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First for the death of Windows and corporate anti-freedom crapware!
Lucas Cox
I needed to make some changes to the OP pasta (taking inspiration from the old ones) because the new ones seemed to be an incomprehensive mess, especially for newfags.
Also, ***don't use code tags***. They don't serve any purpose, yet they take up character count and make creating new threads a pain in the ass.
Caleb King
First for SMGL >amirevelvant?
Jaxson Garcia
They do serve a purpose, and that's visually distinguishing commands from plaintext. If it bothers you so much, either a) leave making threads to other people, b) get over it, c) write a script to automate it, d) prepare an OP post as a text file that you can copy and paste.
Jason Perry
what are some games that run really well on wine? not looking for stuff to even play, just looking for a few games that are stable
Jack Gutierrez
>Yellow >Red >Star >Hammer Please no.
Luis Baker
Nobody hears your screams.
Jeremiah Harris
The tags are really uncomfy for copy pasting.
Also first for source mage.
Adam Edwards
The fuck? shell utilities; today: man pg
Benjamin Jones
this is what comes out when ed and more are making love to each other
Ethan Williams
Magic is always relevant.
Is there any way to make sed print something without given input? This is what I've got so far, seaching for a way to get rid of the echo.
$ echo | sed 'cHello world!' Hello world!
Caleb Davis
Second.
Leo Myers
Second.
Levi Wood
$ sed 'cHello, world!'
Asher Hernandez
You do understand your pasta put less help and is more ignored right? Seriously, you can't explain all ways of installing GNU/Linux to new friends in just five lines but you can use that space to put really good links.
Thinking about switching to either Fedora, Hydrogen, or ElementaryOS.
Only reason I might not use Fedora is because I'm more used to debian based systems
Michael Barnes
Solus
Ethan Allen
Source Mage
Easton Morris
What's wrong with linux? Why don't the majority of people use it?
Jordan Martinez
Most computers come with windows preinstalled.
Caleb Taylor
kek
Jose Ortiz
Not enough publicity.
Cameron Jackson
-1 byte: $ sed q
Mason Kelly
GNU/Linux*
Juan Gutierrez
GNU is not a kernel
Jeremiah Walker
They actually do, at least for their servers, microcomputers and embedded systems. Why not on the desktop? see: It's just as easy to get used to Ubuntu as to Windows.
Ryder Sanders
i'm pretty sure the majority of computers on this planet runs linux
Matthew Jones
GNU is two kernels.
Xavier Carter
>GNU is two kernels. because it's broken?
Caleb Long
>wake up >computer feels laggy >a Chromium ID is using up 61% of Mem according to htop, putting me at 3.75 GB of ram in use of 4GB
what the
I probably should've better noted what it was, but that was weird.
Xavier Nguyen
>Chromium uninstall now, botnet
Jace Peterson
I know is the previous thread but lol'd hard
Brandon Russell
Linux tries to use as much memory as possible and frees memory when needed. When you have 4GB, 60-80% usage is pretty normal.
Jaxson Brooks
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
Ian Morales
U P V O T E D
David Russell
From last thread:
Have an old Acer aspire one, installed arch and a bunch of games (supertux, Bomberman, etc) for my nephew.
Works great, except every time the power cord is plugged/unplugged, there's a fuck loud beep.
How do I disable said beep? Pcspkr and snd_sp modules are both not loaded and blacklisted. Using alsamixer I can reduce the volume but not eliminate it.
Dominic Price
I think those kind of sounds are more hardware related. Maybe there's a setting in the bios?
Jaxson Sanchez
Really? Because I'm usually at no more than 2.20 gigs when I'm actively using it.
It was just weird that it was a single Chromium process -- not even a main process, which I expected to crash/shutdown the browser.
Nathan Thompson
I second the BIOS.
Asher Bennett
Thanks for replying!
Nothing in the BIOS related to sound, only boot and security options. Doesn't make the sound during grub or when it ran Windows 7/8
You're right, but I don't think it matters much. The OP pasta has never contained code tags and we were just fine. It was either include code tags or exclude those software and news links.
The new pasta really was a mess. I mean >Themes, artwork, and more >Desktop environments and window managers >Computers preloaded with GNU/Linux all needless >Learn the command line by playing: mprat.org/Terminus/ seriously? It tries to be really patronizing but at the same time the formatting is a mess, the info at the beginning is not the first thing newfriends should see and it really looks confusing and unreadable, even to me. You need to ease them into the matter at hand. The old OP pastas were much better at that.
