>apps that Sup Forums swears are not botnets, but actually are botnets.
Go.
Signal
-needs your phone number and contacts
-needs google play services to work
-is only distributed via the Play store
-can only be used from the one device that is most trackable, your smartphone
-author uses the obviously fake name of Moxie Marlinspike. Real name is Matthew Rosenfeld.
What other botnets have you noticed Sup Forums shilling as safe?
THIS
WhatsApp is way more secure.
>WhatsApp is way more secure.
Fuck off. It's worse than Signal.
You realize Moxie also wrote WhatsApp's encryption right?
>implying you can prove there is encryption in a closed source app
>Moxie
*Matthew Rosenfeld
>WhatsApp's encryption
lol like that exists
>hurr durr it's a closed source app so it must be evil
Remember how the app was blocked in Brazil because WhatsApp refused to show them some messages?
So, since Signal is open source, can you tell me what actions can be executed on my phone from their c&c server?
>implying that proves anything, but the stupidity of the Brazilian government
Signal is open source
>implying you can prove there is no encryption in a closed source app
>be Matthew (((Rosenfeld)))
>use fake name so people download your botnet
Sup Forums was right again
I'll just leave this here.
>Matthew Rosenfeld
Is this his real name? May I have source?
Facebook is richer than the entire country of Brazil
>arguing about botnet software running on botnet hardware
That wasn't implied at all.
Nice, the only thing you forgot was
>audited
And?
You’re not very bright.
The server is not open source.
Why are you lying on the internet, user?
Everything the app can do is still visible in the source code.
You could at least link to some lines/functions in the github repo, that back up your statements.
>botnet
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means
>-needs google play services to work
microG
push is only used for device wakeup, no message content
>-is only distributed via the Play store
has there yet been a continuation of LibreSignal?
>Today's example comes to us via blog post by hacker/security wonk Moxie Marlinspike. Yes, he has a name like an animated supervillain, but he also sports an impressive resume. As an independent security researcher, Marlinspike (whose birth name is probably Matthew Rosenfeld)
>has there yet been a continuation of LibreSignal?
no
there is a fork called Noise in the fdroid repository from copperheados, which does not use google play services
Silence is another fork that is on f-droid and frequently updated
It still doesn't fix all the problems Signal has.
Outdated as fuck
Telegram added a lot of features listed as missing in the table
most people aren't antisemites
Kill yourself noob
The problems Signal has won't be solved unless everyone throws away there phones and starts walking FOSS laptops around like stallman.
>only on play store
Aptoide
Just use libresignal you dumb niggers.
>amerilards still use sms as their primary form of comunication
Who audited it?
nobody
>imessage is mms
What the fuck are you on, it's open and free software.
Ok, so tell me what I should use instead.
>-needs your phone number and contacts
Replacement for SMS messenger, makes sense.
>-needs google play services to work
Uses the Cloud/Firebase Messenger service to handle message delivery and Push notifications, the servers are robust without having to provide their own servers and require the application to keep the device awake more to maintain connections.
>-is only distributed via the Play store
>-can only be used from the one device that is most trackable, your smartphone
>-author uses the obviously fake name of Moxie Marlinspike. Real name is Matthew Rosenfeld.
see
liar
>This project was abandoned because Moxie Marlinspike said he was not OK with LibreSignal using the Open Whisper Systems servers and the name "Signal".
nice
Yes and it still works fine. Without connection to googles servers.
>muh updates
why update from something that just works
Really? I didn't think people still used SMS anywhere, haven't used it in at least seven years.
t. Citizen of Merkelstan
That's because they're ignorant.
Signal's whole business model is to get acquired by either google or facebook as soon as possible. Every technical decision they took aims to boost their value as a corporate asset.
Signal is just Whatsapp with less features and way less users.
>still needs your phone number
>still no proper web app or desktop client
Let me know when you have something good.
If Wire makes their server open source it's game over.
>>Signal cannot work without connecting to google
>someone makes a fork that does exactly that
>>D-d-d-DELET THIS
why is moxie such a cuck
>>>Signal cannot work without connecting to google
>>someone makes a fork that does exactly that
>>>D-d-d-DELET THIS
>why is moxie such a cuck
This, fucking hell.
I don't want my phone dead in less than three hours.
>talking to other people
What the fuck are you doing
You can inspect the network traffic. That alone wouldn't prove they can't decrypt your messages, but it could easily show whether or not encryption is being used.
>(((
What is this nigger meme?
It's a way to signal that someone is a Jew. A way to let your comrades know to proceed with caution.
>Signal's whole business model is to get acquired by either google or facebook as soon as possible.
how do you acquire open source code?
Sounds like newfaggotry. If you don't know Jewish names patterns by heart, you're retarded.
Went through the hoops to install Signal on a non Google phone. Install it on gf's phone. Sent message. She gets it one day later.
Dropped.
you acquire the company/developers.
if signal gets many users, you can't expect a non-signal fork to catch up any time soon.
What is your non-proprietary alternative, fellow kraut?
>implying anyone cares about Signal
Sadly normies dictate what you use if you have any social life.
I barely manage without Facebook ffs.
Whatsapp was inevitable.
Proton mail.Needs Play services to work.
It's on F-Droid too but it's called Silence.
Like fuck they do. Your normie friends all have phone numbers to text or call if they won't use decent software otherwise.
They usually don't have phone credits.
I live in a shit country. Also it's essential for image/document sharing.
They also have an email address.
Pain in the ass, only old people use that.
I personally like that concept but none of my friends would use that just because of me.
He said, having never asked his so-called "friends" if they could communicate via email instead of facebook.
No, you force them to use a more secure platform. And you tell them why they should. Why would anyone change anything if people like us just keep yielding to the masses?
That's my main point. Old people and aunts dictate what you use and they refuse to change because they fear of new UI and stuff like that.
You'll only end up alone on platform of your choice.
I've seen this exact post verbatim before. What did signal do to you?
It's also a way of calling them out to let them know we know who they are.
That doesn't make it any less stupid.
Here I'll explain.
Louis Rossmann (that guy who fixes shit on YouTube)
>Rossmann
See? Greentext has the same effect as your retarded newfag memetics.
There was an addon to Google chrome that was showing jewish last names like that
kys
>talking about security on your proprietary shit phone
nice MEME
wickr me, end of the thread
fuck off, mr. robot fan
Sup Forums is under constant JIDF shilling, so of course Sup Forums would shill for the jew who made signal.
>Matthew (((Rosenfeld)))
telegram still has no secret chat on desktop app.
>Sup Forums is under constant stormfag shilling
ftfy
>shill for the jew who demands you use google services
>this is somehow okay
Name 1 alternative to Signal that is open source and doesn't use Google play services at all.
Protip: PGP email doesn't count.
>signal
>google services
>opensource
wut?
libresignal.
silence.
pgp mail. you are retarded if you think this is more effort then texting.
xabber. it has OTR built in.
Kik
I only use it because all my friends do.
Security you idiot.
Mail is always more effort than texting.
t. retard.
seriously. why is this board such a cesspool of normalfags.
this is on the same level as saying irc is more effort than memecord.