First for Webpack 2 stable just got released, it's time to update you're build, bitches
Ayden Robinson
I've never had to use webpack.
What does it do? Is it like npm?
Jacob Sullivan
Transpiles from TS/ES6+ to ES5, minifies, uglifies, etc.
Andrew Wood
it's the most used module loading system, we need one before the official one gets released in about ES2023. Plus, it also works as a replacement of gulp/grunt
Asher Jackson
what's wrong with grunt ? i never did serious front end dev but i remember trying it out years ago
Josiah Howard
sarniescafe.com
How do I make an image element that scales fullsize with the browser window until the user scrolls down for more content? Im using css and I tried height: 100vh and min-height: 100vh. The fullsize works but the image end up getting cropped instead of scaling when the browser window goes too small
Aiden Nguyen
What are good sources of inspiration for good programming projects, potentially for a professional portfolio? Things like youtube channels, blogs, etc. I mainly work with enterprise software but anything interesting is welcome.
Cooper Roberts
Anybody have experience with high traffic data/event logging?
Kafka seems OK, but writing plain logs with something like Flume (or cat, for that matter) and reading using MapReduce or Spark might be much simplar at the expense of some efficiency.
It's pretty much personal preference. 99% of the people bitching about task runners never make it to launching a production web application, so use what works for you.
Nolan Bell
I've never seen a project that used Webpack that wasn't 100% shit.
It's hands down the WORST thing that has ever happened to front end development.
Caleb Edwards
how about mongoDB? (full disclosure, I used it for event logging, but it wasn't really "high traffic")
Owen Jones
Most projects still use grunt or gulp.
Dominic Kelly
> I've never seen a project that used Webpack that wasn't 100% shit
enlighten us, what technologies/libraries are used by the most awesome projects you have seen? also include date of project start, pls
David Nguyen
Could be. but if you want to use ES6 and modules, you need a module loading system.
So, you have to go either: - Grunt/Gulp + Babel + Browserify - Grunt/Gulp + Babel + Webpack
Or, even simpler if your use case is not too demanding, use webpack as your task runner: - Webpack + Babel
Jace Walker
Does your boss know you are asking for CSS advice in Sup Forums?
In any case, I'm traveling to singapore in 15 days, I'll help you in exchange of free burgers.
Andrew Young
>58537546
Express framework.
Also, nothing comes ready out the box. It does a whole bunch of stuff. It's not Django so don't expect it to be.
Nathaniel Phillips
i would not recommend that. trust me i have a degree in Computer Science.
Grayson Brooks
lightweight frameworks are quite an advantage in this client-side heavy world, I'd say.
John Wilson
to be fair, shitty courses like that exist all around the world, not only pakistan
Camden Bailey
With MongoDB and Kafka, it's not really and either/or -- you can use the two together. So, I have a firehose of data I need to deal with, and Kafka in that case would deal with write throttling, scaling, replication, etc.
At 500k req/min, queuing, storage, and fetching get hard
Henry Moore
You know how I know you are a React developer? Because you think everyone wants to use Babel and a module loader.
Webpack is a case of "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail".
Its dependency graph is incredibly clunky and the way it injects tags into HTML makes me want to puke.
A much MUCH better approach to front end development is to have a build process that doesn't break convention.
Go take a look at Yo Angular or Yo hottowel for reference.
I seriously hope you're not suggesting weighing down the client side so you can use a "lightweight framework"
Isaac Hall
Well, you guessed right, I am a React developer, I'll give you that. But I guess Angular2 guys are also fond of modules and ES6 (even experimental stuff like decorators, btw)
I agree that style handling in webpack is questionable.
Juan Ortiz
> /dev utils general/
what would you rather talk about? Doing fizz buzz in PHP5?
Lincoln Cox
Vue.js master race.
William Ramirez
is there literally any point in doing stateful web programs anymore?
Ethan Taylor
>uses templates >no onle liked templates >they conceded and added support for JSX >kek.js
Nolan Wilson
What do you mean by stateful?
Easton Morris
you must only make stateful apps then
Charles Reed
>can't explain what he means by stateful Speak up bro, do you mean having a backend? db? sessions? all of them?