I tried my best to respect both the old and the new pasta.
So you don't think we should have OP pasta at all? It's not all just for newfriends, those are resources we deem valuable to all anons who post here. The first important thing thing a newfriend should see is >Before asking for help, please check our list of resources[*]. and glance at the stuff bellow * so they won't bug us with stupid questions and problems they could solve themselves. Then the part about choosing and installing their first distro. (the gentoo wiki article is pretty good) They will find a use for the rest of the info some other time perhaps. No one expects a newfriend to digest all that info when they first visit the thread.
Indeed.
Lincoln Ward
I agree with the disclaimer, all people should look in the appropriate place for help before asking, but don't remove the links, they are do more good than you know.
The installgentoo guide is good but still personal opinions, the distrowatch link on the other hand is a search engine and is good at that.
No.
Luke Kelly
Okay.
Those seem to be quite useful to be completely honest. I don't think it hurts to have those.
Ian Lopez
Okay.
Those seem to be quite useful to be completely honest. I don't think it hurts to have those.
Colton Bailey
>man gaze >-q disable human style output. why is source mage so based
Ryan Bell
fucking hiroshimoot
Isaiah Howard
Why don't you make an installation guide? So you can replace that part in the OP instead of using the space. Just give it more attention like you do with the friendly disclaimer as for people actually paying attention.
Logan Murphy
What is the best and most reliable distro to use on multiple office computers?
An OS where I can leave the computers on 24/7 and have my accountant from another state SSH into them whenever she needs to? And where updates aren't going to screw everything up?
Thomas Stewart
Add the difference in 32 and 64 bits, how to create a live usb (because some new friends can't even into that), how to enable usb booting in the BIOS, and what you should do to dualboot.
What seems retarded to us is like brainfuck for new friends.
Xavier Wilson
win 7
Nathan Phillips
CentOS or Slackware? This is a pretty good question, what can defeat those?
Christian Rivera
whats those coding environments called? looking for a lightweight one, only have an atom with 1gb.
Julian Barnes
I think this wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux will set them down the right path. What kinda installation guide do you have in mind? Most distros have installation guides, there are also youtube videos on how to install the most popular stuff.
To quote Morpheus: >I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it. That is kinda the point of the OP pasta. To provide all those links and basic info just so people know where to start.
There's no need to spoonfeed people beyond the point where they can do it themselves.
Ayden Long
comparing debian to lubuntu, can lubuntu really be called lightweight if debian would use less resources bar the de?
Joseph Morales
>whats those coding environments called either looking for an IDE, or a code editor
IDE's are more bloated, but provide tons of useful functionality for large projects, especially when working on a team
Code editors are more lightweight and usually only have syntax highlighting and code auto-complete, but sometimes allow you to install extensions
I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this, but I really like VS Code. It's a fairly lightweight code editor with a huge marketplace of extensions to choose from, so you only have the extensions that are useful to you
Sublime is actually pretty nice too, and probably a lot smaller than VS Code, since Microsoft is notorious for making needlessly bloating and complicating a program that should be small and simple.
Wyatt Foster
Can you put in the installgentoo guide? Then just use asterisks to make people notice.
Do you remember how some words and concepts were alien to you before installing your first distro? There was this article talking about all those different words and what they meant and I figure how someone outside might feel.
John Jones
>You do understand your pasta put less help and is more ignored right? I can imagine it's not very helpful to illiterate faggots like you. Why don't you take the time you spend shitposting to learn proper english.
Hi /fglt/, can I make liunx accent compositing work like it does in Windows? In Windows you press ` and e, and you get è, ' + e = é, ^ + e etc. I'm using Cinnamon in case the DE matters.
Leo Moore
>put win7 in the installgentoo guide Huh?
Cameron Lopez
there are loads. some of my personal favorites I've had work with minimal effort: Civ IV, Panzer General II, Half-Life/Portal, GTA III/VC/SA, Caesar/Pharaoh/Zeus, Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Anno 1602/1503/1701/1404, Postal 2, Roller Coaster Tycoon 1/2, Baldur's Gate/Icewind Dale/Planescape:Torment, Fallout (old and new), Arcanum, probably missing some but that's what comes to mind. (inb4 all old games) appdb.winehq.org/
Zachary Turner
Meant
Matthew Cox
I'm sure most people that come to this board at least know how to install win7, not to mention pirate and get a cracked version of it.
