So I haven't been paying attention until I got my 4K TV, but is HEVC x265 fucking witchcraft or some shit?
42 minute HVC1 1280x720 23.976fps coming in at under 100mb?
42 minute episodes, HVC1 1920x1072 23.976fps coming in at under 300mb?
1 hour 48 minute movie: HVC1 3840x1600 23.976fps at just 5GB?
Grab the fucking torches and pitchforks, Sup Forums
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Don't tell me what to do
like you have anything else to do, user
> He doesn't know about BITRATE
I'm watching this stuff and I can't tell a difference from the 1GB shit I usually download.
as compared to the HVC1 1920x1072 23.976fps coming in at under 300mb
> shitty license
> requires an octa core cpu to decode on the fly fast enough to play without glitches
>> requires an octa core cpu to decode on the fly fast enough to play without glitches
Which is why new hardware has HEVC hardware acceleration.
Bigger the bitrate, bigger the file size. No matter the res or the FPS ;)
If you don't give a shit about quality, i'ts OK. You'll only notice diferences if you are closer to the screen.
>> requires an octa core cpu to decode on the fly fast enough to play without glitches
i-is that why I can watch it just fine? I thought it was because we future now
>only 1GB
what the fuck are you downloading? 20min tbbt episodes?
My laptop C2D can almost play Blu-ray remuxes, I have a hard time imagining modern hardware struggles that much.
x265 is still shit and HEVC will become obsolete once AV1 is ready :^)
>> requires an octa core cpu to decode on the fly fast enough to play without glitches
wat
false as fuck, my shitty ipad air 2 runs HEVC purr-fect
kep dreaming
>false as fuck, my shitty ipad air 2 runs HEVC purr-fect
No it doesn't
yes, it does.
use the VLC app.
> app
>So I haven't been paying attention until I got my 4K TV, but is HEVC x265 fucking witchcraft or some shit?
No, you're just downloading shitty quality releases
I can compress your 2 hour movie into 50 MB if you want me to
> requires an octa core cpu to decode on the fly fast enough to play without glitches
I need all 32 cores to fully decode 10-bit 4K HEVC in realtime, and even then it just barely manages to do it. I can't play it in realtime without glitches either, because of inter-node access latencies.
For the current generation, there's absolutely no way around hardware decoding if you want to watch HEVC in realtime. If I can't do it with my 32-core machine, neither can you.
False af. My phenom ii x4 965 can play just fine (struggles beyond 45mb/s bitrate)
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1280x716 23.976fps [V: h264 high L4.1, yuv420p, 1280x716 [default]]
>HVC1
not a thing, bro
anyway, HEVC EOL anyway with VP9 and AV1
it will never see widespread adoption --- ever :^)
>4K Blu-ray
That's what MPC-HC says in the details. In any case, I don't care, I've read there is royalties and shit but I pirate everything, it's not like the scene is going to give a shit or pay it.
Still, the compression ability I'm seeing is impressive and I don't feel so shitty about net neutrality going to shit.
most of the scene uses H264 these days still
at any rate, the scene may not give a shit about royalties, but they do give a shit about producing higher quality videos, which they will do with AV1 within the next few years
>producing higher quality videos
whoops, meant to say producing smaller videos with equal or higher perceived quality
scene does not care too much about quality lel
My cheap 150$ chinkphone (lenovo k3 note) runs 1080p h.265 without any problem on hardware acceleration
though it is doubtful that the speed of encoding H264 with x264 will be surpassed by the reference AV1 encoder so we will have to see
>without any problem on hardware acceleration
>hardware acceleration
invalidated
H.265 is not a codec with a wide spread future.
It has been rejected by the tech industry for good reasons (IP became toxic) and the Alliance for Open Media will be releasing their new AV1 codec in late 2017 or 2018. AV1 will replace H.264, H.265 and VP9 for all internet streaming media so there is going to be a ton of new hardware rolling out to support that.
H.265 will only be used in 4K Blu-ray, some TV services perhaps and personal video encoders, essentially it's going to be the DivX of out time which is ironic as it was some of the same companies that torpedoed MPEG4/DivX from becoming a standard internet media codec did the exact same thing to H.265.
Any support for H.265 in a web browser is highly dubious as that would undermine AV1 and pretty much everyone in the industry is behind AV1 (bar Apple but even they backed off H.265 and are sitting on the fence).
So just keep that in mind that H.265 support is no longer guaranteed on future media devices.
x265 is goat god tier future
people need to get off of the x264 meme asap.
...
My i3 is fine unless I try to play something crazy (4K60 or >4K).
My cheap Surface-clone gets insanely hot when playing x265 files.
Also my TV doesn't support the HEVC, so I use Emby to transcode files on the fly when watching movies on the TV.
>requires an octa core cpu to decode
Nigga I can decode it fine with a 3570k. If you're talking 4h 60fps shit, then that's an entirely different problem.
I'd like to re-encode everything and save more or less 30% of my storage. The thing is that x265 is very resource intensive and takes a fuckload to encode properly.
If anything, I'm more excited about AV1: en.wikipedia.org
nigger my 1070 has HW h265 decoding
nobody is gonna adopt any open shit
970 can do it too.
No 10-bit though.
There is no AV1 HW decoding devices yet so it's pointless to even use it
>nobody but huge companies are going to adopt it
Nigger at least use proper grammar.
>pointless
It's not even fully out yet. HW decoding is good when you have underpowered devices or want to save power. I give no shits about that on the desktop. HEVC will be replaced in the next 5 years, the support has been incredibly slow and it's still too costly to encode in the first place.