Jaxson Evans
>assuming After looking it up, I have only made "stateless" apps. And by that I mean "Database-onry".
Also, databases are inherently stateful.
Blake Lewis
Actually shipping something Infrastructure & scaling Monetizing Monitoring & automation Applying webdev to traditionally nontechnical environments to do cool shit Securing applications Conventions/practices outside the scope of Grunt
These threads turn into a pissing contest about which build system is better, or which trendy JS framework is better. Don't get me wrong, I deal with both of those things (and more) at my day job, but there's more to all of this than that.
There's so much cool shit that can be done with webdev, and a stupid amount of money to be made. Really sad to see the conversation stop at Step 1.
Really depends man -- contracted with a SaaS concierge company whose core product was a stateful web app. It was easy for their small team to manage, and they didn't have any scaling problems because their product wasn't really meant to be used by thousands of people at once.
Tyler Nelson
databases are yes, but we aren't talking about databases, talking about web apps
Anthony Green
>web apps Most of which are database wrappers.
Justin White
you should have practiced a stateless design anyway, pleb, git gud
Robert Roberts
Holy shit you still aren't getting it. You don't know what stateless means I guess
Jaxon Martin
you are replying to a second person the first person now understands you perfectly and agrees that stateful apps are generally a poor design especially with regards to scaling and data resiliency
Christopher Cooper
>Security Warning: As of January 2017, data from tens of thousands of MongoDB installations has been stolen and is being held for ransom. This appears to be because when "installed on a server with the default settings ... MongoDB allows anyone to browse the databases, download them, or even write over them and delete them." Furthermore late-coming extortionists are overwriting the demands of the original extortionists. Therefore database owners who decide to pay the ransom will make payments to people who don't have the original data, so the data is not restored even though the ransom is paid. In other instances, the original extortionist did not copy the database before deletion, so the victim will not get their data back even if they pay.
lmfao oh that sucks for all you mongoDB'ers.
Luke Parker
I prefer to call it MemeDB or MongoloidDB.
Connor Morgan
I went through so much trouble securing my shit vps to make sure my rss feeds are safe from chinese bots i need to maintain a file with all the logins/autisticly long passwords i set up I can't imagine how one would install a production database with default settings (especially if default settings means no acess control)
Jonathan Parker
>Actually shipping something >Infrastructure & scaling >Monetizing >Monitoring & automation >Applying webdev to traditionally nontechnical environments to do cool shit >Securing applications Post your face when I asked one of those questions you made fun of and I have done all of these beyond what you're capable of.
I want to see it.
Parker Hall
Node.js, or as I have taken to calling it, Meme.js encouraged JavaScript kiddies to cobble together shitty backends out of premade parts.
Camden Russell
what's wrong with JS that it gets so much hate now?
Joseph Reyes
The language designers had code in mind that fits into an HTML attribute, took most people to write their 50k LOC webapps to notice that.
Eli Bennett
Thoughts about Memeor, /wdg/?
Never mind if it is "dead"; never mind if it doesn't scale; what I care about is, does it really allow you to prototype faster than "big" frameworks like Rails/Django?
Tyler Harris
I'm taking to trying my hand at more graphic designy stuff now that I've got a pretty good conventional foundation in programming and all that.
What I need now, is some ridiculously stylish websites or maybe some not so cluttered websites ( because my demo is mostly individuals and not so much enterprise companies ) to practice with and maybe get ideas from.
At the moment I have one major idea in web dev that I want to pull off and really I can't imaging it'll be that difficult barring finding the right restrictions on the return vector and ways to keep the return trajectory non-recursively normalized no matter where the drop occurs.
Stylish doesn't seem the right kind of idea, you know? When I was learning photoshop/illustrator my ps buddies and I used to go off trying to emulate the art of like active anime companies and the more organic figures ( to bring some life to these machines and geocities pages ). If you google Spike Spiegel wallpapers pic related comes up. I made that using the lasso tool in Photoshop. Just to give you an idea of what I mean when I say organic. Back then the styles that were most popular were the tech grunge, with nano shapes and structures ( honeycomb grids, random tube "grids", etc ) and those color dodge and color burn monstrosities with Lain bleeding into the background.
