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Microsoft.

>%
Invalid statistic, move along

Field became massively overcrowded, so they stuck with the other high end jobs shown in the graph.

Women choose women study major instead since it's far more easier than taking meme major.

Is women's studies part of Law or Medical?

Fuck off back to /r9k/

Medical :^)

They found out that it was based on merit and not looking pretty

This is actually really interesting if it's true. Perhaps this is merely due to the rise in normal men choosing computer science as it becomes a more accessible technology, and the number of women who would normally join it remained the same.

>Medical School
Nursing.
>Law School
Paralegals
>Physical Sciences
Don't even know what that is referring to

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>Don't even know what that is referring to
Probably physics, chemistry, biology.

but I love wmmin

What went so wrong here?

Women saw CS as a profession, men saw it as a hobby. So men tended to tinker with computers at home outside of school, giving them a headstart in CS.

>The first accredited women's studies course was held in 1969
>The National Women's Studies Association was established in 1977
>The first Ph.D. program in Women's Studies was established at Emory University in 1990

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_studies

women are illogical

you guys are interpreting this graph like it's absolute numbers rather than proportional. like women just flooded out of the CS field in the mid-80s.

the field exploded in the early 90s. it became highly lucrative for a relatively low skillset, so tons of men flooded into it. if 100,000 men suddenly became nurses, you'd see a similar precipitous drop. it wouldn't mean that women were losing interest in nursing.

also you fucking idiots who are misreading the graph are fucking retarded. you're a discredit to your gender.

Kek

thank fuck

IT got dumbed down to the point literal retards infest it. Note that women did domina the grunt work force at some point (center of the bell curve) during the transition period.

Banner give us an answer, banner always right.

Because programming is hard.

Because programming requires actual skill.

>Probably physics, chemistry, biology.
Worthless soft "sciences" so it's fit for women.

>physics
>soft science

One.

Women prefer more social careers and more qualitative degrees.
Noteable exceptions are women who are autistic, or women who are essentially polymaths, who enjoy academic rigor.
Computer science is not rigorous, and other students are painfully autistic, which is not attractive to the latter group of women.
% of women majors in computer science drops, and we are surprised... why?

Flipped.
nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/current_tables.asp

With IQ estimates.

That actually might make sense...

Why would a woman want to work with the social monsters who populate Sup Forums (all Sup Forums is Sup Forums).

CS is the last refuge of perverted neckbeard spergatroids. We don't need fish anyway because we are all either openly or latently gay. Gender is a social construct and men make the best women, so chase the rest of the fish out of our precious social hugbox.

Could you project any harder?

I wouldn't take the IQ system seriously, though the graph probably does accurately portray intellect associated with various fields of study. it's a thoroughly flawed system of measurement, more of a business tool for mensa than anything.

>we are all either openly or latently gay
Speak for yourself faggot.

>believing this IQ distribution

Holy fuck. This whole thread.

If you're asking what the deal is with women and computer science, the graph is pointless on its own. You also need the same graph for men as well. You need to factor out commonality between the two. If males also have a decline, then there isn't much to say about women.

That said, if males aren't declining, then we can talk about women not entering the field. But without that comparison/validation, the entire discussion is pointless.

They realized they need brains and cold, logical thinking for it.

>medical school
>nursing
Lol no, a nursing degree is an undergrad but medical school is equivalent to grad school

Change the Y axis to "Men" and flip the image vertically to get the male chart retard.

without knowing the context of what he's saying, the "paralegal" comment makes me think he was indicating what someone with a BS in those areas could do within that industry. in reality you need to get some training to be a registered nurse, but i forgot what. maybe most of that work is done through the bachelor's degree.

but otherwise he's right. if you just have a BS, you could maybe be a paralegal or a nurse (obviously depending on the degree), but to be an attorney or a doctor you would need to get a more advanced degree.

i think it's worth noting that CS doesn't have this relationship. someone with a BS in computer science should be competent at implementing stuff and, depending on the focus of the curriculum, do a fair amount of higher level design (that is, planning the codebase, not artsy fartsy design). and maybe some amount of project management, but not necessarily very much out of the gate.

a PhD in CS is *completely* different work. you do this open-ended research that strongly shifts away from implementation and more towards creativity; thinking of different approaches to proofs, coming up with ideas, etc...

a lot of PhD students in CS drop out because the skills that made them good undergrads don't carry over that well. it doesn't hurt that students at good universities get poached by headhunters offering six figure salaries if you'll just quit, but that's a separate thing.

Sup Forums, everybody

You dumb fuck

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what did you mean by this?

They realized they suck at it.

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you should be able to figure it out unless this is some commentary on how the graph assumes that genders are binary or something.

the better question is what the raw numbers are. did men flood into CS in the 30 years following 1980? if so, then we should look into what caused a fuckton of men to flood into CS while women didn't. did the curriculum shift? did men just respond more to the increasing lucrativeness of CS?

if the class sizes grew roughly in step with the other fields (law, phys. sci, etc...) then we should come back to asking why the floor collapsed under women.

