Tfw esports was just a fad

>tfw esports was just a fad

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Is """"professional"""" gaming the most pointless career choice out there? You become specialised in one game which requires little to no intelligence, problem solving, creativity or physical fitness. It's just learning strategies and repeating them. Then when people get bored of whatever game you're playing you're out of a job.
Even if some of the same applies to real sports players, at least they're playing well established sports that aren't going to quickly flop, and get incredible fit whilst doing so.

Who would have guessed?

I knew personally of a Swedish guy that was touring worldwide for gaming. He said he was travelling for free and the living was free. I mean, it's not totally stupid if you do live through that for that period of time but yeah, it's not exactly sustainable.

Esports didn't die, it just turned from sports to reality tv with the ever increasing popularity of twitch. Although esports events are still the most popular channels

t. bronze 5 angry he can't make it to challenger

I doubt many look at it as a long term career choice, its just fun as fuck as a teenager/young adult and you could make a very decent amount of money for that age to invest or start a business with, or go to school. At the age that most pro gamers are it really doesnt matter if they "waste" few years playing games at the top level. Also in today's world having lots of fans, followers, etc on youtube, social media, twitch, etc is almost worth money in itself, so you'd have no problem getting or keeping sponsorship after your "career" is done.

They make crazy amounts of money in a span of 3 year career, so it doesn't really matter. After that they can go back to college without ever going in any debts or get employed by game company that made game they played, go into casting or stream on twitch. Honestly I wished I was good enough at gaymes to make career out of something like this instead of wagecucking 8 hours a day.

How is that different to being a chess player? Or a taxi driver? Or even a doctor? It's all rote learning and repeating patterns. You could say that about almost everything.

The only thing that takes skill is stuff like software development and music production, because the skills are only a means to achieving something, the problems are always new.

I know multiple (Swedes too), both players and e-sports journalists


They make about what I do working as engineer

I could never do it, my response times are too low and I don't have the concentration without drugs.

I don't see why the people that are capable of doing it would ever have to retire though, it seems like as long as they play well there is no risk.

there are people making 540k annually just from subscriptions to their twitch channel, if we count donations and all of the other sponsorships/youtube/ad rev they get the most successful ones can easily net 1 mil a year

You can only go as far as a player. You start to decline before you are 25 in this industry. Not to mention the carpal tunnel shit and your overall health that should be in the gutter unless you exercise (which most don't)

carpal tunnel is a meme
Your hand eye coordination doesn't magically start declining after 25. The industry hasn't even been around long enough to see whether that is an actual concern. These guys could keep going into their 40's no problem.

>pointless career choice
name one career choice that is not pointless. You can't, everything tied to money is pointless. Welcome in a capitalist world.

And then there are people like Wysek, who flung him and his team out of CSOQ because he over slept.

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Any job that helps to benefit others, helps to express yourself creatively or helps to develop you as a person.

csgo team virtus pro is full of 35 year olds what the fuck are you talking bout? players decline because they can't be good forever and dont pratice enough not because of their age.

I was pretty hooked on League of Legends when it blew up, my friends and I played all the time. Even at the peak of my addiction to that game I never saw the appeal of watching other people play the game... maybe a quick youtube clip of a cool outplay here and there but I could never watch some skinny little Korean kids farming minions for entertainment, it's even more boring than watching baseball

>helps to express yourself creatively
>helps to develop you as a person
you mean like esport ?

>Dota 2 prizepools keep climbing
>tomorrow starts the first ever CS:GO major to be broadcasted on cable television
>esports is just a fad lmao

This

please tell me that isn't a trap

traps dont have breasts you fucking mongloid3

hes a tranny

i want to FUCK that boy

>traps dont have breasts

Traps are called traps because they pass. How fucking new are you?

Found more. Fuck I don't even care anymore if she has a dick. I'd suck the shit out of it.

i'm not going to pretend that aiming to be "pro gamer" is anything to be proud of, but fatal1ty lives well today, even though everyone dropped q3a and other games which were actually fun. So it's not like you die with your vidya of choice.

i bet he still makes loads of money from having his name on lolitech premium gamur racing hardware

Chess player's have created game theory algorithms in use by fortune500 companies to this day. Please try again.

It's different from taxi and doctor due to the amount of risk. The level of respect they receive is only going to make sense if they are upheld to some other standard that can act as a point of umbrella for them. Like, for instance, e-sports players taking to youtube and then abiding a company echo chamber when someone tries to shush a problematic person on their "watch" usually ends with the shusher being ddosed doxed and harassed for years.

Celebrity isn't about effort or skill. It's about being the one that exemplifies what the producer and publishers are trying to relay. They celebrate you. People in turn celebrate you because they really like the game.

