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>AMD x86 Zen Blender Benchmarks Surface – Show Equal Performance To A 10-Core Intel Xeon E5

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Does anyone think zen chipset mobos will come in mitx form factor. There should be no reason for it not to right?

Of course they will. mITX is popular for oems.

probably with one of the poorfag chipsets 330 or whatever it's called

They already have am4 specifications out that could potentially be nanoitx. It would be astronomically stupid to not have them also be mini itx

Looking foward to this, can't wait to do a mITX Zen build.

pls be real ;_;

When has a non-server chipset/CPU architecture NOT had an mITX mobo?

Exactly my thought too. Going to try do something in a dan case with a 480 or whatever is equivalent in pricing when zen does release

Honestly hope zen drives intel out of business

a person can dream :^)

>pooinlootech
>moar coars

meant to reply to OP

Too big?

inb4 pic related

that's a cute board

>32 AMD cores
>Barely fasts than 8 Intel cores

B-but Vulkan and DX12 user! They will save AMD! HEY GUYS LOOK AT THIS CHART, INTELFAGS BTFO!!!

"up to 32 cores"

le prove it :^)

INTEL IS DEAD

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CurryTech rumor mill is not a valid source.

blenchmark.com/cpu-benchmarks

has anyone of you fanboys read the article posted as reference ? It doesnt prove shit and even states (opinion of author) that the test was conducted with one of the server processors

it's not the original sauce
blenchmark.com/cpu-benchmarks

>souce
>my ass

t. Pajeet
2 rupees have been deposited into your account

>damage control

Fuck off and go back to

>wccftech

Anyway I've been waiting for a while now for Zen to come out and see how good it is. I've been waiting to upgrade my ivy bridge dual core i3. I know I can just get a used i5 for around $150 but if Zen is good I want to support AMD and help break up the "monopoly" a little.

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also

nice reddit formating :^)

It's stupidly simple to insert fake results in blenchmark.

It's on par with a Xeon E5-2680v2, which is a 10c*2.8GHz Ivy Bridge.

Not exactly earth shattering, but a pretty damn solid sign if it's really just a ~3 GHz Summit Ridge chip.

It definitely is a Summit Ridge chip - the big question is which one ?
An octa-core CPU being released for the desktop market (dreaming about that) or (realistically speaking) a server cpu with more than eight cores ?

Considering the fact that we know the desktop motherboards are available, we know the desktop chip is right around the corner and we haven't heard a peep about any server chips, especially not 32 core ones, this is very likely the desktop chip.

I (pretty clearly I think) meant a single SR chip and not a MCM Naples.

Pretty much all of the media got this wrong, but the single 8 core die itself is called Zeppelin. Similar to how the 4 module Bulldozer and Piledriver dies were called Orochi. Rather its a name for the layout of the die itself.

Summit Ridge is the name of the single die packaged consumer CPU.
The two die MCM Opteron is Snowy Owl
The four die MCM is Naples

Will AMD have anything to counter thunderbolt?

Thunderbolt is a joke until proven otherwise, meant mostly for direct attach storage in overprice trashcan-esque workstations that lack onboard 10+GbE or any other way to get high bandwidth network access.

External GPU enclosures for laptops are joke, since gaming will just be bottlenecked by toaster tier CPUs.

AMD came up with a solution years ago, and its a VESA standard.
DisplayPort has a sub-standard called DockPort.
One DP connector can be host to any number of devices, utilizing the full bandwidth the connection provides. It can also provide 100w of power. This was available long before any USB3.1 devices were in production.


Thunderbolt isn't used because its good. Its used because intel paid Apple to adopt it.

>buzzword for proprietared PCI-E and DisplayPort
why?

>two weeks before zen release
>intel launches a processor twice / thrice as fast at same price without talking about it prior
kek

>Intel Xeon E5 2680 v2
>v2
That's a fucking Ivy Bridge, not Skylake or Broadwell. The Xeon E5-2630 v4 is a Broadwell 10-core clocked at 2.2GHz.
2.2 Motherfucking GHz.
That's it.

Fucking wow.
Amazing, an eight-core Zen clocked at a full GHz more can barely match a 10-core Broadwell
Now watch this
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It's barely on par with a 6-core Broadwell-E.

That is pathetic.

10 * 2.2 GHz = 8 * 2.75 GHz, genius.
If the Zen is clocked anywhere around 3 +/- 0.2 GHz, that's spitting distance to IPC parity, for a CPU with only half the DDR channels.

Nobody expects Zen to outright beat Broadwell, but these results would be much too close for comfort for Intel.