Now that I think of it, I may have been using Pen tool by the time I made that. Still, it looks like it was recovered from my old vaio and then resharpened or something because there are some shapes I don't recognize but that is definitely my old wallpaper. I think I entered it into a wallpaper contest and got second.
Anyway, hi guys. I'm bob.
I suppose if there's not meaning in that then there's not much meaning to be had among people.
hey wdg it's Django really worth to learn? I know some basic php crud and really want to learn something new.
Landon Russell
webpack pratik
Carson Flores
What is the best deal for a hosting service. It would be beginner stuff. Not much traffic. Thinking about namecheap.
Thomas Hall
Look into CouchDB as well.
Aaron Bell
Alright, so I have one shared hosting account that comes with one free domain. Let's say it's A.com. I want to be able to host 2 websites with 2 different domains with this single account. So I'll have A.com and B.com serving two completely different sites.
So basically I buy the second domain, create an addon domain via the shared hosting's cpanel and have the second domain forward all requests to the subdomain.
Is this correct or there is an easier way?
Benjamin Phillips
I use two VPS providers that aren't listed (I'm in EU)
forpsi.com/virtual/ Linux 1 Core 1 GB RAM 20 GB SSD STORAGE 2 TB/month transfer from 1.00 EUR+VAT/month Yes, it's really 1 euro ($1.10) per month.
Two cores RAM6 GB (guaranteed) Disk storage 500 GB 100 Mbit/s port UNLIMITED Traffic 6.99 eur per month
I use this for email server/owncloud
Josiah Barnes
I think it is because it is so fluid it has a lot of different ways to do the same thing more than a lot of other languages.
Michael Hill
>does it really allow you to prototype faster than "big" frameworks like Rails/Django? Maybe for a hackathon thing that mostly needs to look pretty and "work", but for a prototype meant to resemble a real-life crud app, rails and django are lightyears ahead of it. Plus if you proto your thing in meteor and get it the way you want, you then have to re-make it in something that's actually usable.
Yes, it's worth it.
For shared hosting, that's probably the easiest. If you have a VPS, you would just set up virtual hosting or something
Thomas Johnson
>can't imaging it'll be that difficult barring finding the right restrictions on the return vector and ways to keep the return trajectory non-recursively normalized no matter where the drop occurs. you wat ?
Thomas Davis
shameful display
Justin Gutierrez
This looks really cheap, any gotchas or problems with your providers so far ?
Jace Cox
only one. They recycle their IP4 addresses and I got one once that had previously been used by a spammer and was blacklisted by Microsoft.I couldn't get them to remove it from the blacklist so I deleted the VM and spun up a new one and got a clean IP.
Alexander Wright
Giving me the freedom to use whatever I want is kek because?
Nicholas Davis
Okay? It doesn't matter how many of those things you've personally done if you're not willing to engage in meaningful discussion around those topics as a means of helping newbies. You really epitomize the "smart people acting dumb" stereotype here
Camden Robinson
two big points stand out: real time applications like chat
also the fact that smelly smelly pajeets continue to insist on shoving everything to back end means we should be doing the opposite. why should a business stress their own resources when an end user has a $700 phone in their pocket that does the work for free?
Adrian Phillips
Question for the the Sup Forumsentoomen, is it possible to get into web development if you don't have CS background? I could not get into CS due to my weak maths and later due to financial reasons only managed to get a business studies degree.
I am in my 30's now and can't find a job and soon might not have a place to live. I want to be able to work freelance or join some small web development firm. I don't know if it is too late for me to learn. I have found some universities offering certifications and short courses on networking and web development, I will use my last bit of savings to do that if there is a possibility of employment in the future.
I did learn html, css and wordpress during my business degree.
Isaac Morgan
this is a terrible plan. you need to get an entry level IT job as a desktop support technician. check craigslist and monster but also local/regional temp staffing firms.
when you have money to live you can follow your passion and if your passion is web development you will eventually find your way into doing it full time. later on.
