Amerifats won the space race

>Amerifats won the space race
Oh boy i am laffin XD

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>Italy
>winning anything

Ever heard of the tortoise and the hare ?

Too bad the USSR doesn't exist anymore :*)

Can't tell if you're implying that the US was the tortoise and the USSR was the hare, or the other way around

either way its not relevant, because the USSR did everything worth doing, the moon's only relevant because it was 'o wow look they on da moon!' and the plebs were appeased

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Correction: they SAY they landed on the moon.

That moon robot looks almost steampunk, why soviets were so awesome when comes to design?

Except that Ivan didn't do all of these first.

>discovery of the Van Allen Belts
>first communications satellite
>first reconnaissance satellite
>first two week long manned mission
>first liquid hydrogen engine
>first large solid rocket motors
>first weather satellite
>first human beings to exit Earth orbit
>first successful flyby of Venus
>first closeup photos of Mars
>first landing on Mars
>first manmade object to exit the solar system
>first space station mission that was completely successful and they didn't have to abort it or the crew died

Shut the fuck up you fucking commie

OP pic isn't even the correct spacecraft (it shows a Lunokhod rover from the 70s).

Literally only 1 or 2 of those things are even relevant, the rest of it is just "muh satellites" and other shit, did you not even read the OP? Holy fuck lmao.

>Invented the internet that allows you to currently shitpost about a dead country
wew

>first woman in space
>relevant

Also...

>first comsat
>not important when that made a large part of modern telecommunications possible

> ITT: An Italian cuck is sad his country sucks so pretends he's a Ruskie

The only relevant one in this entire post is
> first manmade object to exit the solar system
and even that's debatably 'important'

>who is Tim Berners Lee
>Americans are so desperate they have to take credit for other country's inventions.

Check the news

Most of those made our modern technology and lifestyles possible in the first place.

>What is ARAPNET
>Italian "education"
Yes, all those important 20th century Italian inventions like...um fascism? Losing wars to Africans? Getting btfo by Greeks?

He created the WWW protocols not the internet.

WWW ≠ Internet

>we took a Russian invention and strapped transmission equipment on it
Ah yes, what a fantastically relevant contribution to the modern world. The Russians were never capable of doing that.

>first comsat

Umm even Sputnik could do that to an extremely basic extent.

>first woman
Honestly important because they are physically affected differently in Space.

Proofs?

Well USSR/Russia sucks so much that it makes sense they were lining up to go into space.

Oh I'm sorry. For all this time I'd thought Arpanet was nothing more than a shitty computer network. I had no idea it was capable of transferring pictures, videos, music and interactive web pages which allowed sites like Sup Forums and practically every website there is now to exist. Funny you don't hear about the American engineers from the 1970s sharing their funny meme images and cat videos on Arpanet with each other. They were probably doing it so much.

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SCORE was the first comsat launched December 18, 1958.

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And Telstar was the first operational comsat launched July 10, 1962. The Soviets didn't have one for another two years after that and then it was mostly just for military use.

Does Italy have a space program?

Anyways the point wasn't who was first to accomplish those things; the point was who was ABLE to do them at all.

All throughout the Space Race the Americans and the Soviets went back and forth, with the Soviets usually in the lead. One nation developed a new technology, then the other tried to demonstrate they could do it too.

The Space Race concluded with the lunar landing because the Soviets weren't able to reciprocate. The back and forth ended as the Soviets did not have the knowledge or the technology to put a person on the moon, despite trying and failing multiple times.

The Apollo program also led to the personal computer revolution of the 70s-80s.

Also I mean .

We did most of the more valuable scientific space firsts instead of gimmick missions like putting a female in space and putting three dudes in space in a hacked-up Vostok capsule.

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>We all benefit from things invented by NASA
>You all bash them over a few things they didn't get at first.

US didn't win the space race because of getting to the moon, and they didn't lose it because the Soviets did a bunch of other stuff. We won it because the USSR couldn't keep up with our spending on anything. We had more money to throw at NASA post moon landing while the Soviets were nearly bust. The ONLY claim that Russian space industry has now days is that it is actually doing space travel as opposed to NASA which has become much more research focused.

:^)

We're a major contributor to the ESA but no.
Also as has been stated before in the OP landing in the moon is the only thing the Americans accomplished and still make a big deal over today regardless of the fact that it doesn't really mean shit and got btfo by Russians in every other field of the space race.

>The ONLY claim that Russian space industry has now days is that it is actually doing space travel as opposed to NASA which has become much more research focused.

