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So Sup Forums, which one will you be getting?
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whatever chip Intel can shit out of their ass to burn this meme CPU to the ground
XFR 6 core is the best bang for the buck for gaymurs.
which 8 core is best depends on how well they overclock.
buying a 4 core in 2017 is only for poorfags
Don't make us go to some shitty website, post the chart.
You mean +2% performance, +10% TDP Cannon Lake in 2018? Intel doesn't have an answer for Zen, they don't have a new arch in the works and they won't for years. They can try to jump to 10nm or 7nm soon but it won't do much for them.
The 1600X looks extremely appealing. It should be a nice upgrade from my 4690k, two extra cores, hyperthreading and XFR at 20W less TDP, DDR4, USB 3.1, NVMe, etc.
1700 and overclock as far as you can.
I'm getting the most expensive one.
>non X
>can't overclock higher than 4.2GHz
>X
>can overclock up to 4.7GHz because X are cherrypicked chips
Just an example, but I can't see the slowest part of the 8/6/4 core tier being able to overclock the same as the top dogs since then no one would fucking buy the top dogs.
this. I'm not a poorfag
Holy fuck though, how realistic is it that these will be the actual prices on launch day?
Or do you guys think this will turn out the way the RX 460, 470, and 480 launched, and how it took months for the prices to fall? I suppose it really comes down to how much of each chip is in stock.
>XFR
>single core up to 4.5GHz on 1800X
>absolutely obliterates the Broadlel-E in serial workloads
>comes uncomfortably close to a 7700k in serial workloads if they're not called SuperPi
Please let it be real.
What would happen if Intel undercut and by a ridiculous margin, prevent anyone buying a Zen, make AMD bankrupt and have the majority market share?
Sure they would. The X chips have XFR, the others don't. Not everyone overclocks.
That's called predatory pricing and is a good way to get sued.
You better be fucking telling me the true user.
I want to build myself a new desktop, but I am hoping for some new innovation from Intel in 2018.
>some new innovation from Intel in 2018.
Intel can't properly innovate, period.
>can't overclock higher than 4.2GHz
That's just playing the silicon lottery. Just now we can play it with lower binned and, more importantly, cheaper chips.
They won't drop prices yet, but I bet we'll see lots of sales and bundle deals from intel.
>was going to buy a 7700k
>Intel announces even newer chips
>Ryzen coming soon with possible huge boosts
>bought a large 4k TV instead and PS4 Pro
Dodged a bullet bros.
The most innovation that has come from Intel in x86 in the last several years has been reducing node sizes. Like I said, they don't have a new architecture in the works because they've been able to just sit on their ass and do nothing for the last decade while AMD went full retard with CMT.
all amd ryzen cpu's can be manually overclocked
the X variant have XFR technology with multiple semiconductor sensory integrated for automated overclocking depending on your demand and cooling solution
>innovation from Intel in 2018.
Your innovation is a die shrink of Skylake, enjoy your 84W TDP with 100MHz higher clocks and 1% IPC increase over Skylake.
Netting you approximately 2-3% serial performance and 8% throughput.
First of all, those chips need to be competitive.
What is this XFR stuff?
I will want to see benchmarks for that Ryzen 5 6-core with 16MB L3 for only $229 before I make a decision.
So you are telling me if I build a Ryzen build, Intel wouldn't have enough time to make me regret it?
I'd like to get the 1700, since it might be future proof for a while.
>he will buy Netburst 2.0
Enjoy your housefire.
major speakers of amd has told now that they are priced below expectations so they should hit a serious demand.
the most famous words spoken till now by raja are: if you are about to upgrade your computer, with ryzen there has never been a better time to
This is the biggest improvement since Haswell!
THANK YOU BASED INTEL
Basically it's auto-OC feature. Ryzen chips are stuffed with sensors.
Intel currently has nothing on Zen and their rumored new arch may very well be Itanium 2.0: electric boogaloo.
nigga i bet you can't wait a whole fucking year. Lastest you'll go is probably vega/volta
Pentium G4560 will offer very similar performance in games to Ryzen 3 1100 AT HALF THE PRICE. Fucking calling it now, that's why it's so suspiciously cheap.
>rumored new arch
In 2021 at soonest.
By that time the three times improved Zen core will be replaced by something else.
And Zen or whatever-based APUs will have HBM3 that would be cheaper and easier to stack aka Intel mobile market is ded.
Still nothing wrong with Sandy bridge after all these years
Gamer faggots
better get those tweezers ready to cherrypick those benchmarks.
4 unlocked cores beat 2 cores by a huge margin
You can also OC them if you won the lottery.
Get Zen? Zen does not come ever.
The wait is all you shall know...you shall wait like the rest of us...always and forever waiting.
We have waited so long....sssooo long...
