>Fast
>Secure
>Lightweight easy-to-use interface
>Great gaming experience
>Best in class hardware compatibility
>Just works
What exactly is the problem with Windows 10? Personally, I don't see any issues. Is it just butt-hurt open sores neckbeards feeling bad about using inferior software and crying to their mommas? Does Windows 10 make them feel like hairless pre-teen boys in a man's world? What gives?
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Mediocre troll thread is mediocre, but...
*grabs popcorn*
If you don't know what's wrong with it after all this time then you're just ignorant.
windows 8.1 is the last acceptable windows ever
switch to mac or linux
Windows 10 is for people who want to watch youtube and porn. Its complete trash for everything else. It's no longer a tool to CREATE things, its just a tool to CONSUME them
Case in point:
>company working with microchip dev software
>windows 7 works fine everything is peachy, straightforwarded automated driver install
>windows 10 requires driver signing
>requires every one to restart their computer using arcade keyboard shortcuts
>after spending 20 minutes doing stupid shit just to get the drivers to install, still doesn't work
Windows 10 is for normies. Its not for people who actually create things, whether its software, audio, video, hardware, etc.
No sane hardware or software or media developer like W10. Every alternatives (W7, Linux, OSX) is way better for those tasks.
You gonna need this!!
>memeing this hard
not to mention customizable as fuck. people need to grow a brain, turn off the botnet, turn off the telemetry and then you realize it is the best all-around OS.
sure linux does shit some very specialized shit better but atleast I get the peace of mind knowing fucking office is supported.
>Fast
8.1 is faster though
>Secure
Windows Defender acts like a spoiled child when another antivirus program is installed
>Lightweight easy-to-use interface
Consuming 3.1 of my 8 (7.88) GiB of RAM is not lightweight
>Great gaming experience
Buy a console
>Best in class hardware compatibility
That's a weird way to spell Windows 8.1
Also I got 2 BSODs because of an alleged driver problem which couldn't be solved on a forum with a fucking support member. I have to add that it's fairly widespread.
>just works
The works/doesn't work factor is different for each computer
it can hardly delete the os it is running on desu
I'm so feeling what OP's coming from. I too have never viewed Windows as anything else than Consuming OS. You know, it's the thing you must install if you want to do gaming and run some obscure (usually gaming related) programs. And, definitely, Windows 10 is the least troublesome to install and maintain, most malware-free experience out of the Microsoft Consuming OS series. Plus it's up to date with modern technologies and software trends. Linux, for me, has been so great for everything else than gaming. Right now I have a Windows 10 PC purely as a "gaming console" and a Linux laptop for the rest (because dual boot is disruptive for my workflow and laptops have video outputs as well). And if I was to start doing professional audio/video production etc, and money was no issue (like it shouldn't be for professional tools), I'd get a Mac.
>unknown binaries
>secure
>source code that no-one audits
>secure
How'd ya do all dat to your Windows 10 install? Some of those things look nice, though admittedly I really don't like some others.
Damn user, this looks to good to be Win10. Nice work
it's not secure from microsoft
>Just works
kek'd
>Buy a console
lol
>audio/video production etc, and money was no issue (like it shouldn't be for professional tools), I'd get a Mac.
For what reason?
>kek'd
Need 4cores minimum and like 8 giga of RAM todo run smoothly
my windows 8.1 works like a charm
I develop here for Debian
playing games
and enjoying the most richest software ecosystem in known universe
all of that while being rock solid stable because I actually know how to manage my OS
>osx for content creation
>apple barely updates their os, since they keep most of their devs working on iOS
>the whole macOS namechange is meant to point to a future where their desktop will become more like iOS
>apple is killing every product for professionals (mac pro last updated 2013, final cut, logic last major release 2013, aperture completely scrapped, Thunderbolt Display killed this year, etc)
Yeah, nah.
Still infinitely better than Windows 10 "I'll randomly use 100% of your hdd to bring the entire OS to a fucking crawl" or "I'll force you to restart in the middle of important work" or "I'll force you to restart in the middle of work you left to complete overnight"
OSX is bad because the people making the decisions have lost their way but at its core ist still a competent OS
Windows 10 is a malicious piece of malware that goes out of its way to hinder the creator. The people who designed it only considered it for consuming Facebook and Youtube, nothing else. Any serious work is just legitimately impeded by this piece of shit.
That's why malware just hijacks the framework and piggybacks on the telemetry
>muh graphics
Autism. Also >>>/ v/
Windows 10 is an ever-changing, non-transparent, disjointed mess of an OS. Many of its annoyances can't be successfully tweaked away, and those that can require pages and pages of explanation. Furthermore, any such guide would require constant editing over time as Microsoft alters Windows 10 on almost a monthly basis now.