>getting back photos of Pluto
>versus delivering a box of wrenches to the ISS
Uh...

Fine, let me correct myself.
"Manned space travel"

>Also as has been stated before in the OP landing in the moon is the only thing the Americans accomplished and still make a big deal over today regardless of the fact that it doesn't really mean shit

Hadn't you known how much technology we use today came out of the race to the Moon?

>Backpedaling after being proven wrong
wew
>I'd thought Arpanet was nothing more than a shitty computer network.
ARPANET was literally the groundwork for everything that came afterwords, your computer still inputs essential protocols developed almost 50 years ago.

This is why nobody likes Italians

Also we didn't lose 100+ people from rockets exploding on the pad because we weren't stupid enough to work on them without draining the propellants first. ;)

This. They're 100x more smug than the French, even though Italy is a third world shithole. Lel

I like them generally but they get so emotional sometimes.

>being proved wrong
Oh really? I'm pretty sure I just blew you the fuck out. On an English invention. Oh no wait sorry, I forgot we were talking on Arpanet.

You didn't know that an American invented the liquid fueled rocket? ;)

>and got btfo by Russians in every other field of the space race
They didn't though. They lost space probes by the dozens and have never successfully sent a probe to anything except Venus and the Moon.

>I just blew you the fuck out
Sure buddy, whatever helps you sleep at night

>giving up already
Thank God the Soviets saved you in WW2 as well. Amerifats can't even defend themselves on an anonymous image board.

>Honestly important because they are physically affected differently in Space.

It was mostly a gimmick thing. To this day the Russians have hardly sent any women in space. More American and European women have actually traveled in a Soyuz than Russian women.

ITT: ASSMAD EUROKEKS

It's just a butthurt Shitalian. Don't pay him any attention.

>he said in the thread where his countrymen were getting anally ravished for being called out on things they never did

I think actually the first manmade object to reach space (suborbital) was one of the sounding rockets launched on a V-2 in the late 40s.

correction: gold foil
gold reflects 100% of IR waves which would melt the astronauts inside alive

also foil because it was cheaper

Keep going, not even phased.
Though you shouldn't be bringing up other countries war record if I were you lad.

Ivan bitter as always

Why hasn't there been another moon expedition?

Why? Worried I'll bring up the fact that the US has never won a foreign conflict on it's own? Or the fact that you got rekt by south east Asian rice farmers? Or Afghani goat shepherd's? Or Somalis?

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Hey now Hey now. Lets not forget the first country to have a BLACK president. THE US of A. So back off Ireland.

Feminism

Yet we still beat Italy, so that makes you worse than goatfarmers, Somali's and rice farmers

>implying either russians or americans did any of this

It was all abducted german scientist on both sides.

i think he was referring to the fact that italy has the most embarrassing military history of the 20th century.

>Why? Worried I'll bring up the fact that the US has never won a foreign conflict on it's own?
Didn't we beat up Mexico and Spain? Also the victory over Japan was about 90% our doing.

The War of 1812, while nowadays usually considered a stalemate, back in the 19th century was always considered to have been a US win.

What the fuck is ESA

Not really since 90% of the US space program was designed and built by native-born Americans. The Soviet program essentially 100%.

Even then, Werner Von Braun would never have been anything except that an American invented the liquid fueled rocket first and the Soviets had rocketry programs in place prior to WWII.

Europoor space agency
Only major accomplishment is landing on a comet.
Considered a huge achievement on par with the moonlandings by EU nationalists when it's probe-tier at best.

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Von Braun basically built the entire US space program with his team and its been at a relative standstill since he died.

>we beat up Mexico and Spain
What an achievement.

>the victory over Japan was about 90% our doing.
Yeah, you didn't just get carried by Australia everywhere and you didn't drop two atomic bombs on them to force them to surrender.

>The War of 1812, while nowadays usually considered a stalemate, back in the 19th century was always considered to have been a US win
Literally got their own white house burnt to the ground and got fucked out of Canada and Americans are still in such denial over it 200 years later they still can't accept they lost. You can't make this up!

the soviets were pretty good at firsts because human lives were totally expendable.

>Only major accomplishment is landing on a comet

You're referring to the Giotto probe sent to Halley's Comet in 86? That actually was just a flyby and the camera on the probe failed so they didn't get back any closeup photos.

NASA unfortunately couldn't send a probe there due to lack of funds.