We will wait forever...and alwAys...we will never stop waiting. We will rot away waiting. The wait is all we know now.
THE ENDLESS AND ETERNAL WWWAAAIIITTT....no Zen only waiting.
nigga I have been waiting since Haswell for something new from Intel. I can easily wait one more year.
There will be nothing NEW from Intel up until 2021 and even then it might be shit because Intel's R&D department has a history of making useless crap.
>1700x to 1800x $110 difference for +0.2ghz
??????????
Well Ryzen or Skylake X it is then.
Welcome to Halo products.
B I N N I N G you moron. 1800x is (almost) top-tier chip.
>Skylake X
You know how much it'll cost.
Binning maybe?
It depends on what you currently have. I have a Haswell i5 in my main system, and I don't feel like spending the extra shekels for an unlocked i5.
top binning is always expensive. For "overclocking enthusiasts" it's worth it.
Everyone else is better off just buying the 1700x
I guess the six core one would be the same price as 6800k, but that would be retarded when you could just get Ryzen for cheaper, and have the performance of 6900k
It will also have cheaper mobo.
Isn't HT thread basically 80% of a physical core these days? Remember user, this is budget tier, at 2x the price Ryzen needs to be significantly more powerful.
What I really want to know now is the price of the Am4 motherboards.
Does there exist a mobo, at the likes of Asus's x99 II-deluxe?
>Isn't HT thread basically 80% of a physical core these days?
Lol what, at best its 30%, and that's a very big 'at best'
go away. HT never was and never will be more than a 20% boost.
Buying any dual core GPU in 2017 is retarded when you can get a quadcore for $129
Not yet.
*CPU
Their new innovation is going to be reasonable prices (except on their top models which Ryzen still can't beat, those will still be $1000).
It's pretty amazing how people forget that 10 core BDW-E exists.
It costs what, 1700$ and it has 3.0ghz base clock.
At that dumb price it might as well not exist.
Hello there are fucking Xeons in that range that are cheaper.
Probably the 1600X by the looks of it, excited to upgrade my 5 year old Team Red Budget APU rig.
>95W TDP
wew
Will Ryzen 7 1700X support ECC and IOMMU??
It was too late for Xmas and too late for tax returns. Its over...the wait was too much.
Still nothing wrong with Phenom 4s,
Intel Faggot
>Will Ryzen 7 1700X support ECC and IOMMU??
Probably no, they are consumer chips.
It doesn't matter...Its too late.
>Probably no, they are consumer chips.
But AMD has a track record of having ECC support in their CPUs, right? So it's just up to the motherboard manufacturers.
And both Athlon IIs and Phenon IIs had IOMMU support.
This! I'm thinking of picking up a quad core Ryzen CPU and a cheap motherboard (preferably around $50) to pair it with.
You just have to wait till official release.
I bought the 5820k few months ago, otherwise I would have gone for the 1800x in a heartbeat.
Of course if Ryzen turns out to be an absolute beast and by some miracle manages to be 30-40% faster than this thing, I'll be tempted to sell this and upgrade to the AMD, but I doubt that's going to happen.
That's in march, right?
Heavily rumored to be the very end of February/very early March
1700 depending on if I can get a Vega card for a reasonable price too
NO RELEASE! YOU WWWAAAIIITTT FOREVER!
Nice.
>currytech
300 rupees have been deposited into your account
No rumor. The CEO of AMD literally said early March.
They said last year too...it's too late and its all over. The fight happened and Zen didn't show up.
>buys 4k tv
>buys 720p console
>feels comfy
Checked
I like the cut of your jib
I've been using the same computer for about 9 years now (core2duo) and I'm probably due an upgrade.
I've heard that the ryzen is something special, that it actually had intel worried or something. Is there any information about how fast it actually is?
Ryzen doesn't exist.
PlayStation Pro is good for 1080p60
Shill
i5-7600
The Ryzen equivalent is only marginally cheaper and the step up is not so marginally more expensive.
Then why would choose 7600, when you could have the base model of Ryzen?
so you can buy the non-XFR chip, put a high-end cooler on it and just overclock it to the specs of the more expensive chip with XFR?
>inb4 the non-XFR chips are shittier that don't OC well hence the lower cost
You always pay more for better binning and better base clocks.
Ryzen doesn't matter if it can't be bought. End of story.
Because I poo in the toilet, Rajim.
Not an argument.
...
QUADS CONFIRM RYZEN IS SHIT
ALL ABOARD
it's shit until March, at least. We will know if it stops being shit then
Will I be able to build a dirt cheap gaming PC with this or is i5 still a better choice?
If you want actual dirt cheap, G4560 + 1050 ti would be your best bet
We dunno man.
We know practically nothing about the 6 core, or 4 core chips.
Change that to an RX 470 and that's a beast of a budget build.
This but RX470 aka the actual value card.