I've rapidly lost all respect for Microsoft, and consequently have lost a great deal of interest in anything to do with their products. Microsoft's clumsy, desperate, visionless push to get PC users to adopt dumbed-down mobile-oriented apps purely for their own commercial benefit; the unrelentingly persistent, unethical, and highly deceptive way they're trying to trick less tech-savvy Windows 7 and 8.1 users into "upgrading" to Windows 10; and their insistence on reducing user choice and control over Windows have all left a very bad taste in my mouth. This is an inept company struggling for relevance in the mobile era by shamelessly abusing its monopoly on desktop operating systems, and I don't want to play any part in helping them do that.
>Fast
>Secure
>Lightweight easy-to-use interface
>Best in class hardware compatibility
Are you drunk? Or did you forgot about every recent Linux distro?
>Lightweight easy-to-use interface
>8.1 is faster though
no it isnt
Linux has terrible UX and hardware compat
Win 10 interface is a bit snappier but video gayms run at the same speed.
win10 is an absolute fucking mess
I create things daily.
I have to write code and new tools daily and i draw a lot of shit.
Win10 gives me at leasta solution to developwith linux librariesand bash with WSL.
reminder that if you use win10, you are the death of the home computer, congrats, cunt
This.
Windows 10 is an overall great OS.
The only thee reasons people of Sup Forums are bitching about are:
>Privacy concerns (Though almost all that telemetry can be disabled)
>Inconsistency in design
>muh free software
Read
I like it anyway.
Now kys freetard
Multi-OS Masterrace!
Windows/Linux/macOS here
>Windows 10 is an ever-changing, non-transparent, disjointed mess of an OS. Many of its annoyances can't be successfully tweaked away, and those that can require pages and pages of explanation. Furthermore, any such guide would require constant editing over time as Microsoft alters Windows 10 on almost a monthly basis now.
Just about every hardware manufacturer has taken ages to be able to produce functional drivers for each iteration of windows. At the very least it's taken at least a year. That was when MS released a new OS only very four years. Now they do the same YEARLY. Someone didn't think things through.
Sup Forums smells an awful lot like curry today
>Fast
No it's even more bloated
>Secure
Had many backdoors
>Lightweight easy-to-use interface
Ligtweight is 350mb out of 2GB not 1GB out of 2GB
>Great gaming experience
With DirectX12 being exclusive you get treated like a console fag
>Best in class hardware compatibility
No in fact it is even shittier at recognising hardware than 7. And on Win 10 Home you need to pay extra for DVD playback.
>Just works
'explorer.exe stopped working' the error that shows up on my screen every day. I am not even using any of the insider builds.
I fucking love curry.
I'm running it on a machine from 2008 (e8400, 4GB RAM, HD5770) and it flies.
>and their insistence on reducing user choice and control over Windows have all left a very bad taste in my mouth.
what can you do in older windows versions that you can't do on 10 beyond update settings that can be easily configured in group policy?
>what can you do in older windows versions that you can't do on 10 beyond update settings that can be easily configured in group policy?
Have confidence that my settings actually work and won't chance without my permission later.
certainly, that may have been a problem before anniversary update
Best way to go is Windows 10 enterprise LTSB 2015 with MTP drivers installed and O&O shut up 10 or ith other telemetry/windows defender blockers installed.
Pros:
>Stable
>No forced updates
>Consumes 1.7 GB RAM when idle
>No metro apps
Con:
>The fucking disgusting UI
>Clover window manager doesn't look good
>No metro apps (if you're one of those retards who use metro apps)
okay?
The UI's great though. Literally everything everyone hated about start screen is fixed
They have no arguments against Windows 10. Absolutely nothing. So they have resorted to FUD and bullshiting, trying to convince gullible retards that believe anything they read on the internet. Anyway, let them use whatever they want, while we use our superior OS. While all these retards are "busy" trying to find the Xorg option for their drivers that avoids tearing while watching videos, we are enjoying our computers.
>I'll randomly use 100% of your hdd to bring the entire OS to a fucking crawl
Sounds like someone doesn't have an SSD.
>"I'll randomly use 100% of your hdd to bring the entire OS to a fucking crawl"
Works on my machine
>"I'll force you to restart in the middle of important work"
Doesn't happen
>"I'll force you to restart in the middle of work you left to complete overnight"
Who leaves their work open, unsaved, overnight?
This thread is either trolling or the future of PC is very bleak.
what do you mean?
>1.7GB on idles a pro
I've got "RAM: 1728MiB / 7942MiB" on gnome a heavy DE, with a addon filled firefox with 10 tabs, spotify open, terminal open, hexchat open and steam open
>>"I'll force you to restart in the middle of work you left to complete overnight"
>Who leaves their work open, unsaved, overnight?
