPU >>upgrade the RAM >>sustain high clock frequencies above ~2-2.5 Ghz on the CPU when doing intensive tasks like video encoding >>upgrade the display >>easily clean out all the dust that accumulates in your heatsink >pic unrelated
would be pretty good i think. Sounds like something I'd love to try
Jack Jenkins
this will be the case when smartphone manufacturers finally run out of meme functions to sell their new phones
Levi Foster
>>laptop at home >usable keyboard >usable screen lmfao, those are the very reasons I choose a desktop. Full-size keyboard masterrace, external monitor masterrace.
Henry Barnes
>Some had iGPU or iGPU with nVidia dGPU but it's upgradable via ExpressCard, you can shove a desktop gpu there. That's hardly an "upgrade" though, it's more like docking. You're almost turning it into a desktop by doing that.
Michael Nguyen
>Only reason for a stationary computer is when you need an assload of computing power. Or comfort. Using a monitor which you can adjust to the most comfortable position, using a mouse, using a full size keyboard with tall keys are all reasons to prefer a desktop as much as the performance reasons.
Sebastian Gutierrez
This lmfao. My brother does exactly that, and you look at him and he's hunched while using the laptop. He also misplaces his hands, I expect him to develop carpal tunnel syndrome eventually.
Landon Cox
>It's a pointless investment. Most people don't need the mobility of a laptop and they can get the same performance of a laptop for a fraction of the cost with a desktop though. I agree. They end up using its mobility anyways for different reasons, but most of them don't really need it.
Jaxon Bailey
>i5-520M >2016 lmfao this better be ironic shitposting
Lincoln Cruz
i got a desktop and a laptop for school, it's pretty useful for note taking but that's about it. i got a docking station for my laptop to use at home in my office but i'm lacking peripherals for it to be 100% useful, so i might ditch double monitor setup since it's garbage for my neck and use the second monitor for the dock, and i bought another keyboard to use. ill pick up a cheap mouse and use it there too and it should be comfy
Sebastian Rodriguez
>meme functions what did he mean by this?
Noah Price
That is basically turning it into a desktop tho
Jonathan Nguyen
this, lmfao
Lucas Reed
Vr Muh thinness Shitton resolution
Cameron Fisher
Shitton resolution is good for displaying text and VR. And VR is good so you don't need 2k$ dedicated helmet for it. JUst hook toyour PC and good to go
Lincoln Carter
i know lol my desktop is my main computer where i do gaming and retarded shit, my laptop is for important shit like work & school so i carry it around.
Caleb Phillips
Oh, those are truly memes. I thought you were going to bring up stuff like GPS/GLONASS.
Other phone memes I often see: >muh apps >muh finger reader
Exclusive to Android: >muh processor speed >muh ram
My normie friends shit on my Z10 because "it has no apps". When they say this they are talking about shitty stuff like Snapchat filters or similar meme BS. Of the easily available phones the only ones I'd gladly change it for are Q10, Passport and maybe iPhone SE. As for the apps, I have a great SMTP client, capable browser, office suite, PDF reader, whatsapp, waze, mega, winrar, and even some games. It's compatible with most Android apps (although I don't install the ones that require Play Services). It's also quick despite having only a dual-core running at 1.5GHz and 2GB of RAM, because it isn't a resource hog like memedroid. I don't know what else I could need.
Samuel Reed
You don't know how ARM cores work, user.
Grayson Ortiz
fingerprints are for secure payments and gowernmental databases RAM is for bloated web and Ruby """apps"""
Justin Thompson
>You don't know how ARM cores work, user. Nice digits, but what did you mean by that? I was referring to how new androids are all about having 190 cores, one gorillion gigahertz and a terabyte of ram while still being slower than the competition with less powerful processors. I first realized this when the N9 was just out and it was faster than the flagship samsung of the time while offering better multitasking. Nowadays iPhone has the lead on being quick even though Android packs the most powerful hardware.
Hudson Wright
Ram is also for bloated OS like Android is. It simply has too much overhead to do anything with a modest amount of resources.
Isaiah Mitchell
If you can't understand the appeal of laptops then you're probably a NEET who only uses their PC for gaymen.