Hunter Johnson
I live in a 3rd world country where my qualifications don't mean shit. Entry level IT jobs require Bachelors in CS. I don't meet the criteria. Too much competition.
Chase Perry
What did you do the first 30 years of your life?
Justin Walker
I'm learning front-end at the moment using the learnCode.Academy video playlist and I feel like I've hit a wall with my learning of JavaScript, that series just jumps straight into JQuery and I don't think I'm ready for that quite yet.
Is there another good resource, video or written, that I can use to continue my JavaScript learning?
Jaxon Ross
If you know html/css/wordpress then apply today to Automattic as a 'happiness engineer'.
This pays $70k USD per year for simple support. To get this job solve the easy csv challenge. It's Unix epoch time so use date:
date -d"2014-07-22" -u +%s to find the epoch date in UTC, then just run awk: cat sample_data.csv | awk -F, '$2 >= 1403395200 && $2 < 1405987200 { print $2 "\t" $9}' | sort -n
Now write a simple function to do the same thing in java/ruby/php or python for the test.
Also read all their documentation and tell them about it in your cover letter, and read the Zapier customer service "book" zapier.com/learn/customer-support/
Now pretty much every customer support job posted to weworkremotely.com you can do after that. While working there you get remote experience and you can learn webdev or whatever on the side
Can also probably find torrents of those books, or just buy them used they're a good reference to always have lying around your desk you'll constantly use the books.
I'll buy some copies some time, but these mirrors worked so I have the first book now. Thanks!
I'll do this course too, thanks!
Wyatt Bell
It gets hate from non-JS users because they don't like change and when something faster and more powerful comes out they would rather stick to their older technologies and shit post about JS. Web programs are completely changing course and what they're capable of thanks to JS. Especially on the cloud. I hate JS syntax though.
Juan Hill
>Java Scripting fucking kek holy shit
Nathaniel Garcia
What do you guys think about Pinegrow Web Editor?
Nolan Sanchez
>faster >more powerful
>a single-threaded runtime with sub-par concurrency
Lincoln Bailey
>caring about fucking concurrency when javascript executes on each client's computer individually
Chase Garcia
your cpu must be shit if you can't handle async callbacks even if its on a single thread
Adam Fisher
how do I architect some widget in React that has... movement between different states. So you click one button it goes to one state, then depending on which buttons you click it can go to other states or loop back to the initial state. And specific actions occur depending on which states are being transitioned between
should I use some kind of FSM library? or is there a React way to do this? is this what Redux is supposed to do?
any good examples for this kind of thing? most React examples seem to be displaying data or other very basic UI flows
I'm trying to convert some kind of flash/actionscript app to this newfangled html5
Julian Martin
I wasn't criticizing clientside JavaScript, friends.
Ryder Gonzalez
sometimes the thumbnail does not load.
Is there a simple addition to a style or userscript I can add to render placeholder squares the size of the thumbnail to make them always clickable?
It is not blacklisted, blacklisted images have their own class.
Dominic Myers
or maybe even make the span-object act like the actual thumbnail
Matthew Rivera
looks more like it's hidden intentionally, see display: none.
Adrian Cooper
I thought that too, but when I hover the URL in the devtool it says "Could not load the image"
though opening it (the thumbnail URL) manually loads the thumbnail.
Benjamin Cruz
got an example page?
Nathan Adams
It loads for me in Opera, though not in Firefox (regardless of whether I am logged in or not, or using the default style or not).
But there's litereally ZERO good REST frameworks for it. How the fuck do I generate enterprise grade, fully RESTful CRUD applications without that?
You are forcing me to repeat tons of code, and you're making me do it in FUCKING JAVASCRIPT
Python has Django REST Framework. Absolutely beautiful definition of URLS, and lets you build viewsets which represent all the crud operations of a resource. Plus it sucks your dick.
You tricked me, Sup Forums
it doesn't even have good database support
John Powell
(nope, it was just me mistyping severely)
I try my best, user.
Juan Reyes
You posted this yesterday too. Use Express. Node doesn't do anything for you out of the box, so you'll need to learn all it can do. Git gud with async callbacks and stateless design.