I regularly leave big projects compiling or stress simulations running in CAD programs overnight. While I was still on Win10, the OS decided multiple times that that was not allowed. Anecdotal, I know, but it seems indicative of some serious problems.
>can't do work on an os that boasts it's for doing work
holy kek
If people accept the cancer that is Windows 10, they're going to get more malware tactics forced upgrades, shitty nonworking updates and forced telemetry pushed on them, by more developers than just MS.
but it just werks
yea but it doesn't, on some hardware it runs into problems and you can say oh well not on my machine but I've never had a single issue using linux on my machine so I could say it just works right? no I fucking can't cause neither windows 10 or any linux distro just work
>on some hardware it runs into problems
You must have some really fringe hardware, Windows is like the only OS that works on most hardware.
macOS is very restrictive and linux has a lot of issues with lots of hardware.
This is the worst argument you can make against Windows.
You can talk about not liking the UI inconsistency, forced upgrades (for those who don't know how to disable that) etc. But windows is known for having the widest support for both old and new hardware. You can literally run Win10 on a pentium with 2GB of ram.
Learn to shit in a fucking toilet, Pajeet. It's fucking 2017 now, not 917 AD anymore.
on my current PC I installed everything fine all my hardwares working but on windows 10 4/5 times the start menu would just be black it'd crash a lot and sometimes take 30+ minutes to boot - that's what made me switch to linux and so far I've had 0 problems with it but just incase you don't want to take my word for it
urtech.ca
the links show it has issues on certain hardware also nothing fringe it's a refurbished thinkcentre with a 750ti
conversely, I used to use Linux until I got a new monitor which wasn't properly supported. At least on windows you can usually fix it by reinstalling
fair enough, I'm not claiming linux is perfect I understand me not having any issues is a rare thing, I just hate the "just works" argument because in some cases both will work perfectly and sometimes neither will
>just werks
NOTHING in fucking tech 'just werks' any more. I had to fucking CLEAN re install windows because it wouldn't remove a fucking network bridge, which was stopping my internet connection. Even after a reset, a rollback to an older system restore point (by the way, they all delete themselves at the start of a new year!) The issue STILL persists and now I'm blue screening on a fresh install.
Fuck this piece of shit.
slow. current version has a bug where the downloads folder takes forever to load. photoshop and heavy programs hang when trying to save files
secure: Is it really? i have never had problems with security but ill bet you the same % that had trouble with win7 have trouble with 10.
lightweight and easy interface: Ok stop the bullshit, win10 has two control panels, control panel and settings, the menus in settings are stupid, just to access wifi passwords menu is a fuckton of clicks, so is accessing different things that where way easier when we only had control panel. And the flat UI thing is fucking horrible.
Hardware comp. sure its windows, it always had this.
just works: well yeah it has to work. but it isnt flawless and people are still reporting crashes and problems, probably more so than with win7 era, but that might be due to evolving complexity of hardware and software.
win10 is shit tho. im using win7 in my office ,and win10 at home. and im way faster in win7, and it doesnt look like shit.
Also the lock screen before login password is laughable. its probably the dumbest security feature to ever exist.
That article sounds full of shit. I installed Win10 on a macmini from late 2012. So it's a 4 years old PC and Win10 works perfectly on it.
I installed an SSD, I have 16GB and Win10 works very well with that custom mobo that apple used for this model (with an intel chipset).
>the flat UI thing is fucking horrible.
Is that why so many linux UIs copy Win10's flat UI heavily? Because it's horrible?
Surely they copy both Win10 and macOS now, it's a mixture. I almost never see an original linux UI anywhere.
>that can be easily configured in group policy?
Just that. Group policy and AD were significantly handicapped in W10 and lost tons of functinality from earlier versions.
But to defend 10, but I had countless BSoD on Windows 8. Every time my laptop worked on battery, it had high probability of crashing. Probably an fucked up OEM OS installation, but still. I have never seen as many blue screens as on Windows 8.
I would've agreed on hardware couple years back, but in the recent years the Linux ecosystem has had many major strides towards compatability and performance. For instance tons of printers printers just work without extra installs in day-to-day distros and my recent install of GTX1080 works without a hitch.
UX depends alot on the DE in use; In my experience MATE and XFCE are even more user friendly than windows, and for power users KDE offers mindblowing options.
>But to defend
Meant "not to defend"
You use KDE or Xubuntu to replicate the same desktop with less effort and minus the botnet.
I don't get why windows gets such gospel from you guys, when in reality all these "tiny tweaks" literally turns the OS into its barebones or is an actual server install.
The bloating pile of shit that is the user facing "express" install that 9/10 tend to use is really fucking disgustring and does offer no real advantage above certain gaymes.
Using Linux well isn't more complicated at all, and all i hear is just hyperbole about the same things you ignore with windows.