>Yeah, you didn't just get carried by Australia everywhere
Italian ""Education""

Irony.

what's set off this gabagool? did someone make fun of italian "cuisine" again?

>What an achievement
Your claim was "America has never singlehandedly defeated anyone." I proved you wrong. QED. Also didn't Italy lose a war to a couple of niggers with spears?
>Yeah, you didn't just get carried by Australia everywhere
I seem to remember they almost got invaded by Japan and we had to bail them out.
>Literally got their own white house burnt to the ground and got fucked out of Canada and Americans are still in such denial over it 200 years later they still can't accept they lost. You can't make this up!
The basic aim of the war was to stop British impressment of American sailors which was accomplished, also we lost no territory and made no concessions to London, plus they sold us the Red River Basin which proved a big whoopsie because it was full of iron ore.

Also the European states finally took the US seriously as a nation after 1815.

>Italian criticizing ANYONES military record
Bud, I'm not even going to humor you. It's too easy of a target. It's funny how buttblasted you are over some shitty b8 though

How the hell did slavs beat America in so many ways when they were poorer and less developed the entire cold war?

Don't give me that German scientist abduction meme

>Shitposting
>IN SPAAACE OOOOH
We would've gotten every single tick off if there weren't so many autistic Italian diaspora taking up immigration quotas.

That is literally it though.

>Only major accomplishment is landing on a comet.
That's actually quite the mathematical feat, calculating the point a probe will land on a comet 10 years from launch. An early mistake could've taken the whole 10 years to manifest itself, and it did cause it landed in shadow so it couldn't get power. Manned missions to the moon take only like 3 days pretty sure.

USA won the propaganda war. That mean they win in everything.

Wasted huge amount of resources on space program that was only able to keep being funded because of Oil anyway.

And we launched probes to all of the outer planets which take 10+ years. Your point?

>I proved you wrong
Not really, both of those wars you fought right next to your own country against weak crumbling states that could barely fight back.
>saved Australia
Lmao
>The basic aim of the war was to stop British impressment of American sailors which was accomplished
Wrong. It was to take Canadian land, that excuse was made up after you lost the war that is still taught today in American "educational" centres.
>Also the European states finally took the US seriously as a nation after 1815.
Yeah sure they did.

>that excuse was made up after you lost the war
Kek, this delusion

The Soviets just got lucky with some of the early space missions because they had only one rocket (R-7) to debug while we had 5-6 different rocket families. Also the R-7 was bigger than our birds because they couldn't miniaturize nuclear warheads as much as we were able to.

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"The War of 1812 was a military conflict that lasted from June 18, 1812 to February 18, 1815, fought between the United States of America and the United Kingdom, its North American colonies, and its North American Indian allies. Historians in the United States and Canada see it as a war in its own right, but Europeans often see it as a minor theatre of the Napoleonic Wars. By the war's end in early 1815 the key issues had been resolved and peace came with no boundary changes.

The United States declared war for several reasons, including trade restrictions brought about by the British war with France, the impressment of as many as 10,000 American merchant sailors into the Royal Navy,[5] British support for Native American tribes fighting American settlers on the frontier, outrage over insults to national honor during the Chesapeake–Leopard Affair, and American interest in annexing British territory.[6] The primary British war goal was to defend their North American colonies; they also hoped to set up a neutral Indian buffer state in the Midwest that would impede American expansion in the Old Northwest and to minimize American trade with Napoleonic France, which Britain was blockading."

Snipping off pieces of Canada was merely a side quest in a war that had multiple causes. Besides, since Britain ceded the (iron-rich) Red River Basin, we actually did succeed in that goal.

It physically landed on the comet. The probes that get sent to gas giants are either doing fly bys or some atmospheric test by 'crashing' them in.

Finish line.

Seriously though, do Americans think first man on the moon is a more important achievement than first man in space, first robot on the moon, first space station and first satellite? Really think about it for a moment and whether or not you've been brainwashed with propaganda since birth

Irony.

There's no solid surface on those planets to land on.

I don't so when literally every relevant historian agrees.

Stay upset

that's why I put 'crashing' in quotes

Do you actually realize how much technical challenge was involved in getting a man onto the Moon? It outstripped the Soviets' technological abilities to the point where their attempt at it completely fell apart.

Developing the first and only rocket to put people past low earth orbit is a pretty big deal yes.

The first nuclear reactor.

>Yeah sure they did

That's why we immediately thereafter declared the Monroe Doctrine which barred Europeans from further New World adventures. After 1815, the US meant business.