>It aims for state of the art performance with a noticeable compression efficiency advantage at only slightly increased coding complexity. The performance target is about 50% efficiency improvement over HEVC and VP9. At the beginning of June 2016 its performance was already comparable to HEVC as measured using the objective metric PSNR-HVS-M.[4]
>50% efficiency improvement over HEVC and VP9
So, half the time to encode? That's still a lot.
it just needs hardware support
just like 264 got
calm down kids
Does anyone have encoding tips for x265? Everything I compress looks blurry.
you know user
thanks for this
i've been considering htpc box for my tv
and this convinced me to just stick with x264 sources, m2ts remux etc. and buy something like a gigabyte brix
easy kiddo
scene isn't about quality
>Does anyone have encoding tips for x265? Everything I compress looks blurry.
Well you're probably bitstarving the damn video to hell. x265 is only good for things with small filesize like HDTV episodes anyways, x264 still achieves much better quality on higher filesizes cause the algorithm has been studied for years.
Decoding x265 is also problematic since most devices don't have a hardware decoder so it's mainly a PC likely that could decode it in software.
Prettygreat pls fix Bibliotik ;_;
Daiz already confirmed it's false that x264 is better quality as of late 2015
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install kodi
enjoy forever?
>Daiz
sure you bald drone, also did you actually read what i said? anime episodes are small as shit.
Prettygreat pls come back to /ptg/ I miss you senpai ;~;
Times may change but true love is forever.
No, no really
Kaby Lake has 8K HEVC Main10 hardware decoding
If you don't have HEVC Main10 hardware decoding, GTFO
nah i was just kidding
but forreal tho: if i'm just playing m2ts files, or ~50GB x264 files averaging like 40MBps at worst... what can i get to be /set4lyfe/ that's cheap?
intel nuc should do it, seems like. storage is on a nas
I have HEVC Main12 hardware decoding
With NetVC right around the corner (spring), I can't help but ignore HEVC.
NUC should do it.
But why, oh why it doesn't have HDMI-CEC support?
Personally, I move away from kodibox to separate Emby server with various client devices.
underrated post, so deep
>Emby server
only the one client, lot of work for just the one tv
love is a chemical reaction you dumdum
nothing is forever :ˆ)
yeah, kaby is mainly for 4K playback
What is wrong with H265 ?
i'm sorry, i'm just ignorant on the subject
If there is only one client, then just stick with Kodi. It just works My only issue is with the scrapper, if it has issues with recognizing files named like this:
>X-Men - Apocalypse (2016 [1280x536_x265_AAC].mkv
then we have an issue.
yeah, but i'm not bringing in shit labeled like that. i know what you mean with the scrapper, but i generally catch those early
need to find a refurb nuc. need to do this on an ullllllllllllllltra budget
>what was it like when you were young grandpa?
these were uncertain times, full of adventures and international debates
>shit labeled like that
I don't think that was a shit-tier name.
If you need to do it on really tight budget, you might do as my friend has done.
>attach HDD to router
>using router software create an only local network accessible FTP server
>add folders with movies and tv shows to the server
>buy cheap chink 20$ android based kodibox
>add FTP location as a library in Kodi
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>Not buy Intel Apollo Lake NUC with 8K HEVC Main10 hardware decoding
>intel.com
not seeing this on the market yet? at least the nuc itself. bummer. seems like a great futureproof purchase
"shit" is often used in place of words such as "stuff."
following up: preproduction engineering youtube unboxing from 5 december
i'll keep an eye, thanks user
>re-encoding
nigger stop
>hurrrr I can decode HEVC at 480p24
durrrr
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Kaby Lake handles HEVC Main10 120Mbps effortlessly while Skylake cries
HEVC is deprecated.
AV1 is futureproof, wait to the end of the year and buy products with hardware support for that instead.
>intel.com
where do I buy that?
Why, yes I can decode 1080p 7 years hand drawn just fine. I can't, however, decode 60 fps Korean sluts at 4k. I'm not in the mood for shitposting, user.
Not him but again, my laptop C2D can almost handle FullHD HEVC Blu-ray remuxes, I have a hard time imagining it's that bad with modern hardware.
What's so wrong with reencoding? Yeah you lose a small bit of quality each time, but with the correct settings, it's negligible.
My mistake user. I mean re-encoding some BDs from source. Even then, I've re-encoded some chinese cartoon episodes and compared them side by side, with practically no difference in quality, but much lower filesizes.
It's mainly down to the cost of patent licensing and royalties.
>HEVC Blu-ray remuxes
No, only GTX 960
>no 10-bit though
that's definitely possible for the later GPUs, not sure about the 960
AV1 hardware decoders will be implemented in all intel, amd and nvidia devices as soon as the bitstream becomes final
(nvidia, intel and AMD are part of the team working on AV1)
>So, half the time to encode?
Were you dropped on the head as a kid? A 50% improvement does not mean “double”. That would be a 100% improvement
Also, they're talking about efficiency, not performance.
if i either 1. clean install os x on here or 2. some kind of linux + kodi
am i good for huge BD files? 50GB m2ts, or encoded 30MBps, 30GB x264
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>there's no problem at all, trust me!
>pointless greentext
>x265 is only good for things with small filesize like HDTV episodes anyways, x264 still achieves much better quality on higher filesizes cause the algorithm has been studied for years.
What the _actual_ fuck are you smoking
>he actually bought into the botnet
yes, yes, goy; go get your 1% ipc improvement for $500
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> (OP)
All has to do with your CPU's instruction and GPU (if applicable).
Digital to digital generation is much less destructive.
How does copying a VHS onto another VHS compare at all with reencoding a video?
My last few reencodes have actually introduced quality because I know what I'm doing.
christ, dad, can't you read the comment i made immediately after?
MPEG-LA
>120 Mbps
I can decode 110 Mbps HEVC samples at 1080p on my sand bridge processor just fine, too
bitrate doesn't matter as much as the frame spec (resolution/bit depth)