Duh? AM3/+ is too hard to fit on mini ITX, only a single ITX board was made

FM2+ was better but still only a few boards

AM1 is more SoC like Zen will be and it has a ton of ITX stuff

>AM3/+ is too hard to fit on mini ITX, only a single ITX board was made
Correction, the chipset and sufficient power delivery circuitry is really hard to cram on an ITX board.

And Skylake-E releases short afterwards with the much more feature-rich x299 chipset.
Dumbass

That isn't even a problem, its just that board manufacturers never wanted to offer a really expensive AMD board.

Some ASUS intel mITX boards have VRM on a daughter board, and they're 10~ phases for a chip drawing less power than an FX 8350.

> chipset mattering worth a fuck in enterprise when CPUs now getting integrated NICs in addition to PCIe/NVMe lanes

yeah those USB 3.1v2 ports will really be something, huh?

>16 core chip
>as fast as a 10 core chip from 2013
well if power consumption is good and the price is good it might work

If that's the case, there is no way they could match the pricing latest Intel chip. Sell it cheaper,maybe I could buy one.

>now getting integrated NICs in addition to PCIe/NVMe lanes
Not Zen, but Broadwell-D already have integrated 10Gb NICs and PCIe lanes have been around since PCIe was standardized. If you mean NVMe, then that's nothing more than 4 lanes of PCIe and a different transfer protocol. Nothing amazing.

Why does AMD use that shit brown color and poo smear logo for Zen?

AMD Bulldozer/Vishera

>yfw 8-core laptop cpu

Entirely possible, but unlikely since it doesn't have the intel badge. 8 Core/16 thread Summit Ridge could fit inside of 35w at 2.1ghz. Some mobile workstations allot way more than that for their CPU.

Zen looks a lot like clusters of Haswell/Broadwell-D chips.
Each Summit Ridge/Zeppelin has 2x 10GbE controllers and some SATA lanes in addition to the more standard PCIe lanes.

This is probably actually a really smart strategy.

Hope.

>wccftech.com/new-amd-zen-blender-benchmarks/
INTEL CONFIRMED FOR KILL

WE KILLED THE JEWS

>putting SATA lanes on the CPU
There is no advantage in this. Why not increase the memory buswidth by adding two more channels? Or swap the SATA lanes for some SAS3 ones? SAS is far more useful in an enterprise environment.

>SATA lanes on the CPU
Jesus i need a new PC, my memory controller is still on my fucking motherboard.

when the fuck is this shit show coming out so i can upgrade my compoorter?

>As good as 10-Core Intel Xeon
>AMD Engendering sample

Keep in mind, this might be high end CPU that costs as much as 10-Core Intel Xeon.

because SATA is literally just 2 differential wire pairs and DDR4 is about 300 pins?

It's a shit 8-core that can't even clock higher than a i7-960 from almost eight years ago. Delivers roughly the same performance as a six-core Broadwell-E at best.

>tfw no patches nor optimisations for future cpus features on win 7

Im glad AMDrones eat this bullshit up and buy AMDshit so I can stick with quality Intel/Nvidia hardware without fear of them being split up.

We should really take a moment to appreciate AMDrones and their AMDelusions. Thank you.

And SAS is four pairs. It's a simple matter of splitting the pairs to convert them into four SATA ports from a single SAS bus.
>DDR4 is about 300 pins
Well now, they should have thought of that before leaving us with two separate memory channels and no hope of a comparable quad-channel memory and relying on RDIMMs to break past 64GB of memory.
And this is supposed to be a serious contender for data-center and virtualization use in the enterprise world.

ok Isaac

Sorry, eight pairs. I was only counting the transmit wires.

>install Gentoo
>run Windows 7 as a VM

DELETE THIS

I love my FX8350, especially now that more stuff is taking advantage of eight cores and it somehow stayed relevant, but 32 coars is just insane, If the cpu truly is going to be 32 cores, it'll be an obsolete piece of shit before anything can leverage that.

>I don't know what a server is

does blender use more than 8 threads? is the article even real?

>High ass TDP AMD chips
>Server usage
Kek, c'mon user.

are you retarded user?

No, I'm just saying most server companies would like a chip that does more with that 95w or whatever it is, I'm not knocking AMD, an FX is more than most people need and it is cheap.

Zen is on 14nm finfet, iit's going to be around the same TDP as intel chips

SAS isn't long for this world, or at least enough to putting controller in CPU dies.

HDDs are being relegated to quasi-cold storage for which SATA is plenty sufficient, and NVMe will be the standard for SSDs for the next decade.

We'll start to see server CPUs with gobs of PCIe lanes so that 1U chassis with 10 u.2 drive bays etc. will become the norm.