That it should be a point of contention that you'd specialize your skill set to over an assesment of risk versus, on average, 17 year olds is ridiculous. They make good money doing what they do, but ubless it's about the game or some quality in criterion to the celebrated experience, then these people have nothing but a wage in common with doctors and most of the mechanical.

Doctor is not rote learning. Taxi might be but then why are there so many bad drivers?
Engineer is not rote learning.

League of Legends 1 v 5 is not rote learning.

League of Legends 2 v 5 is still not rote learning.

3 v 5? Rote learning.

The kids create a lot of politic when there's older folk involved. Asians in general have this going thing, where we have cool/worker/family people they have young and old and then the rest of it which pretty much leads most kids into believing that old people pass through the ether and are dressed in it and are doomed to be boring, uninteresting, detached, etc. It's their way of sussing out yellow guilt. So while there are still players like IWillDominate and other older players still doing well, they aren't headlining because the asian fans for the most part do not like seeing older people up there.

FGC is dominated by like 5 different versions of mew2king, all like 40 years old, and it can't pick up pace as an esport because of this among other things. Really their system is too much about rote memorization but that's not a genearl attitude because of the beauty and wonder that is 3s.

thats because league is boring ass fucking stale game killing itself every update

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Frustrated that you don't have a career that you enjoy and that brings in more money than your shitty 9-5 wageslave office job where you're a slave to some jew? That's cool, enjoy your "real" and "professional" career choice, let others enjoy theirs.

Explain to me how playing games is in any way creative. It's consumption.

It's creative in that although someone designed it, you aren't the designed and so finding new and credible ways around your opponents defense/offense is something of value/worth. If you are gang banging a league with your 5 overpowered friends then, yeah, it instantly becomes less creative because you lose your handle on most of the work in the split of it. Still, it can be creative. Though for the most part it isn't and people don't like to admit it. I have played the same stupid vayne, kat, xin, karma, diana, yasuo, etc for the millionth time. I still like playing the game but it sucks never getting to play real "gamers" and just a bunch of casual passer-bys on their way to work. ( Meaning kids just wasting time on a game that's popular before they become old and work all the time like their family's want them to. I want my old video game group back. At least one promising player is all I need. ;_; I haven't had one of those since I stopped playing with okusa and 5star )

Anyway, video gaming is not a career to me either, though. It's a temporary opportunity in lieu of a more status absolving career pursuit. Videogamers/streamer is literally the USA version of mangaka. It's a joke but there's...so...many...of...them...

As someone who have reversed the entire LoL game i can say the following

>game has 0 engineering
>as someone who reached challenger with that knowledge, its basic 2d geometry (game map is 15000x15000 grid) translated through 3rd dimension (time), simple stuff.
>esports is a way to earn money because of all the little kids who never could learn basic logic so they praise those that could

Got a few more technical specs to the game? 15000 objects? I'd waste time writing an analysis tool if I had a bit more to go off of.

>reverse engineered game
>game has no engineering
then you failed. if you reverse engineer something and you don't get engineering in result, you haven't put enough reversing in your reverse engineering

esports is a way to rationalize players spending a shit load of money on games
fun fact: overwhelming majority of esports players dont make a living playing esports at all
those that do actually make money, are making it from very shady sources
which for some is totally fine, but it's unacceptable to compare a field that deals with gray markets to one that is entirely legal (like people are doing in this very thread comparing esports players to doctors and shit)
but i mean, if i wanted to get involved in shady sources, I would've just started drug dealing for an actual reliable source of income with minimal output

it's kind of like the lottery in the same sense that very few win, but majority of people are just feeding money into this giant machine in hopes of winning

better than being a neet

Money from e-sports is like $50k maximum, which isn't worth it when you consider the amount of time they have to put into the game (10+ hours per day, 7 days per week).

These pro players make most of their money from sponsorships, Twitch subscriptions, ad revenue from YouTube and Twitch, as well as donations from their viewers. The ones who make the most money when you factor all of this in are people like Imaqtpie and Nightblue3.

Shady methods of gaining money through League of Legends involves Elo boosting, win trading, and account selling. The one pro player who is notorious for making money from this is a player named Apdo, who is consistently named the best player in the world. Legend has it that he bought a car and paid for all his college tuition from boosting alone.

Creative peoples make the best strategy to win their games. It's not just intense training, or mindless farming or discipline, its all of that. You can see it in any sport, creativity is an important part of what makes a good sportperson.

>It's consumption.
it's not when you train everyday with routines, diets and discipline to be the best in your sport. You don't say to pete sampras that he's consuming tennis.

As for >Videogamers/streamer
it's entertainment. It's like those guys making movies that you can watch in the theater. Its a career like any other. Maybe you don't watch streamers, i know i don't, but others do and are entertained by it. That's fine, entertainment is probably the most meaningful activity in existence. You don't read manga, that's fine. I hope you listen to music sometimes and that you're not just a sad piece of human in a puzzle with no meaning.

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