Hey guys i want to make CPUs and shit like that

What should i study?

I have to decide since tomorrow im going to make the paperwork to get in college.

FLSA exemption. Most women prefer not to waste their entire lives at work. Especially when the best method of increasing your wage is to continually hop jobs and abandon relationships.

Reflect along y=50%, move down by 50%

>In 2016 47% of women majored in medical
>45% in law
>40% in physical sciences

These statistics don't make sense. these statistics aren't even accurate for the percentage of these fields that women consist of either.

Wtf am i looking at

...

As a med fag I can say there's a 50/50 split between men and women doctors, probably more women these days actually
Thing is these people are just as obsessed with their work as the opposite sex to the point where they go full autismo over it and have no lives outside the hospital

>Mom was a programmer, but had 5 kids and
>helped dad start an HVAC business. She knew
>Cobalt, Fortran, C, and whoever knows what
>else. She will be 59 in February and quit
>programming in the late 80's. Too much
>overtime for the salary I suppose.

>cobalt
hmm

My aunt used to work at Nortel before they went under, does some consulting now days on her T60p running Debian

lol

demn that sounds pretty cool

they saw trinity dies and thought it was sexist

Can't you see by the graph?

They all went to physical science, med school and law school fucktard.

Kek, I completely misread the graph. Disregard me, I suck cocks.

I don't see the other lines increasing by a corresponding amount. They're effectively linear.

This

woman detected.

Autism "won" the fight to control the work place.
Also, no money.

Alright, here's the actual answer to this.

This had to do with the advent of the personal computer. Before this time, men and women came into 1st year CS classes on more or less equal footing.

CS was math heavy, and if you had an analytical mind then you did fine. Men and women did more or less equally fine at this.

Once personal computers became a thing, then the landscape changed.

From the very beginning, they were marketed heavily towards young boys and men. If you look at ads during the 80s for computers, they never featured women or girls as the consumers. The actual owning and operating of personal computers was very male orientated because that's precisely how they were marketed.

Now when men and women entered a CS class, there was this huge gap because a good portion of guys already had a lot of experience using computers. A lot of women felt imposter syndrome on entering and left.

There's a good episode on NPR's planet money that covers this pretty thoroughly

This continues on pretty heavily today. The imposter syndrome in CS is common amongst both sexes. A lot of people who come into CS who have prior programming experience seem like gods. Anyone who sticks it out and tries hard enough and gets past 2nd year will start to see skills more or less evening out amongst who is left over.

Lastly, because of that divide, the general idea that computers are for dudes (all because of savvy marketing), women are often second guessed every step of the way on their path as a CS student. Generally, women just have to have a stronger mental fortitude and willingness to succeed than male students.

Just to add, I'm a dude who graduated from a top CS school and now has a job at very well known tech company. If you pay attention when you're at school, you can easily notice a lot of the apparent sexism whether or not its overt or unintentional

>make cpus
If you want to design them electrical engineering while choosing electives in semiconductor design and cpu architecture. If you want to work on the process physics with emphasis on quantum mechanics. Probably couldn't hurt to pick up a minor in physics if going the ee route or pick up a minor in ee if going the physics route.

Well, he is right, but it has no effect on the point the graph is making, which is true.

>percentages don't add up to 100
was this graph made by a woman?

>Most computer jobs were cushy academic/government/MIC stuff
>Mid 80s saw the rise of the hyper-competitive zero lifestyle private sector IT industry

>hyper-competitive zero lifestyle
tfw i will work on Christmas

I'm not sure if you're reading the graph correctly. Are you suggesting this graph is supposed to represent all women college majors? Because it just looks like a breakdown of men vs women for the 4 categories listed (medical, law, physical sciences, computer science).

I don't think the personal computer thing applies anymore. In this day and age, every kid has a laptop.

And what do you mean women are "second guessed" when choosing CS as a major?

>americans go to ""schools"" and ""colleges"" instead of universitites

Fantastic contribution to this post

Comp sci is boring. All the people you work with are lame.

In this scenario, the IQ is just SAT scores data.

So its 100% valid.

You are actually retarded.

>In this scenario, the IQ is just SAT scores data.
>So its 100% valid.
I really hope you were just kidding desu but I can't read any sarcasm in your post

>I don't think the personal computer thing applies anymore. In this day and age, every kid has a laptop.
Could easily still be felt as residual momentum. I think more or less in everybody's head the idea of the programmer is a dude (used to be the nerd with thick glasses, now more likely either a neckbeard or a fit, "modern lifestyle" guy).
Also, but this is just my unsubstantiated opinion, I've always felt women to be more attracted to either pure fields (mathematics, physics), very mnemonic fields (law, literature), art or fields that have to do with living things (medical, biology). Basically, anything that isn't engineering. And a large part of CS is engineering.
I think the common denominator of those is abstract reasoning, whereas engineering requires you to be very grounded to what you actually have at hand.

>what happened to women in computer science?
>"computer science"
thumbnail wasn't really readable apart from that one so I thought it was an answer and had a hearty kek