>taking CurryTech serious.
Will you ever learn Sup Forums?

Intel 14nm better than Samsung/GloFo 14 nm by a significant margin.

Zen is more a TCO play than a pure perf/watt one.

The current gen opteron stuff is about equal to X99 stuff on TDP

and ya it'll be less for ownership, in addition to probably offering more cores/threads for less

Naples Opteron tops out at 180w for 32c/64t.
Intels current top Xeon is the E7 8890v4 with 24c/48t and its a 165w part.

the clock rates for Naples aren't going to be very pretty, when you consider the extra shit it has to deal with:

> 14nm process disadvantage vs. Intel
> extra South Bridge IO controllers eating into TDP vs. Broadwell-EP
> having to route data through external (interposer based?) GMI links in MCMs

despite all this I'm actually quite eager to see how the Snowy Owl parts perform and are priced though.
14c Broadwell-EPs range from $1400-$2100 depending on clocking/power, and AMD could easily start a price war in this segment as well as with the full Naples.

>SAS isn't long for this world
Nigga, SAS4 is releasing in less than a year, has over 22 Gbit/s transfer speeds, and - most important of all - is backwards compatible with previous SAS connectors and hardware. NVMe is just a storage protocol, SAS drives can use NVMe standards (the U.2 connector started out in life as a SAS connector). SAS will always have a place with enterprise SSDs because of this.
You can quit pulling shit out of your ass now.

It's not even great news, it shows that the eight core Zen is weaker than a stock i7-6850K, which has six cores.

Zen follows the same clock scaling as Excavator.
2.4ghz for a 32c chip isn't bad, not even remotely.

blender uses as much threads as it can find, meaning that hyperthreading doubles the threadcount up to, i believe as much as 16 threads

there is no way in fuck that 32c Naples will clock anywhere north of 2 GHz.

22c Broadwells cap out at 2.2 GHz in a 145 W envelope.

>I don't know what I'm talking about
Thats cute, child.
Zen is a much smaller core than Broadwell, less transistors, nowhere near as much FPU logic.
Zen has the same clock scaling as Excavator.

>Falling for AMD hype after they've lied about literally every other product they've released in the last 10 years.

> 8c @ ~3GHz Summit Ridge has 95W TDP
> 32c @ 2.4GHz Naples will fit in 165W

holy fuck, please try to think about how retarded what you're saying is, before you try digging any deeper.

If the 32c/165W part is clocked any higher than 1.6 GHz, I will hunt you down in the announcement thread to beg your forgiveness.
> protip: this won't actually be happening

>further proving you have literally no idea what you're talking about
Zen has the same clock scaling as Excavator.
Excavator's clock scaling is a known factor.

The fact that you can't figure this out in your 70 IQ subhuman brain proves you're too stupid to take seriously.

>being a stupid goy who buys Israel Inside with literal hardware backdoors

You don't even know the pricing, how can you say that it's bad just because it doesn't perform better than XYZ?

If its performance is high-tier already, and the price is very competitive, then it's pretty fucking good, specially for the market.

I rather pay 200$ less for 90% performance than a premium for a greedy company that does almost no improvements over its iterations while jacking the price incredibly high, monopoly or not, it's still a dick move and not necessary.

>no information on the hardware used

You don't need to know the performance or pricing. Just look at the history of AMD. They haven't put out anything that competes in a long time. They're a company that only exists so that Intel won't get shit on as hard for being a monopoly.

If AMD wants people to give them serious consideration when picking parts for their PC again, they need to put out something that competes in performance with the newest i5 and put it on the shelf for 80% of the price.

The put it on the shelf part is the most important. You can't buy anything but shit from AMD right now.

If I look at the history of AMD then I can easily consider that it will be a very good gen because John Fucking Keller was in charge for this CPU line.

Thats almost certain, it simply depends on the chip you choose and the cooling solution.

The "base" 8 core is probably the best one for that form factor though.

Jim*

Shit, Jim right.
Have a coworker that is called John, and since I'm sleepy I swapped shit up.

The best CPU in the world doesn't mean shit if they don't put it on the shelf. I don't follow this too close but I could have sworn Zen was supposed to be out by now. Keller isn't even still on their pay roll anymore right? If you have a game changing product you get it out fast. If you don't it doesn't really matter I guess. As long as you get something out often enough to keep Intel out of hot water. That's where their real money comes from.

I really hope they knock it out of the park with Zen. It will be nice to have intel not being to charge whatever the fuck they want for 5% increase in IPC and another socket. Signs are pointing to same old shit. Christmas is coming up right?

I'm not delusional, just hopeful that it will at least compete with enthusiast grade hardware, does not have to be the best for me.