>>source code that no-one audits
It does get audited and lately, a lot. I've seen more blogs pointing out every little vulnerability than ever before. It's like, Windows Aspies became literate and launched a campaign against Linux security. Fortunately, everything gets patched immediately as a result. Thanks, Pajeet!
>switch to mac or linux
Are you saying that this linux can run on a computer without windows underneath it, at all ? As in, without a boot disk, without any drivers, and without any services ?
That sounds preposterous to me.
If it were true (and I doubt it), then companies would be selling computers without a windows. This clearly is not happening, so there must be some error in your calculations. I hope you realise that windows is more than just Office ? Its a whole system that runs the computer from start to finish, and that is a very difficult thing to acheive. A lot of people dont realise this.
Microsoft just spent $9 billion and many years to create Vista, so it does not sound reasonable that some new alternative could just snap into existence overnight like that. It would take billions of dollars and a massive effort to achieve. IBM tried, and spent a huge amount of money developing OS/2 but could never keep up with Windows. Apple tried to create their own system for years, but finally gave up recently and moved to Intel and Microsoft.
Its just not possible that a freeware like the Linux could be extended to the point where it runs the entire computer fron start to finish, without using some of the more critical parts of windows. Not possible.
I think you need to re-examine your assumptions.
>hardware compat
What, Broadcom wireless and AMD GPUS? Nothing that matters,desu.
There isn't a common core UX in the Linux ecosystem that tries to imitate some other organization.
People like flat design? they make flat design. People like the early 98-like taskbar? They create DEs with the same design.
It isn't like Microsoft is the only company ever to use such styles. Also not all of their design is horrible, just lots of it.
Tasty pasta
Yeah, like everyone should have something like that to compensate stupid design choices by the developer. Like, it's to expected, right?
>light weight
>requires a fucking SSD to start up
Yeah no, spending more doesen't sound like a solution, just a workaround.
>This is an inept company struggling for relevance in the mobile era by shamelessly abusing its monopoly on desktop operating systems, and I don't want to play any part in helping them do that.
I agree with most of what you have said, but I suspect that what is really going on is this: Microsoft really doesn't care at the moment about Windows 10. I think they've realized it's time for an overhaul and I guarantee Linux is going to be their way out. Expect something along the lines of what Google did with Linux and Android. It only makes sense from a business standpoint.
>Who leaves their work open, unsaved, overnight?
Anyone who renders stuff?
>inb4 doesen't own a personal rendering cluster
But bruh, I'm no big fan of Microsoft, but I think they launched this trend towards flat UI, since the Zune metro interface.
en.wikipedia.org
This was sometimes before 2006. How were UIs in 2006? Skeuomorphic UI everywhere. 3D plastic buttons, bevelled windows, photo-realistic textures, it was all one big vomit.
I don't know how Microsoft even managed to come up with such a major overhaul of UI/UX paradigm that everyone basically followed.
In fact, people have become aware of the flat UI meme sometimes after 2010s, but it had been launched some years earlier.
I'm surprised Microsoft was able to come up with something so ahead of its time, everyone agreed back then they were the most boring and stiff company ever.
ITT: a bunch of faggots talk about botnet and their porn watching tendencies.
Are you trying finding stuff to get offended by on purpose?
Wrong thread?
5 poos have been deposited to your loo, Pajeet Ghale.
Thank you for your cooperation!
>windows is bad
>uh botnet
>muh privacy
>guvermunt sees me when i slappy
>gotta pretend im an international criminal that needs 37 VPNs and a plan zero
>vista is wall against guvermunt and hackerman
this is bait
(you)
Valuing privacy is perfectly normal and healthy in every meaning of the word. This kind of activity doesen't just absorb and analyze all you do, it can be done retroactively by anyone with a grudge or goal against you.
Sure you may try and make yourself seem as harmless as a little worm as to not anger the big guys if/when power changes, but if you ever intend to become someone privacy is one of the first things to hold onto. You don't even have to become anyone important, just anyone with some money can ruin your life with the smallest thing.
You cannot change history, whilst you can the law, and retroactively apply that law onto your history.
>render
every fucking time lol
If you're that into it, learn to use gpe then
>getting this upset over marketing algorithms
What's it like being as paranoid as a heroin addict?
>a comment that actually answers and proofs that normal windows functioning will prevent you from doing what you intend without a workaround
>just do this, that and XYZ
You know, if i wanted to tweak stuff i could just go Linux anyways.
Did you even read my comment?
>iTerm2
wait is this a mac? what the fuck is going on here...?
>inconsistent user interface
>irritating unnintuative start menu
>forced updates
>tracking
>tracking
>tracking
>minimal improvements for the user compared to 7/8
>something happened
>something happened