Angel White
unauthorized copying*
Oliver Perez
oh i see nvm
Sebastian Taylor
We are talking of something already in the OP. And OP want it there.
Jason Smith
Yes. The phrase you're looking for is Compose key.
There are multiple way you can get this key.
Some desktop environments like Gnome have it by default but I forgot the combination, but since Cinnamon is entirely gnome3 based I assume it would be the same.
I'm the Slackware fag but I'd have to agree that CentOS might be an equally good/better choice if you've never used Slackware before. On the other hand, I have never had an update screw up my system, or cause any kind of problem that wasn't easily reversed in 2 minutes.
For deploying on multiple computers, perhaps look at openSUSE? YaST supposedly has a thing where you can make a config file for installations and then automatically deploy identical systems on multiple computers, and you can also perform system admin/maintenance tasks through a web interface, which would make it easier to simultaneously manage multiple installations at once. I get the feeling that SUSE is reliable and stable.
Isn't CentOS shipped with anaconda? The installer that can do just that?
SELinux confirmed to be in hands of the NSA.
Grayson Brown
no idea. I only ever used CentOS on VPSes where it was already deployed.
In that case, between those three, Slackware is the only one that "technically" can't do that, except it's not a difficult or complicated process to strip out all the packages you don't want out of the package tree, add any packages you want into the package tree, and then just run a "full install"
Hunter Morgan
SELinux was initially developed by "Le Three Letter Acronym Agency" for the US Department of Defense.
Now it's co-developed by RedHat with the help forementioned three letter acronym agency
Landon Parker
>it's co-developed by RedHat with the help forementioned three letter acronym agency That just make it scarier desu,
Andrew Wilson
Well that (and the fact that SELinux maintenance is rather complicated, way more complicated than your average desktop/workstation/server will probably need) is the reason pretty much only Fedora-based (Fedora is owned by RedHat) distributions use it.
Despite the fact that due to SELinux origins and the obvious implications of it, it was probably audited more times than any other part of the linux ecosystem.
Ubuntu and distributions derived from it (save for Mint since they're fucking retarded) use AppArmor (developed by Canonical) Gentoo Hardened uses GRsecurity patches.
It's a shame that the grsec people no longer provide stable patches to non-paying customers. Compared to competition it was mindboggingly easy to learn and use effectively.
Xavier Reed
>linux ecosystem literally what
Josiah Jackson
All that case smells like bullshit, grsec distributed to private companies after other private companies infringed the license? Shady.
*GNU ecosystem.
Luke White
>company tries to take over the linux system, now top kernel contributer >shipps lots of programs, shills them to distros, makes other programs depending on it >turns out the company is best friend with the nsa welcome to the botnet
Nathan Rivera
Hey guys 3 questions
Ubuntu or Arch (for newbie) Can you duel boot with windows 10(i just want to use it for gayman)
Also what was that firefrox add on that was better than adblock that everyone recommended? Like Uorigin or something?
Joseph Ortiz
good thing we have BSD to fall back to if things do begin to go south.
>All that case smells like bullshit, grsec distributed to private companies after other private companies infringed the license? Shady. Grsec distributed patches openly (as in, go on their website, download stable branch and patch the kernel) and private companies used them and slapped grsecurity logos all over the embedded products (without their knowledge or approval) they later sold without any contribution to the company behind grsecurity.
A solid case of the eternal problem of monetizing GPL software really. Grsec got mad and decided to redhatize their distribution model (as well as trademarked their name and logo) and started offering the patches in a manner similar to SaaS only to paying customers. Can't blame them honestly.
The unstable/testing branch is still publicly distributed.
Gavin White
>Arch (for newbie) Don't be retarded, Ubuntu LTS.
uBlock Origin.
Logan Wright
Already at v0.9, sound is working too now! Give them 3-4 years. There aren't much developers and it isn't a high priority project, but - there's hope!
Josiah Perez
Thanks.
Chase Morgan
does a graphics card support virtualization?
Leo Martinez
Any reason to use sudo over su -c ?
Alexander Myers
No, not yet. Intel is working on a technology that would allow it, but it's not ready yet.
